Trikoupis Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 (edited) Incorrect.The decision to leave NoR hanging out to dry was made in the Initiative's private channels. Random was there. So Random can tell us whether TI decided to leave Nordreich out to dry or not. But what does this have to do with the question whether there was racist material and "cryptonazis" in Nordreich at the time? Did all these people simply decided to sell out so many of their comrades as "racists" and "cryptonazis" without any real basis whatsoever? And then most of Nordreich's membership followed a guy who was obviously lying? The membership could see in forums. They knew the truth. And they followed a liar? Just like that? Edited May 8, 2009 by Trikoupis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Cartman Lee Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 Hasn't this particular dead horse been beaten enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Flinders Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 Hasn't this particular dead horse been beaten enough? LSF doesn't get a lot of chances to posture. Let the guy have his little tantrum. It'll all be done soon enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trikoupis Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 LSF doesn't get a lot of chances to posture. Let the guy have his little tantrum. It'll all be done soon enough. More good show from the people backing NoR. Such quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Flinders Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 (edited) More good show from the people backing NoR. Such quality. I'm noone of importance. Just a pack of trolls over here. Though are we supposed to look upon your griefing (I'm sure that's a word) as quality reading? Edited May 8, 2009 by Captain Flinders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingzog Posted May 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 So Random can tell us whether TI decided to leave Nordreich out to dry or not. But what does this have to do with the question whether there was racist material and "cryptonazis" in Nordreich at the time? Did all these people simply decided to sell out so many of their comrades as "racists" and "cryptonazis" without any real basis whatsoever? And then most of Nordreich's membership followed a guy who was obviously lying? The membership could see in forums. They knew the truth. And they followed a liar? Just like that? The answer, unfortunately, is "yes." Read the statement below very carefully.... I do not mean to derail this, but there is a reason I stated that it should not have existed. Basically when Nordreich was falling apart, the Initiative realized it would lose a meatshield. So the various leaders of the Initiative, including myself, gathered in an IRC channel with Martens. He admitted to killing NoR from the inside. In that channel, upon request from every Initiative leader (save myself but including FAN, a fact they would later deny) Nordren Verin was created and Nordreich was decided to be a nazi organization. NoV was created as a protectorate of the NPO with the backing of the rest of the Initiative (again, minus Polar) and would be assigned to permanent meatshield duty. That is until they stopped being useful.It was an alliance that only existed to allow the Initiative to prop up the dead body of NoR so we wouldn't lose total NS for future wars. Sorry to derail the reunion thread. I do still sorely miss Nordreich though. Anyway, I do believe we're done talking. Please take your posturing somewhere else. I find it to be tiresome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oberherr Xenu Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 Nope. We claimed victory after NoV disbanded, because... we survived while they didn't. A peace was never signed and if NoV comes back, we are technically at war.Wasn't Nordreich disbanded for being a "place full with Racist rhetoric" and "Cryptonazis"? Let me quote the Kaizer (you may find his full speech here ) : And didn't most of it's membership follow the Kaiser in order to make a fresh start after admitting the impossibility to do so in NoR? It would do you well to read this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilhelm1908 Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 Heia Nordreich. About time you came back, and gave Planet Bob something that has been missing for a long time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykep Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 (edited) I'm noone of importance. Just a pack of trolls over here. Though are we supposed to look upon your griefing (I'm sure that's a word) as quality reading? You are important to me . More good show from the people backing NoR. Such quality. Please, by all means, continue your babbling. Edited May 8, 2009 by mykep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Flinders Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 You are important to me . Please, continuie Oh you. Stop it *Flinders playfully pushes Myke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shurukian Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 Welcome back, Nordreich. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilya Murometz Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 Epic Win. GOONs, FAN, now NordReich; all is well :3 Thing is, FAN didn't disband, whereas GOONs and NordReich did. Hence it's wrong to throw FAN into that mix. Whether you disbanded, but not unofficially is irrelevant, as you are comparing an alliance that has disbanded with one that has not. A welcome back to Nordreich!! A long time over due.For all those nay saying a "Dead" alliance coming back. Wasn't that part of what the karma was fighting for? Respect freedom on planet bob! Errr, ummm, not really. Karma War isn't a resurrecting healer. One thing Karma War is against though, would be B/S CBs. Just like your past CB on the Commies. B/S CBs now make you rollable, just a friendly reminder. I guess it's time to peace TPF then. TPF hasn't been peaced yet? I thought it's just about NPO and possibly IRON now. the irony is that killing commies is the only good thing nor ever did(yes i do in fact hate everyone) I love the two lines. They go so well together. History just likes to repeat itself around here. Just around here? History repeats itself everywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haflinger Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 