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[img]http://i55.tinypic.com/207assk.gif[/img] HMFC Declares WAR on Lafayette Escadrille [img]http://i52.tinypic.com/j9sg2x.gif[/img]

HMFC, Lord Fleegle of Banana Splits doesn't care if this is considered an up-declare OR a down-declare

Lord Fleegle is sickened by 'OWF-speak' and believes it is ruining TE

For the record, Stats are as Follows

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[*]Lafayette Escadrille - spiralling downwards
[*]HMFC - Ditto :rolleyes:
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[quote]:. Received Message
To: Fleegle From: bibliotech Date: 7/29/2011 12:12:31 AM

Subject: Sanctions!

Message: Trade sanctions have been setup against your nation by bibliotech of the Black team. You will no longer be allowed to conduct trades while you are a member of the Black team while these sanctions are active and all non-secret trades with the Black team have been canceled. [/quote]

Sad Sac :rolleyes:

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[quote name='bannyfaws' timestamp='1311922732' post='2766804']
a 1 man alliance declares on LE (brown) and he gets sanctioned (black )

can someone please explain what that is all about
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The following is the official statement of the Great and Honorable Black Team Senator from TPC, Bibliotech. There will be no further comment.
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[size="3"]A number of rounds ago, TE faced a major problem which threatened to crush it--out of control sanctioning. In response to the growing surplus of sanctioning, a number of Team Senators sat down and reached a compromise. These great leaders agreed to gradually reduce the size of team government, by reducing the surplus of sanctioning that took place. In taking a balanced approach, the teams cut sanctions on the middle class and raised them on the top 2% of players that could afford them. These TE barons were people that often went off and did their own thing, taking money from other nations to pay for their level 8 jets and using nukes to increase the wealth gap. The TE Constitution explicitly prohibits Team Senators from sanctioning nations from other teams. In order to promote good economic policy for the middle class, the Senators from different colour teams regularly sanction nations at the request of alliances that create jobs in other colours. I simply fulfilled the campaign promise I made to my constituents.[/size]

[size="1"]The following comment was vetted by the TPC legal department before release. Unless otherwise indicated, TPC attorneys are not certified as specialists by the Black Team Commission on Continuing Legal Education and Specialization in the areas of practice listed on their profiles.[/size]

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[quote name='bannyfaws' timestamp='1311922732' post='2766804']
a 1 man alliance declares on LE (brown) and he gets sanctioned (black )

can someone please explain what that is all about
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Beats me mate

[size="4"][size="5"]6 BLACK Nations suffer because of this action[/size] - to protect a BROWN Alliance !![/size]

The reason given was "Nuke Rogue on LE"

This thread is a Valid DoW

I had the choice of sitting at #1 & being percieved as a Flag Runner OR find myself a WAR !!
I found a WAR, but because I have Nukes - I'm a Rogue ??

Prior to this DoW
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[*]I raided (since day 2) continously (see attacking stats)
[*]Hardly anyone fought back (see defending stats) - so I grew to #1 (A Target)
[*]I helped out other Alliances with their wars (Killing Top-end Nations)
[*]Prior to TPC's War(s) I offered to join TPC (who were due a war) - King James said no, he was worried about how it would affect TPC's stats
[*](And how ^ that ^ would appear on the OWF)
[*]- - - -
[*]So, I declare on an Alliance who can (will) potentially, have SIX Nations on me - A BROWN Alliance !!
[*]AND I AM SANCTIONED !!
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[*]Not just myself, but my 5 TC partners suffer because I attack one of Bibliotech's Senator Buddies !!
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TE is losing players every round - is it any wonder ?

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[*]You're a Nuke Rogue
[*]You're a Flag Runner
[*]That's a Down Declare
[*]That Alliance is just out of war
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[*]The Usual Suspects and their buddies on The OWF now run TE
[*]The Game itself, who's (clearly stated) rules I follw is NOW Secondary to the OWF wingeing & whineing !
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People should FIGHT - it's a WAR GAME !!

