RevolutionaryRebel Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 The Grand Shibe messaged me saying COMECON told me to do this. And I presume you have screenshots of this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulthran Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Unfortunately no. The message was deleted for some reason and none of the recipients could find it. As it happened the dispora occurred while I had a bunch of people over so I couldn't really do anything other be annoyed until the next day when the message was gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevolutionaryRebel Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 (edited) Hmm. As things stand, unless the message blatantly encouraged joining comecon and given the fact nobody bothered to double-check these sorts of things, I find the idea of collusion to be unlikely. If said nation deleted, they probably wouldn't have cared about implicating an innocent party, and judging from what I've seen thus far, you two micros have been suspicious of each other previously. None of the alliances involved have done enough to encourage me to support them over anyone else involved... though as the matter is claimed to have been 'resolved', this doesn't really matter. It is still useful to clear up the amount of uncertainty over what exactly has been going down in micro-land. Edited January 25, 2014 by RevolutionaryRebel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunzzz Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 No wonder Sparta dropped you guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz Ferdinand Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 Unfortunately no. The message was deleted for some reason and none of the recipients could find it. As it happened the dispora occurred while I had a bunch of people over so I couldn't really do anything other be annoyed until the next day when the message was gone. It is impossible for a message like that to be deleted unless every single recipient deleted it (unlikely due to the likelihood of inactive rulers) or it was never sent at all. Next time, if something like this happens, get a hold of a hard copy and save it so that you would be able to keep it as evidence for a later time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulthran Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 I don't know what happened but none of us could find it afterwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevolutionaryRebel Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 If you're going to declare war, declare it publicly. Provide your casus beli in the process. Don't wait for an informal post in the wrong place before admitting to declaring war (this should have been raised in Alliance Announcements). 'Losing' valuable information like that is considered tantamount to an absence of evidence by observers, and while you may get away with informal DoWs as a tiny micro, it is incredibly poor form. I would prefer not be forced to demonstrate how much CB-less war decs suck for the victim, much less jumping like this without thinking, or a formal declaration. Seeing ICoN involed is disappointing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulthran Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Unfortunately we are, as you say, micros and I hadn't really known the process for declaring war before now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevolutionaryRebel Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Unfortunately we are, as you say, micros and I hadn't really known the process for declaring war before now. It happens every so often. To be honest, I wouldn't really recommend trying to start an alliance without previous experience in this game, based on the incredibly low success rate. It's too easy to be duped/manipulated by less scrupulous individuals, of fail to understand the many concepts in the game that pose barriers to new alliances (such as tech/xp raiding and inter-alliance warfare). That said, it IS possible, but you have to have both a little bit of luck, patience and the right temperament. Leading a micro full of new nations is a challenge even with some experience, as can probably be seen in the alliances that collapsed last year (PNU springs to mind). My main pieces of advice would be to always look for second opinions and never let you be confined by the opinions and prejudices of older leaders. You will need to listen and learn from more experienced players in order to succeed, but you should try and do so without letting them force you down any particular political path. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulthran Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Thank you for your advice. I have been doing my best to get everything done properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOLO SWAG Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 Thank you for your advice. I have been doing my best to get everything done properly. You're doing surprisingly well for a doomed alliance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulthran Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 Doomed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayBooker Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Im confused.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Im confused....The jaybooker spotted in its natural state Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulthran Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Im confused.... That makes two of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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