Rakari Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 I hope the leaders of STA realize that people aren't reacting with shock because you are giving someone a second chance. Or because you are giving someone an opportunity to grow. The shock is due to the fact that this is not a second chance, it is a 10th chance. And he's had plenty of opportunities to grow previously. Thank you for your concern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draov Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 He did... hence the logs he dropped... what he said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankees Empire Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 Draov, if you care so much, why don't you go ask him, f I have talked to him or not yet! According to the log, Mogar found out you were leaving because Draov told him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin McDonald Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 Thank you for your concern. That is truly what it is, I'm not one to go trolling for any old reason. I'm just familiar with Kobi and his handiwork, so this seriously was concern, and nothing more. That said, I've said my piece. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 Draov, if you care so much, why don't you go ask him, f I have talked to him or not yet! I think more the question is why would you lie about something like that that he can easily check? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Archer Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 Draov, if you care so much, why don't you go ask him, f I have talked to him or not yet! /me facepalms the logs. read them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balder Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 I hope the leaders of STA realize that people aren't reacting with shock because you are giving someone a second chance. Or because you are giving someone an opportunity to grow. The shock is due to the fact that this is not a second chance, it is a 10th chance. And he's had plenty of opportunities to grow previously. Ten chances? Has it really only been ten? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobiashiy Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 I had posted on there forums, and then he asked me later and then we talked and he said he was fine with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heracles the Great Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 I wish my friends in STA the best of luck with this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 (edited) I had posted on there forums, and then he asked me later and then we talked and he said he was fine with it. Did you read the logs? He seems to have no idea about this supposed conversation. Edited March 26, 2009 by Penlugue Solaris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 (edited) Did you read the logs? He seems to have no idea about this supposed conversation. I had the convo about the same time, I am highly inactive on the IRAN forums, and almost every other forums but these. you sure about that? I'm disappointed you dropped logs of a private conversation I had with you without asking me first. Edited March 26, 2009 by Mogar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobiashiy Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 you guys happy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 (edited) you guys happy? The fact that he wasn't notified by you still makes me giggle. Edit: And since draov talked to him before regardless, I am satisfied. I wonder how draov came to know before Mogar did, when Mogar was the one who was defending you the whole time and stopped the raids on you because we at Nem have respect for Mogar. Kinda sad you didn't give him more notice when he has done a lot for you. Edited March 26, 2009 by Penlugue Solaris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakerzz8 Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 Often times judging others reveals more about your own character than the character of those you judge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 The fact that he wasn't notified by you still makes me giggle. He notified us on our forums, thats all most alliances ask for, I just dont check the forums . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balder Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 you guys happy? You cited that you had spoken to Mogar already... which prompted Draov to go and find out. Yet... then Mogar says you spoke to him around the same time. So, no, not really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draov Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 I had the convo about the same time, I am highly inactive on the IRAN forums, and almost every other forums but these.I'm disappointed you dropped logs of a private conversation I had with you without asking me first. not like it was a super secret me and you are declaring on an alliance conversation. It was me informing you of kobi abandoning your alliance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobiashiy Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 not like it was a super secret me and you are declaring on an alliance conversation. It was me informing you of kobi abandoning your alliance. I didn't abandon them, I gave them the forums I created for them, and masked myself as a guest and gave Mogar root admin, I didnt abandon them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 not like it was a super secret me and you are declaring on an alliance conversation. It was me informing you of kobi abandoning your alliance. I realize this, but like most people it bugs me, what if I had bared my soul to you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draov Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 I realize this, but like most people it bugs me, what if I had bared my soul to you? my apologies for using private logs, if you had bared your soul to me, i would have edited out that part.. just used the logs to prove my point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van Hoo III Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 I realize this, but like most people it bugs me, what if I had bared my soul to you? Shens. You do not have a soul. Congrats to both parties involved and I sincerely hope that Kobiashiy takes the chance he has been given seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 (edited) Shens. You do not have a soul. Congrats to both parties involved and I sincerely hope that Kobiashiy takes the chance he has been given seriously. As much as people want to harass and insult him, he does have a good work ethic, and I think with support he can make a successful alliance. Edited March 26, 2009 by Mogar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balder Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 As much as people want to harass and insult him, he does have a good work ethic, and I think with support he can make a successful alliance. He had support last time as well. Unless you mean public support, which he won't get for a number of reasons. Just like last time, the only way this chance can get messed up is if HE messes it up. I'm not holding my breath personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobiashiy Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 I actually have people I can go to this time, Jipps for one has helped me a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balder Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 I actually have people I can go to this time, Jipps for one has helped me a lot. The reason you failed last time was due to your protectors then, not you? It was alive for a number of hours, not even days. I'm calling fraud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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