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[quote name='Britishdude' timestamp='1296267205' post='2608313'] Bit of a disclaimer: Before this turns into a fire storm of "no u's" We were informed days later that Sho didn't have the authority to agree to such, even though he was acting as Military Affairs and in charge of Internal Affairs. To say we were blindsided when we were threatened with war by VE would be an overwhelming understatement. [/quote] Hahaha, STA has heard its fair share of that excuse. Whenever another alliance messes up big time, the only person who you didn't talk to becomes the only one that actually had the authority to make such a decision. Why those alliances keep other government members around at all is beyond me.

Good job, KoH! Keep fighting

[quote name='atrophis' timestamp='1296262131' post='2608199'] You really enjoy talking smack, don't you? I am wondering if you were saying the same thing about the NPO when they hit us one week out till our peace terms ended with several other alliances? What comes around, goes around. [/quote] I don't know if I was around/checked the OWF then. However, I probably would have been saying the same thing. Also, Pacifica has been feared for their large numbers and connections. I don't know if anyone equated them to a well-organized military powerhouse as they have with you. I could be wrong.

[quote name='Kalasin' timestamp='1296259184' post='2608148'] I gather you missed the part where FAN hit NPO before Doomhouse. Besides, even if you were correct, I don't see anything wrong with waiting until I have a winning position before I embark on a campaign to get revenge on someone I dislike. It's simply the intelligent way to do things. FAN could not have taken NPO by itself, so therefore it didn't attempt to do so (at first, anyway.) They needed to rebuild and I'm sure NPO watched FAN's massive buildup of nukes and WRCs with some trepidation. [/quote] If you honestly believe that FAN declared war without knowledge of Doomhouse attacking then you are a fool. If you don't believe that, than you know the actual time of their first war upon NPO doesn't matter. It is the fact that they waited until they knew Doomhouse was attacking and they decided to join in on the war. Sure, it is the more intelligent (read: cowardly) way of getting revenge. However, an alliance that likes to tout itself as being a military powerhouse should not be entering a war riding on the heels of stronger alliances. The bravest general of LakerLand does not wait for 3 other generals to lead their armies into enemy territory before marching in himself.

Nice announcement and everything, but I just found it a little funny that after YOU declared an offensive war against NPO, you felt the need to make an announcement stating you won't disband. Are you guys that nervous about it? You're not the only one with multiple alliances to fight now. Jeez!

[quote name='Ellis' timestamp='1296119149' post='2605212'] If they don't read the OWF, how would they really know about anything that goes on? I mean, if they don't read the OWF, while they'd notice a war like this, I doubt they'd look up alliance stats or anything, so they'd have no idea how good anyone was at fighting. Besides, there hasn't really been any breakthroughs in military theory since VietFAN II at least, when they were one of the most battle-hardened alliances out there [/quote] Right. I was just pointing out that the average neutral nation ruler approach wouldn't garnish the results he wanted since the average nation ruler knows little outside his own nation/alliance. And if we went only by those posting on the OWF, well...95% of posters are tied heavily to one side or another and don't have unbiased opinions.

[quote name='memoryproblems' timestamp='1296084849' post='2603531'] FAN? respected military? Sounds like 2006. What have they done since? Gotten beat down, and then prove to be opportunistic scum who lack the testicular fortitude to do what until victory is already assured. [/quote] That was my point. How times have changed. FAN has gone from being a military powerhouse to a bandwagon alliance that needs bigger and stronger alliances to forge the way while they get sloppy seconds.

[quote name='Steve Buscemi' timestamp='1296085364' post='2603557'] It's posts like these that just make yourself and your alliance look foolish. If you took a poll of somewhat neutral (everyone is connected these days) I know you'd find that FAN is still very respected militarily, just like your own alliance is. Now I'm sure the NPO and allies PR brigade will disagree, but we all know the truth. I know you are just trying to troll, but it only makes you look stupid fyi. edit: Awesome post mpol, I completely agree with you. [/quote] It's posts like these that just make yourself and your alliance look foolish. Respected military alliances don't wait until an alliance is getting attacked by 3 other alliances and jump on their coat tails to get in on the action as well. FAN clearly only entered the war because they knew they couldn't lose with all these numbers on their side. No Doomhouse announcement= No Fan announcement. What has FAN done recently that shows they are still a military powerhouse like they once were (4 years ago?). And please don't cite winning those idiotic war games. Edit: Also, if your poll was a random selection of nation rulers, I bet most would not really know who FAN is considering FAN has done nothing in 4 years and the average nation ruler does not read the OWF.

Wasn't FAN a respected military alliance? How times have changed.

[quote name='LJ Scott' timestamp='1296075815' post='2603236'] Doom House will surrender to NpO in a weeks time. [/quote] I concur.

[quote name='Lizzardtheone' timestamp='1295960819' post='2599974'] [img]http://i.picasion.com/pic38/7eec55c4c35674d3f29256e2151f9e67.gif[/img] [/quote] HAHAHAHAH! Nice one, Lizzard. You finally did something right.

[quote name='Commisar Gaunt' timestamp='1295939202' post='2599352'] After suffering through a world under the thumb of the New Pacific Order, I can honestly say that you are reaping everything that your alliance had sown over the years. [/quote] Try removing the blinders that MK has placed on your eyes, buddy

Destroy those cowards and hypocrites, NPO!

Good luck NV!

[quote name='Chief Savage Man' timestamp='1295847217' post='2595642'] Some alliances are more suited to attack other alliances than others. Just because an alliance like GOONS would be a good alliance to attack an alliance like UPN doesn't mean we don't love and respect them. Argent is a better alliance to fight STA than Umbrella is, that's all there is to it. It's basic coalition management, really. [/quote] I definitely agree with you here. However, that's not what was said. What was said was that we're not worth the slots. Implying that some useless alliance should fill their slots with us. Anyway, good luck in the war Argent.

[quote name='acrux' timestamp='1295846955' post='2595620'] Honestly.. youre not worth the slots.. there.. you have the truth. [/quote] Good to know how highly you think of Argent.

[quote name='Itsuki Koizumi' timestamp='1295846561' post='2595588'] the fact umbrella isn't actually engaging STA [/quote] Fair enough. Could have at least posted a separate thread for your ghost DoW like VE did.

[quote name='Chief Savage Man' timestamp='1295846141' post='2595556'] Would if I could, pal. [/quote] What is stopping you?

Thanks NV! Enjoy the war

[quote name='Chief Savage Man' timestamp='1295845837' post='2595513'] Argent, I love you. Kill some tigers for me. [/quote] Can't you do it yourself? You did just declare war on us, too or something right?

[quote name='Johnny Apocalypse' timestamp='1295717587' post='2592080'] [IMG]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h80/comradeekirei/formatbob-1.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h80/comradeekirei/moralcorrupt.gif[/IMG] Today I learned how to gif. [/quote] Really nice! But the funniest thing in this thread had to be that guy crying about boats.

[quote name='Gopherbashi' timestamp='1295640156' post='2589448'] Edited to include STA. Thanks. [/quote] Thank you

[quote name='Jaymjaym' timestamp='1295582795' post='2587728'] It's been determined that you actually are Gopher. [/quote] Hahaha. That chart looks nice, too. Good way to keep track of the war.

Welcome to the war and good luck

By the way, way to declare on an ally of your ally again, VE. Twice in one war, well done