junkahoolik

thank you very much guys!! we owe you one!!

congrats IRON!! here's to another year

[quote name='Ertyy' date='18 April 2010 - 01:03 AM' timestamp='1271541801' post='2264274'] That would all be very persuasive were Gre a democracy. But it isn't. [/quote] democracy or not, actions undertaken by the members of any regime say a lot about that regime and, mostly, about the feelings of the members of said regime. i for one doubt any alliance will stand for a long time if the leadership will give the general membership what they need (which can be and usually is different from what they want or think they want). but don't worry, you will change your mind about the war once your pixies are at stake, and not just some other peoples pixies

whut is this and when did it happen??

[quote name='Lord Curzon' date='15 March 2010 - 07:16 AM' timestamp='1268630190' post='2226075'] hehe, sorry I had to [/quote] he also said MK is one of those ebil japanese imperialists the shame... odd considering japan was on the other side of the war though

drai, what he meant was underlying that everything CnG does is right and everything others do is wrong. for instance, TOP shouldn't have attacked with IRON and should have just stayed out of the war and assist IRON after IRON got beaten, CnG is morally correct in everything it does since it "lead" KARMA and, last but not least, we activated only our mdp's and such because we were defending(which i'm pretty sure is a blatant lie) and i don't care about the fact that we would have been the attackers a few days after. now, if someone on CnG's side could provide some evidence that you really wouldn't have entered the war if IRON had entered, i for one would be on my marry way. but can you, really??

i'd say go for no2. it's a good pip imo.

people who say TOP&co should be kept at war forever (or until their tech runs out) are harmless?? you sir have a wacky definition of the term harmless. i'd comment on the you being the defenders in this conflict part but... heh... it's like talking to walls. though i do see the gains (for CnG) to play that card. victimization is and always was a good strategy

you are saying there that a ally should not support another ally. i think you're saying this because they aren't your allies but w/e. my advice, don't try to tell someone how to come to the aid of another ally. if moral standards aren't uphold then we'd all run amok around here calling each other names. which i think /m/ already did you're right... CnG = new hegemony and, since we all know the people in there won't hurt a fly, they are pretty harmless. then again... how come CnG members always flood the boards with how evil the other side is and how they (the other side) deserve to be kept in eternal war/curbstomped etc etc??

[quote name='Voodoo Nova' date='01 March 2010 - 10:30 PM' timestamp='1267475667' post='2210200'] Don't toss IAA's name around like you know us. Thanks. Also, bragging that you're doing better when you're on the winning side makes you look foolish. Do better than DAWN when you're in their position, then you can start talking smack about doing better. Bama, I still owe you a nuke big boy. Grats on peace. [/quote] Voodoo, i'm starting to like you... but i doubt there was any malicious intent in Jeff's post. also, hi there Jeff. we should have a dance next war too. i liked our little rumble a lot!! [quote name='Hiro Nakara' date='01 March 2010 - 10:22 PM' timestamp='1267475151' post='2210190'] What part do you struggle with? They agree with TOPS agressive actions, making them as bad. If it is all to much to understand, I don't think I could dumb it down more for you. [/quote] i had problems with the beginning, the middle and the end. thank you for finally making sentences that made sense

[quote name='TheListener' date='01 March 2010 - 07:55 PM' timestamp='1267466316' post='2210032'] Hey I'm fighting Junkahoolik right now, certainly putting on a good show. [/quote] you're pretty ok too Listener

[quote name='Hiro Nakara' date='01 March 2010 - 09:10 PM' timestamp='1267470822' post='2210102'] Ahhh because IRON dissagree with TOPS war of agression? Nope they agree, so are as bad, hypocracy. You can try and cut it anyway you wish, they acted agressivly by supporting tops actions and I'm in no doubt they chatted with TOP well in advance of this happening. So they agree with these actions, they will take the reps that is going to be assosiated with thier actions. So he may want to look internally before using comments like that, especially when hes as bad, if not worse. [/quote] i'm sorry, you're not making sense. care to make a bit more intelligible please??

[quote name='Krack' date='01 March 2010 - 03:40 PM' timestamp='1267451034' post='2209880'] Aloha is currently accepting individual surrenders from DAWN. Just switch your AA to "Aloha-POW" and [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=213"]go here[/url] and post "Uncle!"; you will, of course, want to stay out of all further military engagements and decommission your nuclear weapon. [/quote] crank, i'm planning to decommission my nukes later today really no need to thank me though!! thank the poor poor guys who like them so much that they want to really feel them!! also, how is Big Jeff?? fine i hope... he hasn't had any play partners since me from what i see...

