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Wow. Lots of red up there today.

[quote name='Gopherbashi' timestamp='1305162100' post='2710360'] [img]http://i48.tinypic.com/t5gf4j.png[/img] 3 [304] [color=black](+0)[/color] [color=#48D1CC][b]Fark[/b][/color] : 49.97 --> 50.01 [color=green](+0.04)[/color] [/quote] I do believe this is the first time we've been above 50 points, so that's a milestone for us!

[quote name='mhawk' timestamp='1305009534' post='2709517'] Do you guys realize how insanely idiotic it is to have an active grudge on TPF over actions a DIFFERENT alliance (TF) did over 4 years ago. Even if you associated it with Slayer, he hasn't been a member of the alliance for more than two years. Two years. Good luck sparta, mha, fark, rr. Seriously if you hold a dire grudge on us y'all need to get over it, because we're at the point we don't have enough people active from that long ago to even remember what you're talking about. [/quote] You guys are safe, we'd never go out of our way to hit you guys (we've had several legitimate chances, too). You're just not worth it, anymore. And thank you for your well wishes

[quote name='BamaBuc' timestamp='1304994382' post='2709437'] You're right, I'd completely forgotten about that. Though that means they're bickering over things even older than UJW, actually. -Bama EDIT: And yes, it was COLD they merged with. [/quote] Yeah, but I think our betrayal goes a little bit further than the ones Sparta and MHA supposedly committed.

[quote name='Vol Navy' timestamp='1304969003' post='2709154'] I have very little opinion one way or the other on Fark and R&R. Never stabbed in the back by them like with Sparta. Never had a friend stabbed in the back like MHA did to NPO. [/quote] So what you're saying is that the "problem" with Dos Equis is only two of the member alliances, instead of, and I quote you, "this entire bloc?" Got it. Just making sure you weren't over-exaggerating. Anyway, citing the Karma War for reasons why you dislike them? Come on now, that was two years ago, which is an even longer time on Bob. Your panties, unbunch. Grab a beer (or beverage of choice) and relax, for goodness sake.

[quote name='Systemfailure' timestamp='1304940836' post='2709018'] Everyone knows FARK is just R&R's puppet...R&R is just Spartas puppet and MHA runs the whole thing...or at least thats what Myth wants you to think >_> o/ MHAil this already [/quote] Jeez, just tell the whole world, why don't you?

[quote name='Vol Navy' timestamp='1304884398' post='2708682'] That's the problem with this entire bloc. None of you have ever used your massive strength for any kind of independent actions. As of now this entire bloc looks like another PB/DH colony bloc. If you ever prove differently I will come on here and apologize. [/quote] You keep bashing on MHA and Sparta, but what about Fark and R&R? I'm pretty sure both of our alliances are members of this bloc, so what do you think of them? Have we only ever been puppets? [quote name='Hyperion321' timestamp='1304923934' post='2708962'] I still don't understand this misconception that no alliance is respectable until they lose a war. We like winning, and we're going to keep trying to win until the day Admin turns off the lights. Maybe if ya'll stopped finding ways to keep yourselves from winning every single war the story would be a little different. [/quote] This should make Fark one of the most respectable alliances on the planet

[quote name='PrinceArutha' timestamp='1297129562' post='2624892'] No U! It was fun blowing up stuff and most of the people I warred were pretty cool.... Good to see peace I guess.... Now back to boredom. I am disappointed that my requirement of a member from FARK had to drink and then write a beer review on my favorite beer "Piraat" http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/48/156 I was willing to try a beer of choice from a member of an opposing alliance and write a review for them as well..... and I am still willing to as I love to try new beer. So, if anyone has any suggestions and would be willing to swap reviews then let me know. [/quote] Hit up "lostindenver." He said he'll review it.

[quote name='Rebel Virginia' timestamp='1297068354' post='2623844'] [color="#0000FF"]Yeah, like a beer review is any better than PZI or massive reparations. No matter how you put it, Fark is still made up of monsters. Nice job at self-delusion though. Considering I'm master of it myself, you should trust my authority on the subject.[/color] [/quote] lol I can see that you're quite good at self-delusion just by that post. [quote name='Haflinger' timestamp='1297081131' post='2623924'] Alliance members get peace when an alliance gets peace. You're trying to use a war to determine who another alliance is allowed to accept into its ranks. [/quote] But they're not alliance members, they're ghosts.

[quote name='Haflinger' timestamp='1297018725' post='2622408'] Yes, and this is something to be encouraged, not discouraged. If individual nations are viewed as sovereign entities capable of making their own decisions, then they should be allowed to lend their strength to causes that they believe in. What you are trying to do is supplant the individual nation ruler's power to control a nation's destiny, and replace it with an absolute power by alliance leaders to govern over the choices of their members. This is in so many ways a terrible idea, it's hard to even guess where to start. [/quote] Keep grasping at straws. If they can choose their own destiny, they can therefore suffer the consequences of their actions. We're not going to PZI or EZI them. They just have to get separate peace.

