Logan Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 As I mentioned in the other thread. NSO consented to the attacks on their nations. RAD followed through with this dare and declared war on a NSO nation, then later attacked. NSO issued a declaration of war on all of RAD. These are the facts. Both parties should feel in the right, but both need to admit their part. This is a beautiful thing, take credit for being interesting and sovereign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tygaland Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 Are you really going to accuse RAD of trying to pick trouble where there shouldn't be any? You are more than capable of reading their DoW thread. I do recall NSO said "would anybody really care if we wiped RAD/IS/PC off the map?"... that wasn't RAD asking that. I recall ChairmanHal saying he has never been wrong with his predictions. People can say anything, it doesn't mean it is true or they mean it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heft Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 As I mentioned in the other thread. NSO consented to the attacks on their nations. RAD followed through with this dare and declared war on a NSO nation, then later attacked. NSO issued a declaration of war on all of RAD. These are the facts. Both parties should feel in the right, but both need to admit their part. This is a beautiful thing, take credit for being interesting and sovereign. Why must you lie, sir? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tygaland Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 That thread was fun. This thread is fun. NSO's thread is fun. CN is actually happening right now. I'm not saying it isn't fun. HeinousOne has the idea, you should thank us. CN was starting to become the same boring place it's used to being, and RAD spiced it up a little. In my opinion, that's a good thing. You may argue, hate us, troll us, whatever you'd like, but the bottom line is, we have given you something to do. The least you could do is recognize and appreciate that. B) I'm not complaining about what is happening. The people I'm arguing with are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakerzz8 Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 this is a normal situation taking to an epic fail moment If a government member from an alliance declaring on another alliance's member and expecting nothing to happen is a normal situation... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 Why must you lie, sir? Its no lie. They saw what happened to Srqt and wanted the same response. Asking someone to 'bring it' is natural, its up to the other party at the point to bring it or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowalski Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 (edited) This is quite amusing. NSO should know what RAD are like and could have quite easily brushed this off, RAD should know what NSO are like and should not be surprised about this at all. 95% of the time it would not lead to an alliance war but hell, it was still an official alliance announcement declaring war on a member of another alliance. Fair play to RAD for taking it on the chin in such a good fashion though. More of this I say! Edited August 15, 2009 by Kowalski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heft Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 Its no lie. They saw what happened to Srqt and wanted the same response. Asking someone to 'bring it' is natural, its up to the other party at the point to bring it or not. You understand the "They" you refer to includes me? And that at no point did myself, any other Sith Lord, or the Dark Lord, ever grant anyone permission to go and attack an NSO nation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homeboy Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 If a government member from an alliance declaring on another alliance's member and expecting nothing to happen is a normal situation... well not if you take it that far, I just mean a nation attacking another nation for the 'lulz' and then getting their AA rolled which is all an epic fail moment to be remembered for quite awhile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeinousOne Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 Frankly you can say whatever you want, RAD's allies are far more numerous than you'd imagine and are waiting to see how this works out. On our side we're hoping for a quick and amicable peace. Right, because RAD's allies wish to be known for supporting lulzy aggressive attacks with zero CB right? Yeah, that will go over well. We already saw Delta's response to your initial threat. Taking that into consideration I would say this is a case of yet another boastful bluff. That thread was fun. This thread is fun. NSO's thread is fun. CN is actually happening right now.HeinousOne has the idea, you should thank us. CN was starting to become the same boring place it's used to being, and RAD spiced it up a little. In my opinion, that's a good thing. You may argue, hate us, troll us, whatever you'd like, but the bottom line is, we have given you something to do. The least you could do is recognize and appreciate that. B) Stop bringing my IRC convo here! That's it, I dare you to attack me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suryanto tan Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 That thread was fun. This thread is fun. NSO's thread is fun. CN is actually happening right now.HeinousOne has the idea, you should thank us. CN was starting to become the same boring place it's used to being, and RAD spiced it up a little. In my opinion, that's a good thing. You may argue, hate us, troll us, whatever you'd like, but the bottom line is, we have given you something to do. The least you could do is recognize and appreciate that. B) Surprise us with the result of this war, then we can all agree that it is indeed interesting. If it is just another beat down, with your