Use the OWF for recruiting, trades & DoW's people - stop whineing and worrying about your OWF image !!
Fight & have FUN or TE WILL DIE out completely

[b]Bibliotech - YOU should be ashamed of yoursef !![/b]

This is my last 'political' statement on the thread - ALL others, if any, will be War related !!

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ive got to agree with fleegle ,unlike so many other guys that sit at number 1 ,hes not trying to hide ,hes taking it to them , not trying to chase a flag .

the games about war ,why prosecute someone for doing what the games all about !


THIS STINKS :(

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A) Run for the flag

B) Hit the top nations (each of which are 2:1 underdogs) from an alliance that got roughed up and has worked hard to recover

C) Hunt down flagrunners and beat them into the ground

D) Declare victory and go back to SE

There is only one right answer here. I'm sad to see that you didn't choose it. :(

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It happened several times with me,perhaps LE will never stop sanctioning big players :wacko:
Fleegle shouldnt be sanctioned.

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That is why people should go to the BLUE sphere, it is sanction free and in the odd situation where a sanction is or was applied OP senators will remove them.

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Fleegle, you're a joke. For one, why did you leave RE and avoid fighting OP? Get. Out. Just so you know, had Bibs not sanctioned you, I would have. Honestly, when you attack an alliance who has tried hard to rebuild for nearly the entirety of the round and who's strongest nation is 13k NS while you're at 23k NS and fully Nuclear unlike them, what do you expect? Now, I can tell you what really happened.... Basically, a nation in Anonymous spies Fleegle and is caught, he starts !@#$ting bricks about the possibility of being attacked, and attacks LE while trying to make it look like an Up-declare. Yep, that sounds about right. Not to mention this is the second time you've hit LE (First time was a tech raid). You attacked 3 nations, who have a collective total of 4 nukes & you have 18 with an SDI. All you've done now is Impede LE's growth & as a result stopped the possibility of them being able to go to war & fully recover. Just be happy it was only a sanction. umadphaggot?


Edit: Also, leave the !@#$%^&* out the door, you know that only LE's top three are in your range.


-Secret

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[quote name='Einer' timestamp='1311931127' post='2766857']B) Hit the top nations (each of which are 2:1 underdogs) from an alliance that got roughed up and has worked hard to recover[/quote]
I for one would never approve of sanctions issued from our senator during an alliance war. That will never happen as long as my opinion matters. Our red team senator this round is KOwens06. I dare you to ask him about sanctions during an alliance war. Go ahead. I dare you. Bring your athletic cup when you do.

This leaves the question of sanctioning rogues, which has often been a sanctionable offense in times past. I can see why TPC, a prime target for rogues in the past (o7 fishy!), might be a bit more supportive of sanctioning rogues than another alliance might be - especially considering the context Einer puts it in. Just sayin'. The solution:

[quote name='paul711' timestamp='1311952377' post='2766967']That is why people should go to the BLUE sphere, it is sanction free and in the odd situation where a sanction is or was applied OP senators will remove them.[/quote]
^^This. Why so many alliances/nations that wont get a senator anyway stay on black is beyond me, especially in this day and age where you can make whatever trade circle you want. There are plenty of color teams, even if you don't want to be blue. Go own yourself a color sphere. All you have to do is want it.

Fleegle, if you haven't voted yet switch teams.
If your trade circle hasn't voted yet, all of you switch teams.

If none of the above, try bribing the Anon* or RE senator to reverse them.
One of them likes porn, start with that.



*Fake edit: D'OH good luck with Stelios :P

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[quote name='Clash' timestamp='1311962237' post='2767066']

^^This. Why so many alliances/nations that wont get a senator anyway stay on black is beyond me, especially in this day and age where you can make whatever trade circle you want. There are plenty of color teams, even if you don't want to be blue. Go own yourself a color sphere. All you have to do is want it.

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It's because they know the black team is were the cool cats are at :P


Also, read my previous post, it should explain more about this Fleegle character,


Confusion.

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[quote name='Confusion' timestamp='1311962656' post='2767071']Also, read my previous post, it should explain more about this Fleegle character[/quote]
You mean I fake edited all for nothing?