[quote name='franciscus' date='01 March 2010 - 06:44 PM' timestamp='1267462108' post='2209982'] Super-tight. According to your ally's allies, these 5 people that make our alliance have been so fearsome on the battlefield, they deserve reps comparable to TOP's and 4 times larger than IRON's. Come to think of it, we should go make up more government positions for us to elect ourselves in. We're much too awesome for a single office. [/quote] frannie, someone skipped over first grade. at least do the math better for him especially. lemme see... "-snip- they deserve reps 3 times higher then TOP's and 12 times larger than IRON's -snip-" all better now!! (and yes, we are that good!! )

krack, if i was to ask everyone if they are insecure, they all would say they aren't insecure. behavior is all that matters really... ([ooc]fun fact: i saw a show where a guy asked the audience to close their eyes then lift their hands if they thought they were a bit smarter then the average. guess how many people raised their hands?? just to clarify, no insinuations here [/ooc])

[quote name='Krack' date='01 March 2010 - 02:19 PM' timestamp='1267446151' post='2209835'] I know this ... if my alliance attacked FARK tonight, you wouldn't see me on here 24 hours later crying a river that SuperFriends was bashing our heads in. [/quote] but but but... i see you here saying how horrible our side is for 24 hours a day... are you by chance trying to convince yourself of that?? cause it sure looks like insecurity to me

[quote name='Puppet Master' date='01 March 2010 - 07:12 AM' timestamp='1267420535' post='2209509'] You know your popular DAWN when people are hoping each one of your announcements is a disband notice. Its a sign that you all are doing great work! [/quote] this guy knows what he's talking about!! also, hi PM!!

You sir are my new role model. I love milk!! [quote name='Style #386' date='28 February 2010 - 12:40 AM' timestamp='1267310644' post='2207036'] What do you gents think about unpasteurized milk? [/quote] needs a better taste imo.

[quote name='Arcturus Jefferson' date='20 February 2010 - 08:23 AM' timestamp='1266647012' post='2193176'] Why would I advocate an opinion I knew was wrong except for deceit? You're a real piece of work. [/quote] i don't even know why i bother anymore... good day to you sir!!

[quote name='Arcturus Jefferson' date='17 February 2010 - 05:21 AM' timestamp='1266376869' post='2186869'] Not in the slightest. I happen to think that my perspective say, in this thread, is true. I wouldn't advocate it if I thought it was false. However, I believe that it is possible to be right or wrong. Tell me - if all perspectives are true, why would you debate with me? According to you, we're both right, and so we don't really need to actually talk about anything. [/quote] yeah... you also believe it's true everywhere you state it. i told ya... check how many times you contradicted yourself in the posts back. you will be surprised... if you can actually see it... [quote name='Arcturus Jefferson' date='17 February 2010 - 05:21 AM' timestamp='1266376869' post='2186869'] Everyone is doing it [i]only by your definition[/i] - which illustrates how flawed your definition is. Even if it is correct (which you supposedly don't believe in!) then it is utterly useless for the purposes of our discussion. [/quote] when did i say i don't believe in it?? and can you really say that we are not fighting for power?? what do you think we are doing right now?? trying to sway others with our opinions. this is a battle for power nonetheless. as i said, just because people are too wrapped up in the realm of personal power for themselves and their group, it doesn't mean they can say it's not happening. anyway, back on topic pls??

[quote name='jamesdanaher' date='17 February 2010 - 02:10 AM' timestamp='1266365436' post='2186501'] Please- keep this discussion civil. Calling C&G "Joracy" is terribly insulting. [/quote] this is actually a terrible thing to say about a alliance mate... [quote name='joracy' date='17 February 2010 - 02:10 AM' timestamp='1266365438' post='2186503'] Umm, cool? I guess this is where I say you taking two words out of context, blathering about something unrelated to my post, and refusing to respond to the actual content of the post, while making some mock insult against me and my allies when I call you out on doing nothing but raising your post count embodies the whole of IRON and their general strategy on public relations and the BB since the TPF war? [/quote] I could go on with a post about "isn't it what you did in the GGA cancellation thread, made it all about 1 thing in their cancellation notice then ridiculing IRON even though they got the notice you got and knew all of what they said, and about how it is ironic that you are calling me out for using them..." buut... i'd much rather say this. it's way easier calling out other people on their behaviors than addressing the elephant in the room that is your behavior. and CnG members behavior has lacked tremendously in the last year or more. even archon admitted it in the op. as for the whole white peace thing, it was what got Karma started. off course, it was dropped immediately after the PR battle was won. behavior check anyone?? edit: guess it still is a no-u post :| also, excuse my current slight lack of logic in making statements. the late hours do wonders for my logical brain

