Charles Stuart

[quote name='Ardus' timestamp='1358781186' post='3082269'] It is not Anarchy Inc's place to make that decision, rather it is for the presently uninvolved outside allies. Or do you claim the power to unilaterally declare a direct MDoaP with mere proximate allies in the event of war? I'm sure they will all appreciate that. [/quote] What makes you think the mere proximate allies aren't looking for a way into this war? You of all people should know best that where there is a will there is a way

[quote name='natas31' timestamp='1358779263' post='3082236'] So you are saying that even before the war is fought, Tronix is our new overlord? The new hegemony has already begun. In your DoW you can now dictate who the otherside declares war against. You clearly need to learn how wars work and the politics behind them. Hope that answers your question. [/quote] Nobody said who you can and can't declare against, they just stated what the consequences would be.

[quote name='magicninja' timestamp='1358749452' post='3081884'] 6 years ago was fun times. Don't remember the last time someone was scared enough to use such a tactic......long time. Whatever. I don't think anyone over here really cares. [/quote] It's as valid a tactic as peacemode in my opinion. Basically nearly every treaty, bloc and agreement within this realm was triggered by the declarations today, if the parties wish to activate them is another matter entirely though.

[quote name='Unknown Smurf' timestamp='1358746209' post='3081697'] Best of luck to ODN against NATO. I don't understand the reason for this though; it pulls in people you don't want pulled in right? [/quote] It pulls in any ally of the alliances that attacked umbrella. An attack on one is an attack on all.

An attack on one is an attack on all.

Someone didn't get the memo that an attack on one is an attack on all.

All this !@#$ talking makes me want to join NSO again for a piece of the action.

[quote name='Umar ibn Abd al-Aziz' timestamp='1358737125' post='3081477'] I'm not arguing with the CB, man, I was expressing a preference for straight-shooting over !@#$%^&*-peddling. Do what you gotta do and I'll see you lot on the field shortly. [/quote] Phew, what a relief. People were worried about not getting their goons fix.

[quote name='Ardus' timestamp='1358734904' post='3081447'] I prefer Professional Organization [/quote] The presence of goons precludes such title from being used. Sorry

Anybody would think smurf is a one man wrecking machine instead of being a liability the way he is carrying on.

[quote name='Neo Uruk' timestamp='1358733953' post='3081435'] Considering he actually talked about how glad he was to steal your slot (apparently) this is hilarious. Also that's one of three. I expected better of you at the least, Timberland. MK isn't in the same bloc as Umbrella? BFF replaced them in DinoHouse! [/quote] Bloc, treaty, gang, cohort, coalition...semantics.

[quote name='Neo Uruk' timestamp='1358732698' post='3081413'] So if that was the complete reason for war why aren't DT, MK, and NG at war with you? [/quote] Probably because they aren't members of a bloc in severe need of a stern talking to I would assume?

[quote name='Neo Uruk' timestamp='1358732152' post='3081406'] That is exactly what you did. But you didn't admit that it was a suspicion, so yours is more !@#$%^&*. So yes, it was more valid. [/quote] I didn't see a suspicion of umb trying to fill one of their former member's slots. I saw these slots actually filled.

[quote name='Neo Uruk' timestamp='1358730807' post='3081384'] DH-NPO was because of suspicion NPO was going to join in on PB-NpO later on, which would reduce the chance of a PB victory. I'm sure we all know Dave War was to capitalize on an opportunity to keep a coalition split from happening. Neither of those reasons sounds very lulzy to me. Lol bragging about anarchy stats in a nuclear war [/quote] Would you say going to war over a suspicion is a more valid CB than the one used in this conflict?

[quote name='Neo Uruk' timestamp='1358722812' post='3081265'] Useful pile of stats means they were relevant solely as a meatshield but ok Lol at people being impatient. This isn't SF, we aren't watching our blocmate get destroyed. We are laughing at the ineptitude of the enemy to pick a solid grouping to attack with, actually! [/quote] Feel free to continue laughing. Don't let umb's plummeting NS stop you.

