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[quote name='Xavii' timestamp='1283950366' post='2446508'] Didn't really answer my question there, I asked if you feel the same regarding MK? You said you felt that both GOONS and Umbrella deserved to be put down/evicted. Do you feel MK should be put down/evicted? Ontopic : Looks like UOKMB's litte crusade was a huge failure, who would have thunk it. [/quote] No I don't. They didn't disband and surrendered honourably when their allies did bad things.

[quote name='Xavii' timestamp='1283949880' post='2446505'] Ahh yes, we're so evil and Unjust, did you know that MK was in UjP also? Do you feel the same about them? You know, your ally? [/quote] Yes MK are evil. They will probably appreciate that.

[quote name='Xavii' timestamp='1283947918' post='2446494'] You would have to evict us first. Good luck with that. [/quote] If I have to, yes. Both of your alliances are just the remnants of the Unjust Path which was deservedly put down a long time ago and clearly needs to be done again for the infested zombies that escaped from their graves.

[quote name='Locke' timestamp='1283935267' post='2446426'] I wasn't aware that Archon participated in Karma to end tech raids; can you point me to a quote? [/quote] I wasn't aware that I said this, can you point me to a quote?

[quote name='Beefspari' timestamp='1283933920' post='2446417'] They didn't ask for compensation, or even to end the tech raid. My head is still spinning on how you can simultaneously treat 300 people both as rogues and as an alliance. You're saying 300 people are being held responsible for the actions of one person (implying that they're an alliance) but also say they're rogues. I know some people are disputing the UOKMB rogues vs alliance thing, but you can't have both at once. At the very best you could consider ktarthan by himself a rogue and declare on him. I'd enjoy seeing how that turns out. In their DoE they indicated that they don't want reps nor do they want peace. They seem to intend to go out in a blaze of glory, and then I assume fade away since they frequently indicate they "don't care." [/quote] A tiny weedy defenceless man that has been mugged then beaten up by a stronger man can't exactly ask for compensation on the spot can he? There has been plenty of precedence set in the past regarding one nation representing an alliance as a whole as a sufficient reason for war. You sir are at best, a rookie leader.

[quote name='JT Jag' timestamp='1283933434' post='2446411'] Of course, you won't take my word for it because I am a GOONS member and we are by nature a vile and despicable bunch that spend our time at the foreclosed warehouse, dragging down property levels. Why hasn't someone evicted us yet? [/quote] Oh don't worry eviction is coming, very soon and as Almighty Admin is my witness I will do everything in my power to ensure that this happens.

[quote name='nippy' timestamp='1283933050' post='2446402'] Oh, yes, if all 300 nations nuked the guy, then yes...you'd have a point. Also, the only thing you've seen is a single cropped screenshot provided by those with intent to accuse us. If you consider that acceptable evidence, then your opinion is laughable. [/quote] It just needs one nation out of 300 to represent them as a whole because you didn't throw him to the wolves for nuking the victim and neither did you compensate them for the damages they suffered to their nation. Oh don't forget "punitive damages" either!

[quote name='JT Jag' timestamp='1283932707' post='2446400'] Quick question. If you sucker punched a guy in the face, unproked, and then he returned with friends and tried to invade your house two months later, is that self-defense? I mean, it's not a big deal for us because our house is in a gated community in a state with very relaxed concealed-carry laws and we have a kickass security system. But still. [/quote] Quite the contrary, you are all actually a huge group of 11 year old bullies packed together in a mansion that you are squatting in. And you phone your parents to help you out of a sticky situation when 8 angry men turn up at your front door that you can't handle.

[quote name='nippy' timestamp='1283932483' post='2446399'] [color=blue] Don't ever go into law. You'll be laughed right out of the courtroom. [/quote] Are you really sure about that? GOONS attacked this micro-alliance 2 months ago. GOONS nuke first-striked a nation that did not have any nukes. In that case I would say GOONS are an alliance of 300 rogues. no more, no less.

[quote name='nippy' timestamp='1283932089' post='2446390'] Awwwww, now that's a whine! Good lord, son...don't flood your basement. Considering the fact that your post has nothing to do with GOONS being declared on by rogues, I suppose you needed some venue to vent your frustrations. I forgive you. [/quote] The evidence overwhelmingly states otherwise, you are the rogues here not UOKMB.

