Emperor Nicholas II Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 (edited) I don't really do announcements i like being behind the scenes but i guess being an Emperor i must put up with these formalities so here it goes... Treaty is to end 72 hour period to renegotiate before it is considered null but that is not in my alliances best interests and i'm not sure SWF would not care much anyway. SWF was a different alliance when we signed it was a much smaller one like myself and with no contact with them (since my contact up and left for another alliance) time to bring in the New Year with one Less Treaty to worry about. The St. Petersburg - Volgograd Pact Article 3: ValidityThe Non-Aggression Pact is valid from the date of its formal signing till 31st December 2009 where a 72 grace period is given for both sides to renegotiate the pact if both sides feel it is not serving them in their best interests or the pact can simply be discarded during the grace period if they feel they no longer need it. The door is always left open to a fellow countryman so if seeking early dismissal of the pact it can be can called with a 75% majority of that signatories Government, a 48 hour grace period is given in that circumstance to deal with the change. I guess this is the part where i wish SWF luck in the future, not like they need is they are 6 times my size i'm the one needing luck I do wish them a Happy New Year as the Year of the Bear is upon us! Russians all around the world will rejoice Signed : Nicholas II - Emperor and Autocrat of all the Russias, King of Poland, Grand Duke of Finland, Governor of Alaska Yes the man with the many titles. And a Shiny Crown for each one. Edited December 31, 2009 by Emperor Nicholas II Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage3 Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 (edited) First! Just wanted to be first for once in replying, see what the big deal was. Edited December 31, 2009 by Rampage3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Wally Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Hope your going well Nich, i'll have to drop over your way again soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakamitai Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Classy. Good luck to both parties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantastico Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Classy. Good luck to both parties. This is not a friendly announcement. I want my money back. As for classy and not to be a Sal Paradise, can you translate this into English: Treaty is to end 72 hour period to renegotiate before it is considered null but that is not in my alliances best interests and i'm not sure they would care much anyway. Sounds like a unilateral rewriting and cancellation of a treaty to me. But it's cool I guess since they don't care much anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groucho Marx Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Sounds like a lot of effort was made to keep contact with SWF. Also signing just because you know one guy there is never a good idea and generally a waste of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Nicholas II Posted December 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Sounds like a unilateral rewriting and cancellation of a treaty to me. But it's cool I guess since they don't care much anyway. If it was cancellation i would be saying 48 hours not 72 i am just letting it run its course and i doubt that SWF would have announce its demise so i saved them the trouble, simple. -Nicholas II Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantastico Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 If it was cancellation i would be saying 48 hours not 72 i am just letting it run its course and i doubt that SWF would have announce its demise so i saved them the trouble, simple.-Nicholas II Good enough for me. I just saw your sig and my Spidey senses went off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Nicholas II Posted December 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 (edited) Sounds like a lot of effort was made to keep contact with SWF. Also signing just because you know one guy there is never a good idea and generally a waste of time. Well i only signed one with SWF as i signed one with SU and the leader at the time Veneke had this swell guy convince me into it and we maintained good communication for a few months and then vanished and when SWF never bothered to dispatch another Representative it didn't bother me to much, i did not have the man power in which to have Foreign Representatives with all Alliances we talked with so i let that slide. Good day to you Marx. -Nicholas II Edited December 31, 2009 by Emperor Nicholas II Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Gutenhagen Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Russia, why has you stop send North Korea oil and aids? Now we has to rely on China, and they keep put lead in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantastico Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Russia, why has you stop send North Korea oil and aids? Now we has to rely on China, and they keep put lead in it. I'm going to appeal to my alliance to DoW on you based on these blatant recruitment messages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Maximus Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Its a shame that you fell away from your allies. Best of luck. I'm going to appeal to my alliance to DoW on you based on these