alliance admit defeat and ask for mercy, what good is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tygaland Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 well not if you take it that far, I just mean a nation attacking another nation for the 'lulz' and then getting their AA rolled which is all an epic fail moment to be remembered for quite awhile I'm not sure where alliances signed up to accept "lulz" as a reason to allow their members to be attacked without consequence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakerzz8 Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 well not if you take it that far, I just mean a nation attacking another nation for the 'lulz' and then getting their AA rolled which is all an epic fail moment to be remembered for quite awhile It should be expected that good things don't come from attacking aligned nations for "lulz." The result is usually an epic fail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kung Fu Geeks Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 Surprise us with the result of this war, then we can all agree that it is indeed interesting.If it is just another beat down, with your alliance admit defeat and ask for mercy, what good is that? tan, you must have missed the part where NSO stated it would only be 1 round of non nuclear attacks followed by white peace (assuming nobody escalates it) Nobody will admit defeat or ask for mercy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homeboy Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 It should be expected that good things don't come from attacking aligned nations for "lulz." The result is usually an epic fail. You get my point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 You understand the "They" you refer to includes me? And that at no point did myself, any other Sith Lord, or the Dark Lord, ever grant anyone permission to go and attack an NSO nation? The nations asked for an attack on themselves. I'm not an expert on the NSO policy so excuse me if I'm totally off base on this point, but I was under the impression that NSO nations are responsible for their own business like that. But as I stated earlier, you were in your right to take action. RAD was just embracing their passion and whatnot and striking down and mumbojumbo like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homeboy Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 I'm not sure where alliances signed up to accept "lulz" as a reason to allow their members to be attacked without consequence. not an alliance lulz just one person trying to do something foolish that ended very badly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tygaland Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 not an alliance lulz just one person trying to do something foolish that ended very badly Foolish things quite often end badly. That is why they are considered foolish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suryanto tan Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 tan, you must have missed the part where NSO stated it would only be 1 round of non nuclear attacks followed by white peace (assuming nobody escalates it)Nobody will admit defeat or ask for mercy. I missed that part. Thanks for pointing that out. No surprise then. Let's hope RAD will not let them take the loot and walkaway. Let's wait for the spirit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UberSpion Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 Foolish things quite often end badly. That is why they are considered foolish. wouldn't be the first time... good luck all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heft Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 The nations asked for an attack on themselves. I'm not an expert on the NSO policy so excuse me if I'm totally off base on this point, but I was under the impression that NSO nations are responsible for their own business like that. But as I stated earlier, you were in your right to take action. RAD was just embracing their passion and whatnot and striking down and mumbojumbo like that. I would dispute whether "Don't forget me" or whatever constitutes "permission" in any sense, but as you don't seem to really disagree with the war itself, per se, I'll not bother getting into that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homeboy Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 Foolish things quite often end badly. That is why they are considered foolish. Especially government member to government member, the highest positions require the highest respect no matter strength of AA or not. This shenanigans are over and resolved with 1 week of war which will hopefully clean all hearts on both sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Greenberg Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 (edited) Foolish things quite often end badly. That is why they are considered foolish. This is the last reply I will post in topics involving this NSO-RAD thing. Tyga is 100% correct in my personal opinion. The RAD gov guy who attacked NSO gov did something extremely foolish. When you attack a member(especially a gov member) of another alliance, you better expect some sort of retaliation because its not a joke when you do that "lulz" or whatever its called. Edited August 15, 2009 by Ryan Greenberg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivellios Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 Logged into to find some nice RAD nations ambushed me while I was trying to save up for my infra jump! This won't end well for you RAD. Bad move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angrator Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 C'mon don't play the whining card. It was all fun and good when you declared a lulz war against one of government members. You should have guessed how it would play out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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