What I'm saying is, Doombird...whatever is an illegitimate alliance. If we are resorting to economic warfare, then your side should be fair game as well. If an alliance declares it's existence to the public, then it is a legitimate alliance, regardless of how many people are in it. To my recollection DBDC never did declare it's existence, because I had no idea they existed until the war started; correct me if I'm wrong.