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[quote name='Clash' timestamp='1311962833' post='2767075']
You mean I fake edited all for nothing?
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I just saw that :P


Confusion.

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Wow, this thread is seriously serious! :huh:

The humor is not lost on me, funny post King James! I'm pretty sure KJ's post is meant to be a lol and not a serious reply, sounds more like a play on Government double speak...good stuff. :P

The dictionary defines "alliance" as [i]"a formal agreement or treaty between [b]two or more [/b]nations to cooperate for specific purposes."[/i]

It is impossible for [b]one nation [/b]to be an alliance, the appropriate term commonly used in TE to describe Feegle would be a rogue, or more specifically in his case, a nuke rogue. Sorry, you can't have an "alliance war" when you act alone.

It all comes down to choices and consequences IMO - you can choose to rogue, others can choose to sanction. As you say Feegle, it's a war game, and the game includes sanctions. You can't include what you want and disgard what you don't agree with. Sanctions are part of the game, deal with it.

As far as you going to "find myself a war" I'm not sure that simple statement fully describes your actions. You avoided war with OP and went to find an easier war. Even as a rogue I doubt you'd be sanctioned if you had attacked 3 big nations, instead you chose a target that had little chance of defending themselves against your actions. Not surprising they reached out for sanction help, and not much surprise they were successful in getting it.

It is what it is, get a buddy to make a nation and hook up your TC partners until your mess gets cleaned up, that's the best you can do for your friends. Your actions always have potential consequences - this time it didn't work out so well, fixing it is your responsibility IMO. ;)

More war, less waaaaaaaaaa

PS: KJ, we need more lols...thanks!

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At last this Te is getting interesting. Better than the TV

Let see if I've got the story line right so far.

A big scary Nation Fleegle attacks a Itsy bittsy teeny weeny alliance of 32.

They are that scarred of the big bad scary Fleegle. They get a friend to chop of his trades. :frantic:

I just cant wait for the next episoed.

Will the big bad Nation. Run away with his tail between his legs

Or will he Nuke everyone. :nuke:

Will the poor tinny Alliance turtle.

Or surrender. :unsure:

What will happen next. Find out here soon.
:popcorn:

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[quote name='Confusion' timestamp='1311961701' post='2767058']
Fleegle, you're a joke. For one, why did you leave RE and avoid fighting OP? Get. Out. Just so you know, had Bibs not sanctioned you, I would have. Honestly, when you attack an alliance who has tried hard to rebuild for nearly the entirety of the round and who's strongest nation is 13k NS while you're at 23k NS and fully Nuclear unlike them, what do you expect? Now, I can tell you what really happened.... Basically, a nation in Anonymous spies Fleegle and is caught, he starts !@#$ting bricks about the possibility of being attacked, and attacks LE while trying to make it look like an Up-declare. Yep, that sounds about right. Not to mention this is the second time you've hit LE (First time was a tech raid). You attacked 3 nations, who have a collective total of 4 nukes & you have 18 with an SDI. All you've done now is Impede LE's growth & as a result stopped the possibility of them being able to go to war & fully recover. Just be happy it was only a sanction. umadphaggot?


Edit: Also, leave the !@#$%^&* out the door, you know that only LE's top three are in your range.


-Secret
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i think you will find fleegle left RE before OP declared war on them ,i think stelios can confirm this !

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[quote name='bannyfaws' timestamp='1311968333' post='2767134']
i think you will find fleegle left RE before OP declared war on them ,i think stelios can confirm this !
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Still a weird coincidence he leaves a few hours before RE is attacked, coincidence much?


Confusion.

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If I can be serious again for a moment...

Many of us can recall the problems with sanctions a number of rounds ago. It was used as a broad tool by people who dominated a color, at a time where you couldn't switch teams without a devastating economic impact.

Weren't the Blue rules a framework for the greater change that took place in TE? They were. They virtually eliminated alliance wide sanctions while reserving the option to sanction the nuclear rogues that hurt the game. Of course, that is imposing our (and by our I mean Team Senators of all colors) own version of morality, but the debate against doing such was lost long ago.

