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If laughing at the size of our nations makes you feel better while you sit in peace mode and watch as we rip your alliance a new one makes you feel better then by all means- laugh away darlin.

We can only guess where else it might've been

I love Puff the Magic Dragon!. Best of luck to both parties, although with Puff on your side I don't think you'll need it.

Interesting to see Jack Tarr back up there. I look forward to seeing you grow outside of peace mode now that NPO doesn't have as many slots to spare.

It always sucks to lose members, but on the bright side it shows who your most active, dedicated members are. Continued gl in the war o/ STA

While I'm not in any position to offer you a government position, the NSO has 2 governemnt positions open at the moment and if you're willing and put in the work, there's no reason why you couldn't get one of the positions. I'd like to know why you left Ragnarok during wartime though before I said anything further.

Where's the both option?

Congrats and good luck in your new position The Great Sam!

You certainly haven't said that an alliance should give up its sovereignty, I'll grant you that, but you seem to believe that because an enemy alliance honors their treaties, fights for their alliances and isn't one of the "prime henchman" they shouldn't have terms emplaced on them. While you won't hear any disputes from me about that being honorable and commendable behavior, as far as I'm concerned any enemy that raises arms against my alliance, regardless of how honorable he/she may or may not be, should be punished accordingly. Were I in MOON's boots I'd feel that I'd given my enemy a very lenient offer (I take exception to the apology they seem to have requested because that's going a bit too far) once and that this courtesy shouldn't be extended a second time save for extreme circumstances. Asserting that MOON or anyone else should extend white peace to an enemy simply because they honored their treaties, were in the periphery of the NPO and because of the nature of this war is absurd and is a severe limitation on an alliances ability to flex their sovereignty. Your tacit support of the notion of unconditional white peace for smaller alliances is what I rail against, because at the end of the day an alliance that offers this is basically giving up their soviergn right to act independently and submitting to your notion of Karma, which in my opinion is not right. They wouldn't go to so much trouble if they were looking for white peace (I admit I haven't read the whole thread so I'm assuming that this is what MOON did the second time around), they would go to so much trouble for getting some kind of deal out of it, which is precisely what they got. edit: bad quoting skills

You seem to be assuming that they should've offered white peace the second time, which they are under no obligation to do so. What they offer as a sovereign alliance to another alliance is entirely up to them and shouldn't be up to Karma; I find it really rather ironic that you seem to think that all alliances fighting on the side of Karma should bow down to the wishes of Karma in this matter, when that kind of pupeteering is what they're supposedly fighting against. Until logs are released of MOON's negotiations and not just logs of what someone else is saying happened, we really can't be sure of MOON's motives. Personally, it seems entirely plausible to me that MOON might've been playing good cop-bad cop- not with SSSW18 mind you, but with Karma.

Logs of extortion please? For all we know, MOON was just trying to barter a good deal for their alliance or play good cop-bad cop.

I smells a loophole here.

If the poll answers be edited to remove NAAC, I respectfully request that \m/ be replaced with it.

I was just skimming through the DOOM nations that are currently at war and I couldn't help but notice that only one nation isn't in anarchy yet. Big shoutout to HHAYD who has single handedly stayed out of anarchy, put the nation he attacked in anarchy and one of his attackers in anarchy. Pretty impressive to say the least. o/ HHAYD

There will come a time when you shall be crushed. On that day, remember king601, because he has helped to show us the quality of your character and you have been found wanting.

Everyone who has the ability to post has the right to express their opinions in a rule-abiding manner. Just because you don't care about his opinions on ZI/PZI doesn't mean that everyone in CN shares that view and, quite frankly, if you don't like it you can go piss up a rope.

Peace isn't fun. War is. Let the war continue. RAWR!

Sounds like someones jealous he's not a GOON :lol:

Also, it's not like you couldn't wait for Slayer to get out of peace mode.. From your other posts, it seems like you're willing to do this for a while so it's not as though you couldn't have waited to get your war against him in. That aside, I doubt you really care about who is actually at fault so long as you can attention whore on these forums, you're happy. As for the point of my previous posts, I was merely saying that I dissaprove of your methods.

Do you think FAN should be allowed into talks should Pacifica surrender?

Ugh how could I be so foolish? Clearly when you're up against a tank only a fool would attack the treads when you can aim for the main plating!

I'm liking your style. You're pissed off at the policy-makers in TPF so you gear up to target their mid range nations, who will be targeted simply because they're in TPF and are in range, irregardless of their role in policy decision. It's like beating up someones friends because you don't like them. Very impressive indeed. Keep on fighting the good fight bud! o/ Crohl

Hitting 1 million is a big deal. Congradulations o7

Well, good luck...To be quite frank though I'm not sure how well this will work out for you considering how small the red team is and the possibility that NPO might sanction you.

I guess I'll just have to reserve judgement for the time being, although what information I've come across publically doesn't seem to indicate that TPF or anyone else who broke their treaties with NPO was acting on the up and up. (TORN getting shafted is a different matter)