If Umbrella, MK, GOD, iFOK and VE had any single thread of morality, they all would cancel their treaties with GOONS. They are a danger to Planet Bob with their terrorism against independent nations and micro-alliances. GOONS are destined to suffer a similar fate to their predecessor and every single citizen of Planet Bob knows this, so why delay the inevitable any further and allow them to run among like bullies left unchecked for a while longer? The person I am most disappointed in this whole fiasco is not GOONS, but Archon. Archon fought and stood in the name of upholding morals in the Karma War and now look what you have become, allowing allies to do exactly the same thing that instigated you to start a crusade. It's not too late to fix things you know Archon but we can't stand for this !@#$ from GOONS any longer.

[quote name='Heinlander' timestamp='1283874231' post='2445378'] The $90mil we're getting as reps from NSO/Corinan says otherwise. And we didn't even [i]want[/i] those. Most of our members would rather go to war with NSO. It's practically appeasement. [/quote] Keep on living in cuckoo land and believing in your delusions of grandeur if you wish, I'm off to do some errands.

[quote name='Heinlander' timestamp='1283873755' post='2445368'] Then how do you propose that UOKMB ruined it? If our reputation among people we generally loathe is reduced while our allies cheer us on then it's not really a moral victory for them is it? [/quote] Reading comprehension is your friend. GOONS didn't have any credibility in the first place before this war took place.

[quote name='Heinlander' timestamp='1283873506' post='2445360'] Our allies all love us for this, so if you were trying to destroy our credibility you failed profoundly. MK and Umbrella couldn't wait to jump on open slots and you're assuming that this whole thing is bad for our image? We're the Goon Order of Oppression, Negligence and Sadism. Its right in the name. Your feeble opinions are like stray dogs barking in a dirty alleyway, hungry and unloved. [/quote] I'm not really sure your alliance had any credibility to begun with.

[quote name='Sardonic' timestamp='1283872949' post='2445348'] Why should we though? Are we morally obligated to? Please explain this bizzare line of reasoning. [/quote] You're correct, However it doesn't stop making you and your alliance look weak.

[quote name='Beefspari' timestamp='1283872554' post='2445340'] I wonder if that means if a 5000 NS person declared war on Umbrella that would make Umbrella a terrible alliance. [/quote] No because Umbrella has stronger nations that are untouchable so thus they win by default.

[quote name='Beefspari' timestamp='1283868487' post='2445258'] Um, all I did is point out that our alliance is mostly lower-tier nations. Essentially what I said is that the people who attacked were out of range of the majority of our nations. I guess that makes us terrible? [/quote] Yes it does. You lead an alliance of weak zombified nations.

Why not? They can't touch me over the internet so I don't really see any harm as most of them seems to be good players anyway..

Promising government I must say and I expect to hear good things about Goby. Good Luck!

Neutrality is deception! They are just biding their time. Although I must agree with the fine gentlemen saying the the GPA has a ridiculous turnover of government.

[quote name='Saint Burke' timestamp='1283287265' post='2437369'] Hello, I have both Lumbar and Uranium. I have 3 trade slots open and am interested in the following resources: Aluminum Gold Silver Water Rubber Iron Please send me a message or trade offer if you have the following resources and are interested. I will remove needed resources from this list as I acquire them to keep it up to date. Thanks in advance and take care. http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=421885 [/quote] Why don't you get a harbour, then drop your remaining sole trade and join this trade circle. The benefits far outweigh for a trade circle as they are very stable and long term. You won't get that with individual trading.

What did you make of the \m/ situation last week and how they could have approached it better?

[quote name='Peggy_Sue' timestamp='1283143706' post='2435498'] Would the leaders of all alliances entertain the idea of having a Reparations Summit with the goal of agreeing to discuss war reparations? [/quote] I doubt it to be honest, there are far too many selfish leaders for this to happen.

MK NpO NPO RoK STA Honourable mentions to Umbrella, Poison Clan, Fark and FOK Everyone else are just lapdogs to be honest..

[quote name='Sandwich Controversy' timestamp='1283114289' post='2434925'] Not really, no. DAWN started the war at 80+k avg and ended it with about 12k. Golan1st started at 150k and within a few weeks had a tiny, tiny nation. It was probably the most disastrous military performance from a so-called "elite" alliance I've ever seen. Our upper tier (actually the whole alliance tbh!) was a paragon of excellence. [/quote] Umbrella is no DAWN, I guarantee you they could probably take on MK alone despite having 140 less members.