[quote name='Rebel Virginia' date='12 June 2010 - 03:52 PM' timestamp='1276372317' post='2335295'] You're more a lapdog to Superfriends than any alliance in particular. However, you're still a lapdog. You've never been an overly independent alliance. You've always moved from one master to another. NPO in WUT, then Polaris and GGA, then NPO again, and now Superfriends. I won't pretend to know the inner workings of Superfriends, but I certainly know VE isn't calling any shots. [/quote] That's certainly true, considering [b]VE isn't in SuperFriends[/b]. They are unable to call any organization's shots that they aren't in. Congratulations to our brothers-in-arms over at GOD, and our good friends over in MK!

[quote name='Kevin McDonald' date='01 June 2010 - 07:54 PM' timestamp='1275436477' post='2319794'] Good to see fireguy back in gov, i knew he couldnt stay away that long [/quote] [quote name='Uralica' date='01 June 2010 - 08:01 PM' timestamp='1275436893' post='2319801'] Fireguy Anyway, congratulations on the successful ele... er... erections O\ Hali? [/quote] [quote name='Mathias' date='01 June 2010 - 08:48 PM' timestamp='1275439693' post='2319856'] Fireguy is back. [/quote] I blame P3. I was perfectly content with semi-retirement, but she had to get back into gov't. and O\ Hali? my supporters.

[quote name='Bob Janova' date='10 April 2010 - 06:20 PM' timestamp='1270938023' post='2255848'] Well, aside from the fact that in other threads we have SG claiming that Crymson's words at the start of that front [i]did[/i] reflect badly on the whole of TOP, we're not talking about words here. We're talking about the actions taken by Polar, the alliance. Those reflect badly on the whole alliance. You can't have this both ways – either you think that the whole alliance matters, and therefore Polar as a whole did all that crazy stuff, or you think only the Emperor matters, in which case getting to know the other members is pointless.[/quote]One of those leaders is democratically elected, while the other is an autocrat. Sure, the members of the autocrat could overthrow said person, but it wouldn't have done much good when so many people already have a negative view of said alliance. On the issue of getting to know the members is, that's just what we do. Those members are going to eventually be the future leaders of an alliance, and it's best to make contact with them as soon as possible, so when one of them gets into power, we're not shocked. Another thing is that we look for a great understanding between the two alliances. Fark is democratically elected, nearly every major position is elected, so our constituency likes to know what we do. We have a fairly open government, and the members usually take an active role in our foreign affairs policy. [quote name='Bob Janova' date='10 April 2010 - 06:20 PM' timestamp='1270938023' post='2255848']I've never liked certain alliances in SG, and they have shown in the last few months exactly why – and the peace terms for the just concluded war are another example of that. You, Fark, may not be taking up the mantle of Hegemony, but other members of SF and C&G are looking like trying it on.[/quote]But this sort has only started after Karma. You can't claim surprise that, say, GOD is acting like they want to rule the world, because that's how they've always acted, even before NPO was deposed. Alliances in CnG I can't comment on because I've mainly focused on SF. [quote name='Bob Janova' date='10 April 2010 - 06:20 PM' timestamp='1270938023' post='2255848']I have not 'suddenly started hating'. For one thing, I don't hate you, and for another thing, it is not sudden – check out my comments on the Echelon peace terms in Karma, or Athens' attack on Ni. Any alliance that shows that kind of behaviour is going to get called out.[/quote]I was not around for the Athens attack on Ni. But again, it seems that this has only started after Karma. And I didn't mean that you hated Fark in particular, just that you've focused your ire at the winners of Karma. [quote name='Bob Janova' date='10 April 2010 - 06:20 PM' timestamp='1270938023' post='2255848']And to be honest I've been in SF sphere for only four months and in that time I've talked to many of you less than I did in Grämlins, so that's not really enough time and interaction to make any further judgements about you.[/quote]I consider Grämlins to be in the SF sphere, or in the least, Fark sphere since they've been a major ally for a long time. [quote name='Bob Janova' date='10 April 2010 - 06:20 PM' timestamp='1270938023' post='2255848']Edit: It's not 'just a NAP', it's a PIAT, and while it doesn't actually contain traditional treaty text, a PIAT would usually be taken to mean mandatory intelligence sharing and financial aid on request. But if you have to downplay a treaty then that should tell you something about the alliance you're signing it with [/quote]A PIAT is little more than just a NAP, honestly. The only functional components are a non-optional non-aggression clause, the non-optional intelligence sharing, and optional aid. It's not very strategically important, hence nothing to really downplay. We just put the relationship that we perceive to already exist onto paper. If we were ashamed to have signed this, firstly, we would not have wasted such great text, and secondly, we would not have signed it.

