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Posts posted by Bob Sanders
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When GOONS was attacked it was one trigger happy FAN member.
Way off man. Solie who was Server of the Poisoned Kool-Aid ordered the attacks which resulted in GOONS members getting hit less than a week before the FAN war. I know, I was there and I saw the thread on the FAN forums. Those wars were still ongoing when FAN was hit.
Everyone in GOLD at the time was given the exact orders you quoted. I remember it exactly because I was a newb at the time and didn't know Thomas20 was our premier whom posted the orders. I remember it that specifically.I remember lots of GOLD members straight out attacking violators with no diplomacy or waiting period. Wasn't a member so I don't know what the orders were but they weren't being followed if that is the case. GOLD was ordered to let FAN handle any cases involving WUT members.
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Remember everyone
YN5= Bad evil policy
Revenge Doctrine= prosperous and selfless benevolence
Just shut up now. I was there when Solie ordered attacks on the GOONS less than a week before we got hit. No policy is good with hotheads like that at the helm. Last I saw he is still in .gov which speaks to FAN's infinite wisdom.
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3- noWedge'll pop back up. The Cyberverse will shudder.
Sadly he would be out of my range.
I have a list of two also although Valhalla isn't on mine.4-Two alliances will finally get what they deserve. This is a private wish. No, I am not talking about NPO. They are nowhere near as evil as we all want to think they are. -
Well, I disagree, because allowing small CN nations running around with nukes is a pure nightmare for other players, including me. Also, your suggestion post is in the wrong section.
Like this guy? http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_d...ation_ID=166955
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http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_d...Nation_ID=30306
I think I have a pretty good nation, I was just wondering if there was any way that I would be able to make it better, such as if I should change up my trades etc...
More casualties.
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Wanna join TDSM8?
No thanks. :jihad:
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If you're not wearing a tag on IRC, how am I supposed to know if you're in an alliance or not?
1. Ingame search.
2. General knowledge about the game.
Seriously though, you likely will never find a recruit on IRC unless you have a previous friendship with them. Ridiculous strategy.
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42.
You have been beaten.
There we have it folks.
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The escalation was both of your faults because you both made choices that the other reacted badly to. The messages were just pathetic though, likely because the guy sending them is a big baby. That said, back when I raided it would have turned into a several day war(minus the messages) every single time. No way I would have taken that peace offer after being hit with air and CMs. The only people taking that peace offer are infra-huggers.
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This was a good read.
Fiction is always interesting.
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To be blatantly honest I think it is rather unintelligent to have to say sorry for accepting a nation just because a large alliance does not like that nation. Am I wrong to think that Genesis and MCXA are not treaty in any sort of way? I could understand if they held a treaty together making this post, but if not then why should KP leave Genesis? I can understand apologizing for KP's actions of trolling if they accusation of trolling holds water.
Any alliance that is remotely politically active would realize that accepting Penchuk instantly means you are hostile toward MCXA. Anyone that disagrees with that is smoking something rather strong.
One another note I hope to see MCXA "dancing on Penchuk's grave" shortly.
Couldn't happen to a more deserving guy.
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Just remembered I had these in my photobucket. Not really sure why but yeah. Some of the old sanctioned alliance masks from the old forums. >_>
I wore those 3 in reverse order. The first \m/ tag was never actually used as the official mask iirc.
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Then explain why no "nazis" have ever been banned? You know less about Black Friday than you know my friend.
The first part of your post is irrelevant. As to the second part I know that the bannings were based on communications that did not take place on these boards which is all I need to know to refute your claim.
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Take any all quotes to admin from any offsite you can find. He can't ban you for them. It's against the ToS. Try again.
I'm sorry, did you miss what happened in the weeks leading up to the UJW? Quite a few players were banned for stuff that happened on offsite forums and IRC.
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They were all talking as if CN was a game, which, OOC, it is.
If by "talking about the game" you mean "saying things which are bannable if their true identy was known" then yes I agree.
