AmbroseIV

[quote name='Jaiar' timestamp='1321258673' post='2844508'] Congrats. 5 years is a long time. Hope you have 5 more great years. Ambrosev, what's up with your signature? Bambi is a boy. It's a favorite movie in the nation of Asysias, btw. [/quote] ... as one of the very, very few people to recognise that, you can be my new best friend

[center][img]http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/g364/AmbroseIV/CN/flag.png[/img][/center] [center][img]http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i71/zenster80/RnR/lesig.png[/img][/center] On November 14 2006, [url=http://s15.invisionfree.com/Cyber_Nations/index.php?showtopic=32845]R&R was born into Planet Bob[/url] amid a time of great excitement and prosperity. Five years on, while many others have come and gone, R&R is both proud and privileged to announce that we’re still here... [center][i][size="4"][b][color="#FF8C00"]... and that we're going to commemorate our 5th birthday by having midly-raucous, wildly-sensible and outrageous (but appropriately controlled) celebrations![/color][/b][/size][/i][/center] With 5 weeks of joyous festivities planned (including the introduction of an R&R Hall of Fame, a 10-alliance recruitment competition, special R&Radio programming [[i]see #RnRadio[/i]] and lots of fun, games 'n competitions [[i]i.e. prizes!!![/i]]), R&R would love to welcome you all to [i][b]not[/b][/i] visit our [color="#FF8C00"][url="http://www.rnr-alliance.org/"][b]forum[/b][/url][/color] and IRC channel ([color="#FF8C00"][b]#RnR[/b][/color]) to keep up to date as these things are announced and happen over the coming weeks - any attempts to do so will be appreciated nonetheless. Seeing as this is a special day, we would like to thank every member of R&R, past and present, for their contributions (no matter how small and/or detrimental ) for helping shape the alliance we have today - we couldn't have done it without you guys... [s]okay, we probably could have but still[/s] you should feel free to catch up and chat: beers are on us! [img]http://www.rnr-alliance.org/public/style_emoticons/default/drinking33.gif[/img] We'd also invite you to wear our pip in order to help us celebrate... but that's [i]slightly[/i] impossible due to clerical issues. So in order to make up for our last 42 pip-free days, we present the following tribute: [center][img]http://i.imgur.com/2MKjo.gif[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/2MKjo.gif[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/2MKjo.gif[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/2MKjo.gif[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/2MKjo.gif[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/2MKjo.gif[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/2MKjo.gif[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/2MKjo.gif[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/2MKjo.gif[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/2MKjo.gif[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/2MKjo.gif[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/2MKjo.gif[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/2MKjo.gif[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/2MKjo.gif[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/2MKjo.gif[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/2MKjo.gif[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/2MKjo.gif[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/2MKjo.gif[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/2MKjo.gif[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/2MKjo.gif[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/2MKjo.gif[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/2MKjo.gif[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/2MKjo.gif[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/2MKjo.gif[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/2MKjo.gif[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/2MKjo.gif[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/2MKjo.gif[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/2MKjo.gif[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/2MKjo.gif[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/2MKjo.gif[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/2MKjo.gif[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/2MKjo.gif[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/2MKjo.gif[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/2MKjo.gif[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/2MKjo.gif[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/2MKjo.gif[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/2MKjo.gif[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/2MKjo.gif[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/2MKjo.gif[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/2MKjo.gif[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/2MKjo.gif[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/2MKjo.gif[/img][/center] (Your move, Almighty Admin ) And finally, we’d like to give a special shoutout to one of our long time members: blanding – as one of our founding members and one of the very few bringing up 5 years in R&R, today is also the day blanding buys his MP and first nuke. This speaks volumes about the commitment and dedication of our members and we’d just like to offer a huge congratulations to blanding on this momentous occasion. (Here’s hoping he gets to use them before our 10th birthday ) [center][b][size="4"]So just to remind y'all again, feel free to [s]not[/s] stop by our forum ([color="#FF8C00"][url="http://www.rnr-alliance.org/"][b]rnr-alliance.org[/b][/url][/color]) and IRC channel ([color="#FF8C00"][b]#RnR[/b][/color]) to catch up and help us celebrate![/size][/b][/center] [center][img]http://i.imgur.com/VBhpc.png[/img][/center] [i]P.S. Sorry NoWai, but thanks for being random :|[/i]

Yay! Congratulations everyone, very nice looking government Harry, Tromp 'n Xione in particular!

Congrats you two - particularly INT!

As much as I knew this was coming, it's still sad to see you Duckies go ... and I also didn't need to be mentioned, but thanks [quote name='The Pansy' timestamp='1320633110' post='2840797'] Rush raiding in 3... 2.... 1..... [/quote] He should. Go Rush, get 'er now!