[quote name='Amossio' timestamp='1358687920' post='3080944'] hahahaha maaaaan, don't worry I'm sure you'll get an opportunity charles, until then sir godspeed! [/quote] I hope so, I will give umb some props, you lot do have some impressive nation builds and after having to put up with GOONs continuously for the last few wars I am keen for a challenge. If I have more than 0 infra left at the end of this you are doing it wrong

[quote name='Amossio' timestamp='1358687693' post='3080941'] charles don't forget buddy, me and you son, dancing kk ! [/quote] You have no idea how sad I was that due to OOC activities involving fish that I couldn't nuke all these umb nations in range of me without an SDI.

[quote name='Neo Uruk' timestamp='1358666186' post='3080821'] I know. It's mind blowing. And yet, you're the one stuck in a coalition punching far, far above its weight. Who do you think made a better niche for itself? GOONS, who is still sitting in the winners circle? Or poor pitiful TIO, who has as many people looking at them as a threat to Umbrella as NATO or? NSO [/quote] Please call us pitiful when your coalition (if the rest of them ever enter..) surrender to us either one week, one month or one year from now. Thanks.

[quote name='Hiro Nakara' timestamp='1358601437' post='3079864'] Are you saying they dodge global wars? [/quote] Umm no? I'm saying they always go to war a few weeks before the major ones break out like a sort of prophecy.

[quote name='Hereno' timestamp='1358609267' post='3079939'] What is wrong with being a "silly commie"? :colbert: [/quote] Nothing unless you are tied to them

[quote name='Laslo Kenez' timestamp='1358602965' post='3079878'] No, I'm blaming NPO for being mightily enthusiastic about putting their allies through a pretty awful time so that they can make a play for more power. And lying, that too. [/quote] So kind of like trying to use ties to TIO to cloud the treaty web you mean? Or does putting TIO in a difficult position not really count? [quote]<Laslo> We need some complicating treaties <Laslo> Our recent TIO treaty is useful in that regard[/quote]

[quote name='magicninja' timestamp='1358601147' post='3079862'] The issue isn't with what my allies in NPO and TIO have done. I'm fine with it. They did what they felt they needed to. I wish them the best. The criticism is for those few individuals claiming this to be the best CB they have ever seen in all the history of Bob. It really isn't. It's good enough so I'm good with the war. I've fought for CBs shakier than this but there have been better CBs with more concrete proof. So all I want is for things to be called as they are and not overblown...in either direction. AI and pals I think do realize its a good enough CB but need to realize it isn't perfect and Umb and pals need to realize that while its not perfect alot of the evidence shows something fishy was happening. [/quote] I agree, I feel like a silly commie for attacking over the actions of rogues and how the situation was handled but oh well. It is a legit CB howver and not some fabricated nonsense like what MK uses so I will support it. Edit OOC/RL: I should really say "will be attacking" when I get back to a PC.

NSO always seems to go to war a few weeks before a major one breaks out... It's a trap!

[quote name='magicninja' timestamp='1358600007' post='3079855'] I don't give one !@#$ about DH. My CnG pals can tell how much I like this whole situation. I've said it a few times that I'm inclined to agree that it was done purposefully with the individuals in Umb knowing full well what they were doing. The CB, as it is, is certainly actionable enough...certainly when laid side by side with more than a few in our shared history. There is just no real smoking gun and as far as I can tell its all decent circumstantial things plus some past things by Umb that have seeded contempt. I'm fine with that. It's just not the CB of the century some try to make it out to be....as far as I've seen..perhaps there is more to the story. Actionable and valid? Sure I doubt I'd feel much different in AI's shoes but it isn't the best ever used. That's all I'm getting at. [/quote] I'm sure this criticism should be taken into a private channel seeing as you being a gov member represent GATO

[quote name='Neo Uruk' timestamp='1358578163' post='3079701'] The arrogance from the side who has the disadvantage after having a pair of its top 3-5 alliances already in is !@#$@#$ priceless. Well done on kicking your own asses and being proud doing it. DH lives to fight. You've brought a fight to us. We are far better at warring than you !@#$% who have sat half the wars since karma out or those who put their upper tiers into peace mode. We are some of the most efficient and most relentless alliances in this realm. We aren't going to fall to a bunch of clowns just yet. [/quote] When was the last time umbrella had a decent fight? I know you can send aid like a boss but sorry to say but that isn't going to be much good this time around. Face it, your time is up, the show is ended so at least have the dignity to take it with an element of decency.