Tautology

[quote name='Heya' timestamp='1299627821' post='2657199'] Lol you know excatly what I mean't. And any ally of PC knows what I'm refering to. Your full of !@#$ Taut, taking advantage of my typos! [/quote] Yeah, I knew what you meant but I couldn't resist it. The point is that what makes PC what it is is more than just its casualty stats.

[quote name='Heya' timestamp='1299626927' post='2657166'] Yeah I know there great. And my point is is that we'd trade friends for infra anyday.[/quote] That's where we're different. We'd never trade our friends and we'd willingly give up our infra for friends. btw, it doesn't really matter in the big scheme of things but it's "they're great" not "there".

Great statistics but that's not what Laz was talking about, but I think you already know that.

[quote name='blueski' timestamp='1299535924' post='2655788'] Are you a moron?[/quote]No. [quote]Are you unable to follow [along with] a simple discussion?[/quote]I've never had that problem. "Follow along with" is redundancy. In fact it's an example of a linguistic tautology. [quote]Yeah, you're just full of !@#$ Taut.[/quote]Sorry if I hit a nerve. It wasn't my intention. p.s. This thread needs more FOK/iFOK.

For someone who claims to think their alliance is winning, you sure are whining a lot, Stewie. Make your mind up.

I'll wager my Cadillac that I can block your next 6 nukes but if I win, I get to cut off one of your fingers.

I thought this thread was going to be the usual train-crash but Roquentin, Alterego, potato et al are putting on a good show.

[quote name='citizenkane' timestamp='1298321726' post='2640916']Instead of looking at the bigger picture here, RoK has chosen to take this opportunity to settle some imagined personal vendetta that their government has against PC.[/quote] RoK hit Poison Clan for pragmatic reasons. Of the 3 alliances that had declared on NpO at the time, VE had a treaty with us and some other alliances were taking on iFOK. FOK was coming in but they had strong ties to a couple of RoK's allies. By default, PC was all that was left for RoK. I know it's not a very romantic reason to ask you for a dance. Sorry.

When you have as much land as zoom does, you can graze a lot of cattle.

Congratulations on your government changes.

Cut the poor guy some slack.

Instead of the more dramatic options such as a cannonball or stubbornly sitting on the side of the pool shivering, MHA has made the very pragmatic choice of splashing around a bit in the shallow end. Once again, their prudence should be applauded.

Give 'em hell, Nordreich.

[quote name='Sandwich Controversy' timestamp='1295916085' post='2597418'] Amazing, amazing. I am indeed mad that an alliance I consider an enemy gives their highest leadership position to people who join from outside the alliance simply for the opportunity, yes. [/quote] This type of comment is something I'll miss. Nice one.

[center][img]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20071214115307/cybernations/images/thumb/0/0c/ROKINIT2.PNG/250px-ROKINIT2.PNG[/img][/center] I never had an amusing picture sequence or profound wall of text for this announcement. Instead of cursing me for my laziness and lack of artistic or literary ambition, please focus your love and admiration on Ragnarok's new leader: KaitlinK. Hail Empress KaitlinK Hail Ragnarok tl;dr: KaitlinK is Empress of Ragnarok

[quote name='SonOfHoward' timestamp='1295561533' post='2587257'] So what, Rok is choosing NpO's side over VE's side, they are seeking the path of least resistance(FA speaking so no offense PC) in this case to try to appease both treaties partners when really they should poop or get off the pot. See I can make peepee and poopoo references too. [/quote] I know these are supposed to be serious times but I smiled at the Poison Clan/path of least resistance comment. Unfortunately, it became clear very quickly that appeasing VE was never a serious option here - have you seen that look a bull gets when the matador waves the red rag? Despite that, I imagine there are some in VE who feel they've been pooped on from a greater or lesser height. I don't take any personal pleasure from that.

[quote name='Rocky Horror' timestamp='1295540586' post='2586489'] [b]1.[/b] Rok announce they are not entering the war.[/quote] Sorry it took me so long to see this. RoK didn't announce they weren't entering the war. VE announced that RoK wasn't entering the war although RoK had never told VE that RoK wasn't entering the war. I don't know why VE did that. I like your topic.

Welcome to the fun, SLCB. I liked your OP too.

[quote name='Xavii' timestamp='1295523675' post='2586124'] What I got from this thread: [list] [*]VE told RoK they will hit NpO, RoK gives the OK. [*]Hoo finds out RoK won't help out NpO and leaves to do it himself. [*]RoK then decides to change their minds and joins NpO's side. [/list] Why did I get this? [list] [*]VE stated RoK gave the ok. [*]RoK disregards this. [*]Question is raised: Then why did Hoo leave? [*]Then suddenly RoK gov went silent about that current topic. Pretty much pleading the 5th. [/list] [/quote] This bit isn't true: "VE told RoK they will hit NpO, RoK gives the OK." This bit is true: "VE stated RoK gave the ok." I could speculate on VE's motives for saying that RoK gave them the okay but I think VE is the one to ask if you want to know why they said that. As for my silence in this thread up to now, I couldn't really think of anything worthwhile to add while so many other people were contributing gems to it. Anyway, I hope this post sheds a little light for you.

