Wes Walz Pants Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 I'm not vindictive enough to hold a grudge over the reasons for this announcement. May your future be a happy one. Surely though you can't blame the membership and leadership of TORN if they harbor ill feelings towards a former ally who leveled a vicious accusation as in your OP. Can you? I still await proof of your accusation while others are already demanding proof from TORN to support their innocence. You always had my personal respect, Delta. It's really a shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta1212 Posted April 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 Surely though you can't blame the membership and leadership of TORN if they harbor ill feelings towards a former ally who leveled a vicious accusation as in your OP. Can you? I still await proof of your accusation while others are already demanding proof from TORN to support their innocence. You always had my personal respect, Delta. It's really a shame. I will happily share my reasoning with anyone who requests it via PM or query. Doing so publicly would only exacerbate the situation, which I do not feel the need for now that talks have actually been allowed to begin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorbolt Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 Surely though you can't blame the membership and leadership of TORN if they harbor ill feelings towards a former ally who leveled a vicious accusation as in your OP. Can you? I still await proof of your accusation while others are already demanding proof from TORN to support their innocence. You always had my personal respect, Delta. It's really a shame. So let me get the sequence of events strait. TORN approaches its allies asking for their support in a war against OV. TORN is unable to produce real evidence of wrongdoing on OVs part. Shared allies between TORN-OV drop treaties with TORN because they feel TORN was being unduly aggressive considering. Now you say there is no evidence that any of this was actually happening?? Why then are talks underway at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwoody Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 So let me get the sequence of events strait.TORN approaches its allies asking for their support in a war against OV. TORN is unable to produce real evidence of wrongdoing on OVs part. Shared allies between TORN-OV drop treaties with TORN because they feel TORN was being unduly aggressive considering. Now you say there is no evidence that any of this was actually happening?? Why then are talks underway at all? I think the matter is being cleared up pretty well. Talks are underway because some parties have a genuine desire for a peaceful resolution to the existing issues, and we thank them for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sithis Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 I do, however, stand by it as the correct one under the circumstances. In time, perhaps you will see the inaccuracy of this statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzzptm Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 I will happily share my reasoning with anyone who requests it via PM or query. Doing so publicly would only exacerbate the situation, which I do not feel the need for now that talks have actually been allowed to begin. PM sent, and I promise to keep the matters provided me confidential and private. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorbolt Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 I think the matter is being cleared up pretty well. Talks are underway because some parties have a genuine desire for a peaceful resolution to the existing issues, and we thank them for it. I understand that perfectly and I wish you the best in resolving the issue peaceably. I simply do not understand Calderone and your own insinuation that RIA is unjustified in their treaty cancelation which appears to be totally accurate. It is hardly fitting you make direct barbed comments at your former ally while dismissing other posts as being inflamatory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 You forgot about the worst meme since "brilliant political move". "Posting this will get me warned." seems to be the cool new thing to spew over every damn topic on these boards. Not my fault I post quicker than all of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwoody Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 I understand that perfectly and I wish you the best in resolving the issue peaceably. I simply do not understand Calderone and your own insinuation that RIA is unjustified in their treaty cancelation which appears to be totally accurate.It is hardly fitting you make direct barbed comments at your former ally while dismissing other posts as being inflamatory. Making the claim of a manufactured CB before talks had even begun is a heavy accusation. That said, if our treaty was so empty that they felt this was the route to take, then nothing of value was lost. Others have been far more honest in their cancellations, which I have appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Impero Romano Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 Making the claim of a manufactured CB before talks had even begun is a heavy accusation. Once again please don't make me clarify, but you know why one would say that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwoody Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 Once again please don't make me clarify, but you know why one would say that. I know exactly why one would say that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzzptm Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 I will happily share my reasoning with anyone who requests it via PM or query. Doing so publicly would only exacerbate the situation, which I do not feel the need for now that talks have actually been allowed to begin. Delta did send the information to me. I did have to wait a bit, but such a wait is completely understandable, given the situation and level of interest in the matter. He is a man of his word, and I have to say that I do believe RIA did the right thing in this case. It is good that they are talking with TORN in the matter, and I do believe Delta hopes to arrive at a peace formula acceptable to all. I did promise to keep the information sent to me confidential and private, so I shall do just that. If you must know all, get it from the source and not a muddy downstream puddle like myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta1212 Posted April 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 Delta did send the information to me. I did have to wait a bit, but such a wait is completely understandable, given the situation and level of interest in the matter. He is a man of his word, and I have to say that I do believe RIA did the right thing in this case. It is good that they are talking with TORN in the matter, and I do believe Delta hopes to arrive at a peace formula acceptable to all.I did promise to keep the information sent to me confidential and private, so I shall do just that. If you must know all, get it from the source and not a muddy downstream puddle like myself. Just a small point of correction. It's VE and OV who are in the actual talks at this time, rather than myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal Paradise Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 I weep for TORN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choop Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 I AM IN LOVE WITH THIS THREAD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta1212 Posted April 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 I AM IN LOVE WITH THIS THREAD There's a reason I like TORN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMitt King Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 I AM IN LOVE WITH THIS THREAD I'm I'm in love with Choop this thread, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griswalds Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 quinao_rex :dance: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WcaesarD Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 o/ RIA A just announcement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra25900 Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 Happy to see this RIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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