El Hefe

[quote name='the masheen' date='19 February 2010 - 03:52 AM' timestamp='1266573179' post='2191817'] and this is where I stopped taking YOU seriously, hefe. I'm sorry, why did you stop talking all of a sudden? Did we break your concentration? [/quote] OOC: I'm sorry, I was studying for my midterm. [quote]Please continue...you were saying something about how you "know" what happened.[/quote] Yeah, I was. [quote]Oh...oh you were finished?[/quote] No I wasn't. [quote]So until you stop oozing ignorance and assuming ignorance of others, you should educate yourself with said information and get back to us.[/quote] I have seen all the information. I even asked for the logs from Warbuck in hopes of seeing what it is that ADI sees... And frankly it didn't add up to vindication for Warbuck. ADI's handling of the situation went from bad to worse throughout in my opinion.

[quote name='John Warbuck' date='18 February 2010 - 08:53 PM' timestamp='1266548028' post='2191060'] Any witness will be proven true in court until he or she is cross-examined.[/quote] This is not a court of law, but a court of public opinion. You are "guilty" until proven "innocent" here. Thus far, I've seen nothing from ADI - Warbuck especially - that would "prove them innocent" so to speak.

[quote name='the masheen' date='18 February 2010 - 07:19 PM' timestamp='1266542353' post='2190798'] Thanks for enlightening my ignorant soul [/quote] You are quite welcome.

[quote name='the masheen' date='18 February 2010 - 06:49 PM' timestamp='1266540550' post='2190707'] Judging by your posts, I have never seen such a stubborn, arrogant, [b]hypocritical[/b] excuse for a person in my life. You epitomize all that is being a one track thinker. Apparently anyone who disagrees with you is simply an ignorant baffoon. In stubborn fashion, you've decided to run away from the discussion upon a conflicting view point, a parallel to what a child would do. Why don't you quit assuming that you are always right and maybe [b]OWN UP TO YOUR MISTAKES[/b]. Maybe you don't know the whole story and that the opinions you've formed were conjurred up too hastily. Perhaps you could even [b]STOP BLAMING PEOPLE[/b].[/quote] And here's where I stopped taking you seriously. [quote]I'm not pretending that I know exactly what happened[/quote] That's where you should have stopped. [quote]That is, anyone who wasn't really there when it happened, can't say for sure what did happen or assume with 100% percision what, why, and how an event went down.[/quote] We know what happened. Please try again, sir. [quote]Unless you are capable of reading Warbuck or Hoo's mind[/quote] It's not that hard actually... Warbuck is continually trying to lie and squirm his way from the sticky situations he's gotten himself into, and Hoo is just oozing awesomeness. [quote]Quit falsifying ADI as a credible alliance... [/quote] ADI destroyed ADI's credibility. Listen to yourself and stop blaming other people.

[quote name='Lord Tri' date='17 February 2010 - 02:36 PM' timestamp='1266438988' post='2187904'] Is it real? Is it fake? Who knows.[/quote] I guarantee that is a fake. Hoo is definitely a Jacob Black kinda guy

[quote name='John Warbuck' date='17 February 2010 - 01:58 PM' timestamp='1266436702' post='2187841'] Hoo won't be satisfied with any option that allows ADI to [OOC]play the game[/OOC] in peace.[/quote] In case you haven't noticed, you are playing the game - it's called politics. You've made your maneuvers, and they've lead you to the point where you will be attacked. You talk about Hoo having choices - you had your choices to make Warbuck, now you have to live (or die) with them.

Glad to have you with us ROCK. Kill it with fire. o/

[quote name='memoryproblems' date='10 February 2010 - 11:10 PM' timestamp='1265865027' post='2173982'] Echelon has done its fair share of things, some good, some bad, but I checked, [b]I can't find a member of Echelon who ever did an half-assed job for their alliance during a dire time of need[/b] and directly afterwards defecting to the enemy. So obviously, with our faults, we are still more honorable then you.[/quote] I'm sorry, but I'm laughing my $@! off at the fact you had the gall to say this to me with a (I'm assuming) straight face. On that note, this is very much not related to the OP, and we should not divert the thread further. Neo Anglia has already been told he can reach me if he ever wants the whole story. -El Hefe, Wearer of the Thongs