Congratulations and welcome to the party.

Ragnarok welcomes 57th Overlanders to Ragnablok. [quote][b][size=150][center]Ragnablok[/center][/size][/b] [center][img]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20071214115307/cybernations/images/thumb/0/0c/ROKINIT2.PNG/250px-ROKINIT2.PNG[/img] [img]http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll214/Veneke1/57thFlagbkp4-acopy-1.png[/img][/center] [b]Preamble:[/b] In the interest of friendship, protection, and guidance the undersigned alliances agree to the following Protectorate-ODAP agreement. May our friendship continue to flourish, and our growth be mutual. [b]Article I: Sovereignty[/b] It must be understood that all alliances remain sovereign and independent alliances. This pact shall not infringe on the sovereignty of the signatories and shall serve to only embody the friendship and trust amongst the signatory alliances. [b]Article II: Peace, Respect, and Friendship[/b] Members of the signatory alliances agree to coexist in a state of peace. Alliances will under no circumstances engage in military actions against each other. Also, no signatory alliance shall engage in acts of espionage against the other alliances, nor shall they knowingly and willfully render aid and/or intelligence to known enemies of the other. All alliances will remain respectful towards each other at all times and any differences will be handled via private discussion. The membership of each signatory alliance commit to remaining civil towards each other at all times, particularly in public channels, but also in private. [b]III. Protection and Defense[/b] In the event that any signatory alliance is attacked, all signatory members are encouraged though not required to provide aid via military and financial means except for Ragnarok who assumes responsibility for the well-being of all of the undersigned members. An attack on any of the undersigned protectorates will be considered an attack on Ragnarok. Ragnarok will attempt to resolve such an issue on the behalf of the protectorates through diplomatic means before force is ever used. [b]IV. Optional Aggression[/b] All signatories will have the option if they so desire to assist any other signatory with an offensive military action in any manner they see fit. No signatory will be required to assist any other signatory with an offensive military action, though it is encouraged to help in any way possible. [b]V. Aid and Progress[/b] Ragnarok will aid their protectorates when able to help them grow as alliances. Ragnarok also assumes the responsibility for the success and growth of their protectorates and will offer all the assistance and guidance that it can provide. [b]VI. War and Treaty Signing[/b] The undersigned protectorate agrees to alert Ragnarok if they have decided to go on the offensive towards another alliance within 48 hours of doing so. The undersigned protectorates will never declare war on another alliance without first discussing it with Ragnarok leadership. The undersigned protectorate will also contact Ragnarok before signing any treaties with other alliances and will discuss such decisions with them. [b]VII. Merging and Disbandment[/b] In the sad event that any of the protectorates decides they can no longer function as an alliance, the undersigned agree to contact Ragnarok leadership. If possible disbandment is an option, the undersigned agree to contact Ragnarok within 24 hours to discuss other options. Ragnarok agrees to do everything they can to help their protectorates avoid such a fate. [b]IX. Termination of Membership[/b] The undersigned alliances may leave at any time, but in doing so it is understood that it will also void all terms and obligations of this pact. Such a cancellation requires a 48 hour cancellation period after notification before the articles contained within are void. All signatories agree to strict non-aggression during this cancellation period. Ragnarok may expel a member for violation of both the spirit and letter of this pact. Should any protectorate feel they have outgrown the need for protection and assistance from Ragnarok, the parties will discuss a possible upgrade. Signed for Ragnarok Tautology, Emperor Rampage3, Regent Mykep, Vice Regent Joe Stupid, High Chancellor Yukon Don, Vice Chancellor Signed for 57th Overlanders Veneke - Captain Lord Panda - Lieutenant Roosterton - Sergeant [/quote]

[center][img]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20071214115307/cybernations/images/thumb/0/0c/ROKINIT2.PNG/250px-ROKINIT2.PNG[/img][/center] As per our treaty with the New Polar Order, Ragnarok declares war on Poison Clan. Tautology, Emperor Rampage3, Regent Mykep, Vice Regent Joe Stupid, High Chancellor Yukon Don, Vice Chancellor

[quote name='Van Hoo III' timestamp='1295331837' post='2580442'] Ragnarok has decided that Polar is in the wrong and that they will not be coming to their defense.[/quote] Although it would've been much easier while you were still a member of Ragnarok, I still recommend you talk with me if you want to know what's been decided. You know that's the way it's always worked in RoK.

[quote name='Britishdude' timestamp='1295325965' post='2580094'] Sad to see. Is there any particular reason for a 28 day protection period? [/quote] 27 days seemed too short and 29 days would've been excessive.

[quote name='Jaymjaym' timestamp='1295303690' post='2578949'] Another well deserved victory for the NSO...[/quote] Hush, hush. Voices carry.