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So, you're saying if I sign up for the "world that should not be named world" and sign into The Pacific forums there and troll the NPO, it would be justified because the NPO doesn't own those forums, but rather, The Pacific does?
Lest you forget this was a thread created by a member of RoK. Maybe FAN members shouldn't have hijacked a RoK recruiting thread with obscenities toward NPO?
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My post above yours.
You should read it.
Didn't change my mind, sorry. I'm sympathetic to the RL beliefs of FAN, so much so that I joined FAN a long time ago. Now FAN is just a pathetic whining little shell of its former self. This entire thread is like some kind of joke.
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I or another FAN member will be more than happy to put you in touch with AR15's administrative staff in order to determine the party involved.
We are, however, still waiting for any sort of condemnation of such behavior from you. Its delay is speaking volumes. While some of the individuals affiliated with FAN in that thread obviously exhibited rather abrasive behavior as well, because it took place in a non-CN community those individuals are members of, and not a CN community or FAN's own forum, that is a separate issue.
If our members were to deliberately intrude on non-CN communities NPO players in were members of, explicitly and solely to disrupt and harass them, FAN would deal with its members as necessary.
We expect you to do the same.
If you want to hold a conference with FAN Congress to draw up a mutual, consistent OOC-restriction policy that both member bodies agree to abide by, I'm sure that can be easily arranged in order to rectify these issues. The bottom line remains, however, that the membership of FAN encompasses more than just CN, and those people are not - and should not have to be - willing to tolerate this sort of targeted, disruptive harassment in forums and communities that are only vestigially linked or are in fact wholly unrelated to CN - the same as your members should not be forced to endure such.
You claim the authority and power to curtail this sort of behavior. Now do it.
This is part of leadership in the real world, Moo. When somebody deliberately crosses the line singing your theme song at the top of their lungs, you have to fix it.
We're waiting.
He didn't do anything wrong. On the other hand the actions of FAN members in that thread were reprehensible.
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You didn't read either thread, either this one or the linked to, right?
Of course not, being uninformed is a prerequisite for most NPO haters.
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I remember having around 20k casualties on June 18 2007. Current total below:
Number of Soldiers Lost in All Wars. 2,845,370 Attacking + 2,030,288 Defending = 4,875,658 CasualtiesCasualty Rank: Ranked #3 of 28,898 Nations (0.01%)
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Bros, I must say you have come very far since you started. If you would have asked me back in 06, if I thought you would be around this long, I would have said hell no. Good job, you've improved dramatically.
Also, not sure if someone else said it, but I remember when the CM's had a sound each time you launched it! Ha! Beat that.
That was just removed in one of the last couple wars due to bandwidth.
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I only know Machiabelly, Bob Sandwich, you.
Imperator sounds familiar, don't know from where
never heard of strungout or thomas20
Thomas20 is the guy who disbanded GOLD and then hid in peace mode for months afterwards before joining \m/. :lol:
Edit: Link to thread. http://z15.invisionfree.com/Cyber_Nations/...c=72549&hl=
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All governments in CN are to an extent a Democracy, maybe not in name, their leaders all depend on the loyalty and support of their peoples, it just isn't expressed through elections.
And more importantly if you are feeling oppressed by a non-democratic government its very easy to just go join another alliance. In real life that is much more complicated. That in a nutshell is why I support Democracy in RL but oppose it in CN. My #1 rule if I were to join another alliance is that there cannot be regular elections for the top level of leadership in that alliance whether it is an Emperor, Regent, Triumvirate, Council or some other variation. The long term relationships cultivated by leaders are vital to the well-being of an alliance and any change in leadership is a risk. There should definitely be a recourse for removing bad leaders but it should require extraordinary circumstances, not just a loss of popularity.
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I see what you did there...
Shhh, don't tell anyone.
Announcement from the Red Protection Court
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GOLD didn't follow it either. GOLD nations were attacking any violators that were not WUT. IIRC they got into a big dustup with COLD or whatever alliance TimLee was in at the time. I guess that would have been right before TPF formed.