blatant recruitment messages. Wait... what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantastico Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 (edited) Wait... what? My apologies, I went off topic. My reply was to Kaiser Funnyman. edit: closing quote tag fell down my shirt Edited December 31, 2009 by Fantastico Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Nicholas II Posted December 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 (edited) Russia, why has you stop send North Korea oil and aids? Now we has to rely on China, and they keep put lead in it. There is a North Korea!? I never saw this coming Last i heard it was part of Japan following my Nations failure in the Russo-Japan War. Our Oil Advancement Program only Supplies to the Canadian and German Industries along with the Soviet Union though their need is not as great. Edited December 31, 2009 by Emperor Nicholas II Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groucho Marx Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 (edited) Well i only signed one with SWF as i signed one with SU and the leader at the time Veneke had this swell guy convince me into it and we maintained good communication for a few months and then vanished and when SWF never bothered to dispatch another Representative it didn't bother me to much, i did not have the man power in which to have Foreign Representatives with all Alliances we talked with so i let that slide.Good day to you Marx. -Nicholas II But you didn't make any effort to send a representative of your own? Like, yourself for instance? Edited December 31, 2009 by Emperor Marx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Xander the Only Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 But you didn't make any effort to send a representative of your own? Like, yourself for instance? He's the mighty Emperor of Russia; I doubt he has time for such trivial tasks like relations with allies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groucho Marx Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 (edited) He's the mighty Emperor of Russia; I doubt he has time for such trivial tasks like relations with allies. I suppose. Though true to being an Emperor of Russia, he's overextending his reach diplomatically which undoubtedly played a part in no longer staying in contact with allies but instead trying to make too many friends as quickly as they could. A common diplomatic blunder, but easily remedied by not over deploying one's diplomatic staff but instead focusing on allies and real close, but non-treatied alliances. Edited December 31, 2009 by Emperor Marx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Nicholas II Posted December 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 I suppose. Though true to being an Emperor of Russia, he's overextending his reach diplomatically which undoubtedly played a part in no longer staying in contact with allies but instead trying to make too many friends as quickly as they could. A common diplomatic blunder, but easily remedied by not over deploying one's diplomatic staff but instead focusing on allies and real close, but non-treatied alliances. I have 2 Allies, and i was not allied to SWF it was nothing more than a NAP not really relevant in this world but was signed for the reason that we could, they did not seek to upgrade it and neither did I. We are not seeking many friends and only to work with a select group of individuals who share the same ideals as us, and the German and Canadian Alliances both have those ideals. And as i said before i did not have the member capacity to send people off to all alliances we had contact with, SWF has 6 times the membership base of us and there by should have countless Diplomats ready to send to alliances, they did not and i was not gonna waste my time requesting one. I made relations with 5 Alliances which 2 ODP's signed a MDP Pact (void due to TBH disbandment) and 2 NAPs, (one which upgraded to PIAT and the other well you can see for yourself) And to Mr Xander i only set myself up as a Diplomat to alliances i have excellent relations with and only 2 Alliances in which i have established Embassies there with myself present and active on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groucho Marx Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 I have 2 Allies, and i was not allied to SWF it was nothing more than a NAP not really relevant in this world but was signed for the reason that we could, they did not seek to upgrade it and neither did I. We are not seeking many friends and only to work with a select group of individuals who share the same ideals as us, and the German and Canadian Alliances both have those ideals.And as i said before i did not have the member capacity to send people off to all alliances we had contact with, SWF has 6 times the membership base of us and there by should have countless Diplomats ready to send to alliances, they did not and i was not gonna waste my time requesting one. I made relations with 5 Alliances which 2 ODP's signed a MDP Pact (void due to TBH disbandment) and 2 NAPs, (one which upgraded to PIAT and the other well you can see for yourself) And to Mr Xander i only set myself up as a Diplomat to alliances i have excellent relations with and only 2 Alliances in which i have established Embassies there with myself present and active on. Well there's your problem; you signed a treaty just because you could. I understand this may be difficult to comprehend but just because you can sign a treaty doesn't mean