Congrats to everyone, particularly Mach, I'm sure y'all do well. Oh, aside from Torch. Yeah... cough twice if he's blackmailing you, Liz. [quote name='SpacingOutMan' timestamp='1319165211' post='2829632'] [b]Truth[/b]. And never bring up the topic of X-men around him. He gets... rumbustious. [/quote] That's an understatement.

Poor NoWai... I'll stand down and we can make him VP

Congrats Craig, Trotsky 'n everyone else; TiNT in general - good looking government and I'm sure they'll serve you well! Needs a tiny bit of MutedFaith though... but I won't complain, that'd just be greedy.

Congrats GATO - you've got some good company, particularly our friends in TiNT and ODN, 'n I hope it all goes well for the four of you! [quote name='Soviet Limburg' timestamp='1316983960' post='2808366'] [b]For the [i]New Pacific Order[/i]:[/b] No signatures were received... [/quote] Slackers.

I am very glad to see this - very good people in both TiNT and Hooligans, so it's pleasing to see our allies keeping such good company.

Have you had the (poor) fortune of meeting kata? I think she'd love you guys... You seem perfectly content with, and close to, the relatively few allies you have which is a good thing; if you had hoped to get closer to one alliance in particular through this Q&A, who would it be? [quote name='New Frontier' timestamp='1316807257' post='2806828'] RnR seem like rubes to be completely honest. Not overly intelligent and not overly interesting. [/quote] True story, really. People either find it endearing or infuriating... would you like some moonshine? Silver Empress had the answer I was expecting, though.

Good luck, friends - I hope it's [i]not[/i] smooth sailing and you have a chance to amuse yourselves a little... ... only if that's what you want.

Congrats guys, very nice - they're real purdy-like. Now, you just need to show them off some more

It's nothing to be scoffed at, so I offer a very sincere congratulations on your growth and success. I'm sure it will continue well into the future. [quote name='Sir Paul' timestamp='1314493980' post='2789634'] Unfortunately, we can never to forget the past, but we do know what happens if one does not forgive the past. The Foreign Affairs cadre has asked that I specifically recognize those who have worked to come and find out if Pacifica has taken the learning to heart: Of R&R: DemonSpawn[/quote] He's going to have a smug look on his face for days. Great. [quote name='Sir Paul' timestamp='1314493980' post='2789634'] They also recently won an inter-alliance competition with RnR, TIO, Invicta and TPF. The Order won with 41, narrowly beating RnR with 37.[/quote] We... erm... felt like you needed a win - yeah, that's it. You deserved a win. It suffices to say, we will get you next time.

As far as alliances go, Hooligans are really quite terrib-... wait, I mean wonderful; Hooligans are wonderful and everyone should join because they're great people. Don't know where I got terrible from - must have been thinking of the All Blacks, right Emma?

Rey's name would have been in huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge pink letters if he'd really signed this

Congratumalations! And Rayvon, that TDA merge was mid-2007

... [quote name='Avakael' timestamp='1310129027' post='2752347'] Not buying it. [/quote]

[quote name='MinuteVariance' timestamp='1309587364' post='2746672'] The more you guys post, the worse you make it all sound. If you wanted to announce something, you should have just announced it. This is justification and backpedalling. [/quote] You've graduated from posting incredulous and inaccurate walls-of-text to bumping the thread with (what I'm sure you believe are) witty, persuasive catchphrases. It won't make the slightest bit of difference, but at least you're learning something.

