Yall don't know me. I read the OWF, but do not typically post. The following is all personla opinion and should be read in that context.
All this 'Karma War Peace Terms Update: Why NPO refuses to agree to the terms' is starting to get real old. It is almost as bad as turning on ESPN and watching 3 hours of nothing but "Will Brett Favre come back: the latest story". Point is, I cannot see where any of this speculation is getting us any closer to the peace almost all of us want, so I have a couple of tips for both Karma and NPO, as well as for some of the NPO's main defenders/supporters.
To Pacifica: You lost, period. You have dictated harsh* terms to almost all of the alliances you have beaten in the past. Can you not see that this war is about retribution, not a seizure of power away from the hegemony that dictated the path of CN for so long. You really have maybe four options: Man** up, take the terms given to you with a smile, and try to recover both statistically and politically; the masses rise up, overthrow you government, and install someone who may be able to talk reasonably with the Karma leaders; start winning the war and then YOU can dictate the terms; and finally, you can really PO Karma and disband, not allowing them the chance to grind you to dust.
To Karma: Yes, you have won, I give you that. But I want you to reflect a little before you completely destroy the standard bearer for Planet Bob almost since its inception. Many of the alliances now aligned against NPO were once direct allies or solidly connected through the MDP web. Also remember who will pay the reps and those that will take the most damage in the 14 day war on hippies that will happen if/when the current peace terms are accepted will be the masses, not the government that you are truly fighting against. Their true power is not in infra or tech, but in their say in the NPO private forum. As long as the current government rules NPO, there will never be a true time of peace in CN.
To mhawk & other NPO defenders: I have read many thready where you have debated Karma members about the math involved in the reps proposed. While I do not have the ability (or patience) with numbers that many of these others do, I cannot see why an alliance famed for its ability to rebuild quickly to pre-war totals, can suddenly not be able to pay back a simple amount over an indefinite length of time. That being said, I applaud you for your staunch support of your alliance (or ally) despite the situation it now faces. All I can ask is that my friends and alliance-mates try to aid me like yall whenever I stick my foot in my mouth**.
*while the harsness of the terms is subjective to personal opinion, I am using popular opinion
**Figures of speach, don't go all PC on me.