[quote name='x Tela x' date='10 February 2010 - 10:33 PM' timestamp='1265862780' post='2173905'] Isn't RoK at war? About time to jump ship, isn't it? [/quote] This argument was used last time. Seriously - I waited until I had no cash barely any infra, and even after I had stated supporting the surrender terms (to which I would have had to pay into the tech btw). After both RL events, and OOC frienships changing I finally resigned my position then left a few days later. [quote name='EvilCam' date='10 February 2010 - 10:38 PM' timestamp='1265863086' post='2173916'] LOL. Yeah El Hefe, shouldn't you be surrendering and delivering yourself as part of the surrender terms? [/quote] I'm rather sure you weren't even there when this happened... therefore I'm rather certain you're speaking from your behind right now. [quote name='SilvioArjunza' date='10 February 2010 - 10:39 PM' timestamp='1265863141' post='2173918'] You are quite the bold mule to go mocking Echelon[/quote] Frankly, these days it doesn't take much boldness to mock Echelon. I'd honestly thought people had gotten tired of it until they made the post shedding their surrender terms. [quote]Should I point out that you were a Congress member, and your signature is on One Vision? How does that say about your willingness to stand by your allies, Hefe?[/quote] At the time 1V was signed, yes I was a congress member. Later I became a Director. What does my signing the 1V treaty have to do with standing by allies? If you'll remember Echelon declared war during the Karma conflict via its 1V ties. [quote]I really wouldn't call your former alliance-mates idiots, when you did such an eloquent job insuring they are what they are.[/quote] I don't recall making the claim that they are idiots. Please point me to the place where I said this.

[quote name='memoryproblems' date='10 February 2010 - 05:44 PM' timestamp='1265845498' post='2173414'] about ∞x as long as you we're honorable (and they were at war for 3 days), but hey, who am I to judge.[/quote] Don't even try to talk to me about honor. Echelon are about the last people I want to hear about honor from. I made a simple post about how long your (now former) allies gave their support for you - which was incredibly short, lets be honest - and you try to make it into something. You guys have a bone to pick with me, either do something about it or kindly back off. -El Hefe, Wearer of the Thongs

Well that lasted long. Nice terms though

[quote name='gantanX' date='08 February 2010 - 08:59 PM' timestamp='1265684370' post='2169593'] We would like to thanks to all of our opponents, because none of this would happen without their gracious help Have a nice day... [/quote] You're welcome! NEW have definitely been fun opponents - thank you for that. -El Hefe, Wearer of the Thongs

For some reason, I find myself liking this announcement. Let's have some fun NEW

Are you that dense? Anyone with a fifth grade reading level can tell you those words do not mean the same thing.

An argument for a different place Neo. I will say that my leaving Echelon had just about squat to do with things 'looking scary' and more to do with OOC reasons than than anything. I'd have left before losing all my infrastructure if that was the case.

I think it's a very accurate interpretation, given that this is a DoS and you are the author.

Keep your crappy beer. I'll drink to the Kings with Captain Mo.

But... if we run you out of the game, how can we blow you up?

It has been done before quite a few times actually. NV are a classy bunch. OOJ, look forward to working with you. -El Hefe, Wearer of Thongs

It's been over 3 years since I started, so I don't know what sort of welcome message CN gives you, but I know in other games I've tried the system sends you an auto message that gives you hints about where to start - like finding a clan or giving you a general "basic growth advise" shpeel that helped you get through the first couple days without having to flounder around or even needing an alliance to tell you how to do the most basic things. Also, one thing I've consistently disliked about starting other games is the fact that unless I play for a month I can do jack-all. It's really boring to not be able to even explore basic parts of the game (like buying things etc) until you've already gotten into the game.

Hey TOP! I heard Gramlins talkin trash about your momma!

Nice one TT! o/

They're usually called MDoAP's nowadays. Can't say I disagree with UPN's move here.

I am curious as to how Keve feels about this announcement... As well, bacon is delicious. The only acceptable reason for not allowing your population to eat bacon is to hoard it for yourself.

Not to troll, but doesn't article 6 basically make this MDP as effective as the TPF/PC NAP?