[quote name='joracy' date='17 February 2010 - 01:34 AM' timestamp='1266363265' post='2186436'] Yes, some jokes me or members of ODN have made are very relevant to your side refusing anything but straight white peace, and you have managed to single handedly dismantle my entire argument. Congratulations! I don't see what this has to do with what I've said, except for you picking out two words in my paragraph and talking about something unrelated. Also, I've been in IRON's private channel? Cool. EDIT: Also, Joracy for TOP and IRON viceroy! [/quote] ooh, i do so love this man!! he embodies the whole of CnG

[quote name='Arcturus Jefferson' date='15 February 2010 - 05:42 PM' timestamp='1266248548' post='2183014'] I don't see it, but then again you're the one who's running around saying your relativity is fact - which is impossible if relativity is true. Hell, that statement (by the definition of relativity) doesn't even [i]mean anything[/i]. [/quote] you're the one saying that only your perspective on all matters is true. [quote name='Arcturus Jefferson' date='15 February 2010 - 05:42 PM' timestamp='1266248548' post='2183014'] By defining everything to be a power struggle, the term power struggle becomes meaningless. Real useful commentary. [/quote] so... if everybody is doing it, it becomes meaningless?? i fail to see the logic...

[quote name='joracy' date='16 February 2010 - 11:50 PM' timestamp='1266357041' post='2186242'] Not wanting to offer them white peace, and wanting to ensure we win the war and they are no longer an immediate threat to us is not the same as attacking alliances under incredibly shaky CB's, curbstomping alliances for months after their military as been dismantled, extorting reps that trump any grievance we may have, imposing draconian terms removing members from government/destroying wonders/etc or secret terms, and all the other stuff the hegemony is noted for. TOP et al attacked us. The idea that we are as evil as the hegemony because now that they've attacked us, we want a conclusion to the war is laughable. When we aggressively attacked them with a weak CB, hold them at war long after they have been defeated, and give them draconian terms, you'll have a point. Until then, such comparisons are silly and insult peoples intelligence. This mutually beneficial thing is also incredibly silly. Do you know what else would be mutually beneficial? TOP et al agreeing to negotiate at some point and not simply demanding white peace in perpetuity. I'm sure that would end this war much quicker, and any terms they did get would benefit them compared to drawing the war out even longer, both politically, militarily and economically. They refuse to do that. We are assaulted non stop, both officially, and unofficially, in private and public that they will never negotiate anything but straight white peace. Yet; they are not lambasted for this. They could do something that would benefit both parties, but have stated they will refuse. We both have our opinions on how this war should end; and both are guilty of not doing something mutually beneficial and something that would end this war sooner. [/quote] funny you should be the one who talks about being assaulted officially and unofficially... what did you do on IRON's private channels?? and what was all that joking about putting Merlin as DAWN's viceroy?? really... i wouldn't show my head in public if i were you...

[quote name='Arcturus Jefferson' date='13 February 2010 - 11:57 PM' timestamp='1266098234' post='2179769'] Of course I can be wrong. I think you're projecting. [/quote] off course. all we do as humans is project. however, i'm aware of it. you can't even see how you went up against your words in a few posts in this thread only. [quote name='Arcturus Jefferson' date='13 February 2010 - 11:57 PM' timestamp='1266098234' post='2179769'] You're defining power as "relating to other people". That's ridiculous. [/quote] just because you can't sense the subtlety of social status and the ways it affects us in the constant struggle for power does not mean it's not happening. as human being all we do is battle for power, be it to be independent, to protect our allies or to smite our enemies. what you are doing now is something i did also for a long time (and still do occasionally). you're trying to win a argument for the sake of winning (power struggle anyone??)