[quote name='deathcat' date='09 April 2010 - 07:35 PM' timestamp='1270856108' post='2254738'] Shouldn't you be trying to reform IPA or something? [/quote]10/10/10 [quote name='Bob Janova' date='09 April 2010 - 08:41 PM' timestamp='1270860059' post='2254814'] If it was that meaningless they wouldn't have signed it in the first place. Sure, it's not as bad as signing an MDP with Polar right now but it's still a sign of dubious judgement to align yourselves politically with them. The RoK treaty does not bind Polar strongly enough to SF/SG, as can clearly be seen by the fact that they started a war that resulted in them fighting against SF directly. So it makes sense that, as a wildcard, you'd want to bind them in tighter with another treaty. I don't doubt that there are some real friendships behind this, though you've got some really mixed messages in this thread ('This was in the works for a long time' and 'Polar have changed, we have Penguin not Grub now' don't go together well), but after Polar's actions in this war I would have thought that the idea of treatying with them was not such a good one. [/quote] It's not throwing out mixed messages. We've gotten to know the alliance pretty well over the past few months, and the actions of one person, even their former Emperor, shouldn't reflect badly on the entire alliance. Also, why have you suddenly start hating SF/CnG after this past war's outcome was divined? I can understand hating on the hegemony (not a proper noun), but we aren't taking up that mantle, despite being the strongest two blocs and being very friendly with one another. You've been in our sphere long enough to know that we're not evil, so why this irrational hate?

I have a crazy thought: maybe the reason we signed a PIAT with Polar first is because we want to work and build a relationship with them instead of immediately jumping into the deep-end. A PIAT isn't an automatic tie to one side. It's little more than a NAP, and the fact that so many people are complaining about such a relatively useless treaty is really hilarious. I would heed the words of Creole members in this thread, as they have been privy to the entire process between which Polar and Fark has been associating. They can offer so much more than all of the speculation that's been floating around in this thread.

[quote name='Stonewall Jaxon' date='08 April 2010 - 11:08 PM' timestamp='1270782503' post='2253842'] This is some of the most appropriate, and definitely most convenient, grouping I have seen in a while. Congratulations, guys. I know I'm Sith, but if you think I give two !@#$% about either of you and care to spend time pouting, you're sadly mistaken. Though, realistically speaking, I think you really are good for each other. Maybe next time Polaris lets its bulldog mouth overload its puppy dog $@!, Fark will intervene and see it as part of their treaty obligations to forbid Polaris to go to war. I think it's safe to say if this relationship had been around in January, there would have never even been a war. [/quote] Good FSM, it's only a PIAT. How about we wait a week or two before we see the MDP between Fark and Polar* before we start trotting this stuff out? [size="1"]*Note: there is no Fark-Polar MDP in the works. Stop reading into stuff too closely.[/size]

[quote name='Rebel Virginia' date='08 April 2010 - 10:28 PM' timestamp='1270780082' post='2253770'] [color="#0000FF"]So, is this your reward for not helping the Sith out in the war, Polar?[/color] [/quote] Yes, they're rewarded with a PIAT. Brilliant deduction.

Sad, but necessary... I mean, it's been a long time coming!

[quote name='poach' date='02 April 2010 - 12:01 PM' timestamp='1270227679' post='2245470'] Tommy Tutone is a fireman in Beverly Hills? [/quote] ZOMG You found me out

[quote name='Corinan' date='02 March 2010 - 11:04 PM' timestamp='1267589299' post='2212234'] Oh I get it, "erections" instead of "elections." HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! OH MAN THAT IS SOOOOOO FUNNY! YOU GUYS ARE CLEVER!! [/quote] You're really showing your maturity by coming in and !@#$ting on our thread. Congratulations, you just made yourself look like an $@!.

[quote name='Bionic redhead' date='27 February 2010 - 10:39 AM' timestamp='1267285394' post='2206534'] That better? [/quote] Much better, thank you

[quote name='Duncan King' date='02 March 2010 - 10:32 PM' timestamp='1267587359' post='2212198'] Congrats on the elections Fark. Feel free to celebrate by giving me back my land. [/quote] Don't be silly, we have big plans for that land post-war: the world's largest brewery. It will easily become one of the Nine Wonders of Modern-day Bob. Congratulations to the others elected. I look forward to working with you all, some for the first time, others for the fiftieth

It was fun, NSO. Congratulations on peace, and have fun rebuilding.

The same chemical that the rest of the food industry puts into the food so that you don't lose your appetite, and would eat more, therefore, spending more money. :tinfoil:

[quote name='Heft' date='26 February 2010 - 10:22 PM' timestamp='1267241147' post='2205767'] So this thread is totally not about us. CD's review was the best. [/quote] Too bad it doesn't qualify as an actual review. Saying it was good isn't a proper review. And this thread isn't about you. [quote]Fark takes it pretty seriously, since they're unwilling to waive the term. Pretty much any respect I once had for them, stemming back to their struggle against lolgoonies, has dissipated. Pathetic.[/quote] Why don't you go do that t-word thing in another thread? This is for beer reviews that we signed on to do of our own free will, not because we're evil and want to oppress ourselves.