letub Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 As The Destiny Project continues to develop, we have a few announcements to make. First off, Destiny's Child. As we add only active members to our ranks, we have created a branch off TDP for recruits to hang out in while we gauge their activity levels, both forum and IRC wise. As to be expected, all nations under Destiny's Child are protected from rogue attacks. Second, embassies with TDP. We've decided to take our embassy approach in a new direction. As we still welcome embassies on TDP's forums, we've decided to move to IRC embassies. We realize that IRC activity is much more common than foreign forum activity, so hopefully we can get to know our friends and allies better by hanging out via IRC instead of bouncing back and forth between forums. To request an IRC embassy, please visit TDP's forums to request a private channel and we'll set one up. Finally, The Destiny Pact revisions. We have decided to add in a PZI clause to this pact. Simply stating that any person caught using OOC attacks rather they be on a person of our community or forums, are subject to PZI. Preamble:This is Destiny's Universal Policy. Article I: Destiny We do not believe Optional Defense and Optional Aggression pacts are necessary as everything is optional. Article II: E-Lawyer This treaty allows for The Destiny Project to enter a war in the defense or aggression of any alliance we deem fit. This treaty may only be enacted by a seventy-five percent majority of our General Assembly. Article III: No Reservations Required Any alliance may assist in aggressive attacks by The Destiny Project and may help defend The Destiny Project from unprovoked attacks of aggression. Article IV. The Destiny Pacts P-ZI Policy. We reserve the right to PZI any nation who resorts to the use of OOC attacks rather they be on a person of our community or forums. Article V: Good Night Sweet Prince This treaty can be canceled by The Destiny Project General Assembly with a seventy-five percent majority. You can reach us at: www.thedestinyproject.com or #Destiny on Coldfront Brought to you by the fine folks at TDP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Flech Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 (edited) o/ Destiny even though I don't really get this very much. Edit: 1st post Edited August 23, 2009 by Nathan Flech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murtagh Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 Fine folks? Nonsense =P o/ The Destiny Project; future is looking fine. =] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando12 Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 Great idea about IRC Embassies, much faster communications... As always, your friends in USCN wish you guys the best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 PZI? Bad show, unless your idea of an OOC attack is clearly defined somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 IRC > Forums Can't really agree with PZI though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Reccesion Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 PZI?Bad show, unless your idea of an OOC attack is clearly defined somewhere. I think he means as in OOC attack as in irl threats or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorponok Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 Nice to hear. Also TIO are really impressed with the |IRC Concept Embassy Idea. Its pretty ingenius. Keep up the great work guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murtagh Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 (edited) I think he means as in OOC attack as in irl threats or something? OOC attacks refer to nations that resort to hostile actions out of the bounds of CN in order to "attack" TDP ie. deleting forums, impersonating leaders, ect. These types of attacks are consider especially inappropriate and while we would prefer to avoid having to PZI someone; it is incredibly appropriate should their actions threaten the safety and security of TDP. While it is not a decision we will take lightly; it is not one we will ignore should the situation arise. edit: clarifying details Edited August 23, 2009 by Murtagh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Reccesion Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 OOC attacks refer to nations that resort to actions out of the bounds of CN. ie. deleting forums, impersonating leaders, ect. These types of attacks are consider especially inappropriate and while we would prefer to avoid having to PZI someone; it is incredibly appropriate should their actions threaten the safety and security of TDP. Then I support your PZI rule Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 OOC attacks refer to nations that resort to hostile actions out of the bounds of CN in order to "attack" TDP ie. deleting forums, impersonating leaders, ect. These types of attacks are consider especially inappropriate and while we would prefer to avoid having to PZI someone; it is incredibly appropriate should their actions threaten the safety and security of TDP.While it is not a decision we will take lightly; it is not one we will ignore should the situation arise. edit: clarifying details There are better ways to put it than "OOC attackers get PZI'ed." Give yourself a little leeway with something like "any attack on the TDP will warrant an appropriate response, up to PZI for the most egregious offenses." Specialized clauses like the current PZI clause in a charter are kinda funny, it's usually better to have generalities in the charter and specifics as a part of alliance policy. You could even have a list of alliances policies, one of which would be "OOC offenses warrant a PZI in response." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murtagh Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 There are better ways to put it than "OOC attackers get PZI'ed." Give yourself a little leeway with something like "any attack on the TDP will warrant an appropriate response, up to PZI for the most egregious offenses." Specialized clauses like the current PZI clause in a charter are kinda funny, it's usually better to have generalities in the charter and specifics as a part of alliance policy. You could even have a list of alliances policies, one of which would be "OOC offenses warrant a PZI in response." Well this is not our charter... It is our alliance policies. And just like the rest of the Destiny Pact. Everything is a case by case issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 Well this is not our charter... It is our alliance policies. And just like the rest of the Destiny Pact. Everything is a case by case issue. Ah, I saw articles and assumed. My apologies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murtagh Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 Ah, I saw articles and assumed. My apologies. Not a problem; I'm happy to clarify. =] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letub Posted August 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 There are better ways to put it than "OOC attackers get PZI'ed." Give yourself a little leeway with something like "any attack on the TDP will warrant an appropriate response, up to PZI for the most egregious offenses." Specialized clauses like the current PZI clause in a charter are kinda funny, it's usually better to have generalities in the charter and specifics as a part of alliance policy. You could even have a list of alliances policies, one of which would be "OOC offenses warrant a PZI in response." Thanks for the suggestions. We will clarify our policy to avoid potential confusion in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Druss the Legend Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 Congratulations Destiny. Looking Good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schattenmann Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 Destiny marches on. Good luck to our Red friends. We'll see you at the top! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francesca Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 I never used to think that I'd support a perma ZI for anyone, but I've changed my mind. Simply put, there is some behaviour that does warrant such an action. Hails and such, and best of luck growing, Destiny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilien Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 Forward TDP! You've made excellent progress, and your future looks bright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murtagh Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 Thanks to everyone for the support. It is good to see people are willing to look at the logic placed behind our new policy instead of the undeniable controversy of the policy itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingSVH Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 great stuff as always Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shimmer Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 (edited) I never used to think that I'd support a perma ZI for anyone, but I've changed my mind. Simply put, there is some behavior that does warrant such an action. Hails and such, and best of luck growing, Destiny. I have to agree with this which is why our policy has changed. I use to be a major opponent of PZI. However, [ooc]like the death penalty sometimes these things are necessary for the worst of the worst.[/occ] Edit: Left out [/ooc] Edited August 28, 2009 by TimLee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Squirrel Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Great news TDP! I look forward to continuing our relations via the :awesome:ly new IRC embassy system.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidas Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 O/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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