that you should. And obviously the NAP meant something to you since you signed it in the first place, and to SWF. So by saying now you didn't value the treaty you not only insult SWF for treatying you in the first place, but you show us just much you value your treaties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Nicholas II Posted December 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Well there's your problem; you signed a treaty just because you could. I understand this may be difficult to comprehend but just because you can sign a treaty doesn't mean that you should. And obviously the NAP meant something to you since you signed it in the first place, and to SWF. So by saying now you didn't value the treaty you not only insult SWF for treatying you in the first place, but you show us just much you value your treaties. And there haven't been hundreds of Alliances that have done that? And still no, both sides really did not care regarding the Treaty it was just a signal that Russian Based Alliances are willing to work together nothing more nothing less It showed my Willingness to work with a Socialist Alliance who in a worser time may have plotted against me and vice versa we both saw that Russians fighting amongst ourselves was not good, (my stance on Socialist and Communists based alliances on Russia was rather hardline but since soften due to this Treaty which is a postive thing i have SWF to thank for), the treaty was thrown our way, we signed simple. Please do not imply something that is not there i know what i said so do not take it out of context. I have no ill feelings with SWF over the lack of communication we had in the last part of the year but 2010 is a new year and in my Official Estate in New Zealand we bring the New Year already and a new year of Diplomacy for TRE and SWF. As i said Earlier NAPs aren't really worth signing in this world. -Nicholas II So which part are you gonna pick apart now? I said what i said, no hidden agenda, this is why i dislike Announcements you say one thing someone thinks another, i'm sure you have better things to do then this. Wishing to debate further with myself feel free to send me a PM i will not be replying here further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneLOL Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 COOL STORY, BRO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groucho Marx Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 And there haven't been hundreds of Alliances that have done that? And still no, both sides really did not care regarding the Treaty it was just a signal that Russian Based Alliances are willing to work together nothing more nothing less It showed my Willingness to work with a Socialist Alliance who in a worser time may have plotted against me and vice versa we both saw that Russians fighting amongst ourselves was not good, (my stance on Socialist and Communists based alliances on Russia was rather hardline but since soften due to this Treaty which is a postive thing i have SWF to thank for), the treaty was thrown our way, we signed simple. Please do not imply something that is not there i know what i said so do not take it out of context.I have no ill feelings with SWF over the lack of communication we had in the last part of the year but 2010 is a new year and in my Official Estate in New Zealand we bring the New Year already and a new year of Diplomacy for TRE and SWF. As i said Earlier NAPs aren't really worth signing in this world. -Nicholas II So which part are you gonna pick apart now? I said what i said, no hidden agenda, this is why i dislike Announcements you say one thing someone thinks another, i'm sure you have better things to do then this. Wishing to debate further with myself feel free to send me a PM i will not be replying here further. So since hundreds of alliances do it that makes it okay for you? I don't even know what you're talking about in the second bold, paranoia I guess. I know what you said too, and you leave it open to be taken out of context. In fact that entire second set of bold I placed in the above quote just highlights that which takes me to this point; If NAPs aren't worth signing then why did you feel the need to sign one? Quite clearly you felt a need, you said so yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Gutenhagen Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 So since hundreds of alliances do it that makes it okay for you? I don't even know what you're talking about in the second bold, paranoia I guess. I know what you said too, and you leave it open to be taken out of context. In fact that entire second set of bold I placed in the above quote just highlights that which takes me to this point; If NAPs aren't worth signing then why did you feel the need to sign one? Quite clearly you felt a need, you said so yourself. Oh no he di-en't! "Oh yes he did" Whoooooaaaaa! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emporor Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 :CHEERS: Here's to the new year I suppose. You know they say whatever you are doing when new years comes around thats what you could be doing for the rest of the year or somethin like that... Maybe this is a bad sign for both of you. GL to both parties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
President Chris Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Sorry to hear about this cancellation. Also Hi Marx it's been awhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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