TPF hasn't been peaced yet? I thought it's just about NPO and possibly IRON now. Alliances still fighting on the Hegemony side include: NPO TPF Valhalla IRON Echelon GGA 64Digits BAPS NEW Avalon So ... no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilya Murometz Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 Alliances still fighting on the Hegemony side include:NPO TPF Valhalla IRON Echelon GGA 64Digits BAPS NEW Avalon So ... no. Ahh, thank you for the correction. Still, only 10 left. Anyways, let's get back on topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovyet Gelibolu Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 (edited) Technically there was no peace treaty between ICSN and NPO back in the first few months of the game (ICSN was curbstomped. NPO was satisfied with the result and just walked away). If those kinds of things are carried on from alliance to alliance then...ICSN became ICP became SWF became CPCN became INT The line of heredity stops at SWF. CPCN was not created from SWF. Nor was it created from ICP 2.0. CPCN was created from LSF several months after both SWF and ICP 2.0 were destroyed. The geneology of the Left alliances descended from the ICSN goes like this: _______SRI X_______________SE X ______/___________________/__\ _____/ICP----ICP X---------SWF X___\ ____/ /_____/___________/_______\ ICSN---ICSN X______ICSN2.0 X_____INT _____\__________________________/ _____LSF_______________________/ ________\_____________________/ _________CPCN___________CPCN X It's quite a stretch, but by the same logic INT is, and always has been, at war with NPO. Well, the peace terms that end the Karma War should set that right Edited May 8, 2009 by Sovyet Gelibolu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hizzy Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 SRI X SE / / \ /ICP -- ICP -----------SWF X \ / / / / \ ICSN - ICSN X ICSN2.0 INT \ / LSF / \ / CPCN----------------CPCN looks like some inbreeding going on to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrototyoeRuler Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 Well, Toweliee..Those weren't the best of days. I wouldn't complain about the number of nukes received if I were you. Your are out-classed there sir. LUA refused the terms as they were based on a subjective lie about OOC matters. They stood for what was truth. This truth is is same today as it was then. At least get your history straight before you comment. Besides, this is ancient history in the CN scheme of things. Complaining? I have been nuked more times in defense of my alliance and friends than you ever have. Honestly, I think you need to leave this thread because I know more about the situation because well...I was in it. I was the CPCN government member that LUA spoke with about surrender terms. So go along and play, and let the people who where actually there speak about what actual went on...not your "cybernations wiki" interpretation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovyet Gelibolu Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 looks like some inbreeding going on to me Edited. It looks proper now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hizzy Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 Edited. It looks proper now. lol that didn't help your case any Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rommelgrad Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 Good luck out there Nordreich, I hope to see no hostility between our two German based alliances. also keep your hands off of our lovable commie allies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade Yev Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 (edited) _______SRI X_______________SE X______/___________________/__\ _____/ICP----ICP X---------SWF X___\ ____/ /_____/___________/_______\ ICSN---ICSN X______ICSN2.0 X_____INT _____\__________________________/ _____LSF_______________________/ ________\_____________________/ _________CPCN___________CPCN X I imagine most of that is right but the original ICSN predated all the other leftist alliances. Silent's first alliance and ICP broke off of it. EDIT - Wait, I was reading it from top down. Mah bad. Edited May 8, 2009 by Comrade Yev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnLimited Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 People doesn't seem to know the difference between Nordreich and Norden Verein. Nordreich NEVER died. The spirit moved on. And here they are. Norden Verein on the other hand is dead. Let it be that way. Don't confuse NoR to NoV. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duce Giordani Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 (edited) I liked the old Nordreich charter, it explicitly stated Nordreich was based on fascism and meritocracy, and was thus more honest than this charter. Article II: Politics The Northern Reich is effectively a meritocratic-monarchy. Inspired in part by Imperial Deutschland and other various sources, the Reich’s political organization takes the checks and balances of representative democracy, the honor and zeal of limited monarchy, and the sheer efficiency of fascist dictatorship. lolfascists Edited May 8, 2009 by Duce Giordani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bowie Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 (edited) Complaining? I have been nuked more times in defense of my alliance and friends than you ever have. Honestly, I think you need to leave this thread because I know more about the situation because well...I was in it. I was the CPCN government member that LUA spoke with about surrender terms. So go along and play, and let the people who where actually there speak about what actual went on...not your "cybernations wiki" interpretation. LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL Yeah Huston, take that! God this is a funny post. JB Edited May 8, 2009 by Jim Bowie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingzog Posted May 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 I liked the old Nordreich charter, it explicitly stated Nordreich was based on fascism and meritocracy, and was thus more honest than this charter.lolfascists I liked the old LSF, which was explicitly based on Libertarian Socialism. lol"anarchists" See? I can do it, too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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