[quote name='MinuteVariance' timestamp='1309517918' post='2745857'] I posted at the start of the war here offering to pay all UINEs reps personally and admitting UINE was at fault. Many of UINE's members came to you and admitted we were at fault throughout the whole thing. We all offered to pay reps in excess of the original amount. You're objectives clearly went beyond those stated above. And EgoFreaky, I cbf quoting your hypocritical paragraphs of contradictory rubbish - but suffice it to say that by asking us to do anything more than fight or pay, you went beyond what you state in your posts here. You sought to change us. You sought to do so over and above the removal of our leader and the payment of reps. You can't go back on what you have already done by 'releasing' us. You are right about one thing though - I don't speak for UINE. I speak for me personally. You missed the opportunities my colleagues and I offered to stand on any kind of moral high ground some weeks ago. So I'm calling you on your bs. Stand up and be seen, you despicable, backpedalling hypocrites. I'll finish by quoting myself in a much more conciliatory frame of mind way back at the start of the war: [/quote] ...actually, I'll interrupt and quote myself too (you've made it a credible thing to do): [quote name='AmbroseIV' timestamp='1309447265' post='2745051'] If it was such an unpalatable outcome, you needed to fight for something when you had a say - kudos for having some balls, but it's little too late in this thread. [/quote] Beyond that, you really don't get the point - the reps weren't the issue. They prolonged everything, but they weren't the issue. It was UINE's conduct throughout the entire incident: One nation raided, reps were settled; four more nations raided, reps were settled; reps were rescinded and AiD was threatened into selling tech to UINE; R&R became involved, etc... 6 months later, you were staring down the barrel. This was about ensuring things were resolved once and for all. And if you think you didn't deserve to be held accountable at some stage, it's beyond naive - it's just stupid. As someone who was in AiD government for the majority of this incident, I find it [i]damn[/i] insulting that after UINE used their relative size and influence to attack and bully us (and spend another 6 months jerking it - to reuse your imagery Minute), you're now spewing vitriol and playing the indignant victim of some wacky social experiment in which R&R wanted to "change" you. I was joking when I called you Keve before, but now I'm not so sure. That's an image you want to purvey - ask anyone. [quote name='MinuteVariance' timestamp='1309527078' post='2745916'] Can I get a tl:dr? Sorry it's just the first sentance was a bit boring. [/quote] You're lucky - if everyone had that attitude then no-one would've read your inane ramblings. Also, no-one talks to my man like that. You watch yourself

[quote name='aboooe' timestamp='1309447866' post='2745060'] Unless you're psychic Matty, how can you presume he has other, more important obligations? [/quote] A couple of UINE guys explained to me after the war why he never made an appearance. But sure, I'll take psychic too

[quote name='MinuteVariance' timestamp='1309442594' post='2745008'] What UINE does and what UINE achieves is the work of the members of UINE and bears no relation to the wishes or actions of RnR - you'll want to take some credit now and in the future I'm sure, but you certainly don't deserve any. [/quote] In my eyes the priority wasn't to help you, it was to resolve the entire situation for AiD - UINE was the one jerking it (since you brought up the metaphor) for over 6 months and R&R just wanted a resolution for their allies. Personally, I couldn't care less what happens to you now. You could fall into a void tomorrow and I would not bat an eyelid, but if getting rid of Keve so the situation could [i]finally[/i] be resolved actually benefits you in the long run, well... yay (I guess...?), but don't worry: I don't think R&R will be keeping tabs on you, let alone seeking any kudos. No-one waltzed into your New Era announcement seeking credit, so I dare suggest you're already wrong. You were in a (self-inflicted) poor predicament* and it's easy to understand any resent at the outcome but (...I wasn't in R&R at the time and unless people were trying to blow smoke up my arse...) I [i]know[/i] you don't speak for everyone in UINE. You had some people who were great to deal with and expressed a regret/dislike of the entire situation without the attitude, but instead of letting UINE move out of Keve's shadow all I can think now is "hey look, Keve is masquerading as someone else " [i]*You begged for peace 5 minutes before the war began. You begged for peace over the two days the war was fought. Several of your members (government included) were vocal [b]here[/b] about how they thought it was probably the necessary outcome. R&R [b]really[/b] didn't want to dump you on your arse and they managed to get Keve out of the picture which really was the only way to guarantee closure. If it was such an unpalatable outcome, you needed to fight for something when you had a say - kudos for having some balls, but it's little too late in this thread.[/i]

[quote name='Hereno' timestamp='1309426927' post='2744932'] [IMG]http://i53.tinypic.com/2cekcar.png[/IMG] Somehow or another, I manage to not have gained any positive opinion for the alliance who ousted another alliance's leader and banned him indefinitely from his own government over an amount of reps that can be paid in one round of slots. It's nice to know that Keve is free to be back in gov now, for a total of a day before he departs this realm. [/quote] Your sympathies for Keve are noted, but you've somehow managed 2+2=19. Since you feel the need to rehash the issue of reps-which only comprised a [i]very[/i] small part of this incident-it is quite amazing that they couldn't be sent out in 6 months, isn't it? And before you go implying R&R has forced someone's departure, Keve was inactive a day before the war and last I heard (9 days after it ended) no-one in UINE had been in contact him - unless he's a psychic I'd suggest he has other, more important obligations.

[quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1309404347' post='2744729'] Keep your ass out of everyone's business and no one will have to see it again. [/quote] Ironic. Well... not quite, but I'm sure you know what I mean.

Truly despicable, R&R. New hegemony ITT. Nah seriously, this is good to see - best of luck moving forward, UINE (in fact, good to see things've been moving so quickly!)