This isn't some good ol' boy system as my good friend Fleegle and some others are suggesting. We don't hand out sanctions like its candy. I can't speak for others but Bibs and TPC leadership takes the decision whether to levy sanctions as serious as anything else in TE. People put a great deal of time and effort into their nations on both sides. People with nothing to do with the actions of a sanctioned nation are impacted severely. Making these types of decisions with impunity is not a principle we believe in, period.

To date, this is the [b]only[/b] instance where I have encountered second guessing of a sanctioning decision by my Senator and that, I think, speaks for itself.

With that...

[u][b]I announce that I am creating an exploratory committee for the 1st Office of Black Team Senator, currently held by Secret of Anonymous.[/b][/u] I will take time to pray and consult my family. I plan to make a formal announcement about my decision to run or not soon. :P

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[quote name='bannyfaws' timestamp='1311968333' post='2767134']
i think you will find fleegle left RE before OP declared war on them ,i think stelios can confirm this !
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Tis the truth.

[quote name='Confusion' timestamp='1311968860' post='2767139']
Still a weird coincidence he leaves a few hours before RE is attacked, coincidence much?


Confusion.
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Was is just a few hours? Trust me I wasnt happy.


Edit: I do kinda disagree with the sanctions.

Did people like roi loup ever get sanctioned? Or other like him? Not really.

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Was Roi Loup ever actually dangerous to anyone besides himself? I think the prospect of a competent rogue might actually be somewhat unique in recent TE history. (Disregarding those who are just undeclared combatants, since they're not exactly true rogues.)

As an aside, Fleegle pulled his weight with TPC last round. Duck wars, he does not.

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[quote name='Cellardoor' timestamp='1311987246' post='2767355']
I don't know if this will ever happen again, but I completely agree with Confusion.

Going to go take a shower now.
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I am noting that in my journal :)

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[quote name='Fleegle' timestamp='1311927531' post='2766843']
This is my last 'political' statement on the thread - ALL others, if any, will be War related !!
[/quote]

^ This ^

[b]I'm not going to get drawn into a war of words, the post my 'quote' comes from states all I intend to say.[/b]
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Other than

[quote name='paul711' timestamp='1311952377' post='2766967']
That is why people should go to the BLUE sphere, it is sanction free and in the odd situation where a sanction is or was applied OP senators will remove them.
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I didn't know that (about the Blue Sphere)
Thanks for the info, I have a LOT of respect for OP - action, not words (Fark)

[quote name='Clash' timestamp='1311962237' post='2767066']
Fleegle, if you haven't voted yet switch teams.
If your trade circle hasn't voted yet, all of you switch teams.
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Thanks for the advice, but I had already voted
(For someone who claims to be my friend (and my friends friend) - yet has posted against me twice on this thread)

[quote name='Confusion' timestamp='1311961701' post='2767058']
Fleegle, you're a joke.[/quote]
^ This ^ from the biggest joke in TE :lol1:

[quote name='Confusion' timestamp='1311961701' post='2767058']
For one, why did you leave RE and avoid fighting OP?[/quote]
Stelios HAS answered that and he or ADude (who investigated thouroughly :rolleyes: ) can also confirm that
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[*]it was 24 hrs before OP attacked
[*]I had Valid reasons
[*]I had 3 Attacking slots full
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[quote name='St Mungo' timestamp='1311969637' post='2767151']

Please Pm me Next Winning Lottery Numbers. :blush:
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4, 7, 11, 19, 23, 41 (UK ONLY)
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Thanks too to Bannyfaws for his support on this thread.
Bannyfaws knows me and his post ...

[quote name='bannyfaws' timestamp='1311928655' post='2766846']
ive got to agree with fleegle ,unlike so many other guys that sit at number 1 ,hes not trying to hide ,hes taking it to them , not trying to chase a flag .

the games about war ,why prosecute someone for doing what the games all about !

THIS STINKS :(
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... is Bang on !

Fleegs

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