Alterego

For me the Chickenzilla poll was utterly pathetic.

[quote name='Kalasin' timestamp='1284452121' post='2453409'] ye mean like the Coalition of Cowards, right? [/quote] Its funny that ye be still calling the people who actually fought very hard in that war anyway by that name but when someone mentions your past it was ages ago and ye be different now despite ye ditching your hearties and doing[u] nothing at all[/u] except watch them burn.

Never mind. I see its talk like a pirate day.

[quote name='JT Jag' timestamp='1284875643' post='2457886'] Incidentally, I would like to recognize International Talk Like A Pirate Day, and note that I (and, I assume, all of ye) have an irresistible need to talk like a pirate right now. Arr. [/quote] Ok mystery solved

http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=92438&view=findpost&p=2458020 Wont let me type some words. They [b]be [/b]coming out as misspelled words. Damn it add the bolded word to that too

Congrats Genmay/Umbrella. Heres to crap protectorates ([s]ye [/s]ye know who I mean) & second chances. [s]thar [/s]thar seems to be an unnatural amount of hardened fighting alliances to come from the small group within the UJH that weathered the UJW storm regrouped. That group produced Umbrella, MK, GOD, BAPS, FOK, FARK and others. Perhaps that war and its aftermath was a blessing in some ways. It made the alliances who came through it resilient and fearless. [size="3"][b]anyone else having a problem with some words?[/b] [b]every time i type the full version of [b]U [/b]it comes out as ye, same with the other spelling error up thar. <<<< SEE[/b][/size] Enjoyable read o/ [img]http://clubedosvagalz.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/1000thpost.jpg[/img]

[quote name='Rebel Virginia' timestamp='1284783593' post='2457015'] [color="#0000FF"] GOONS pressured me. They didn't really say anything, explicitly anyway. But it was implied, not through words. They never said anything to me, but they didn't have to. I just felt pressured( [/color] [/quote] And you have held ranking positions in multiple alliances and hold a high ranking position in NSO

[quote name='KingEd' timestamp='1284782943' post='2457004'] So Legion is WAE? If that's the case, Congratulations, I guess. [/quote] If UPN wasn’t in the process of slithering over to the C&G side of the world they would have had the backing of all C&G and comfortably won.

This is the only reason. If an ally tells you to stay out you have to respect their wishes to be a good ally. Every other situation, eg:spying, should be in the treaty or you cant be trusted as an ally again.

Though this was going to be a cancellation with someone else instead of a new treaty. Good luck SLCB edit:Having read the lot let me say LOL

[quote name='magicninja' timestamp='1284651495' post='2455800'] I'd say having the stones to stand up and say we won't defend a treaty partner who is on a crusade against something that is a part of who we are is the very definition of honor. You wouldn't know anything about doing the right thing though would you? [/quote] They had no treaty with Polar(the crusading alliance). They said they wouldnt defend anyone who was on that side of the war even if it was multiple DoWs away from Polar. The right thing is following what you wrote in your treaty no excuses. If people have a moral code put it in the treaty dont whip it out on the eve of war after being treaty partners months or years. That is doinng the right thing, how is abandoning all allies at a time of war doing the right thing. Would GATO ditch their allies before a war if they suddenly had a "moral issue"? whatever the hell that is supposed to mean here on bob. If you have moral issues put it in your treaty or dont sign up when you could at a moments notice decide to tell your allies you wont defend them.

[quote name='Chief' timestamp='1284568463' post='2454810'] I agree completely, NEW is an excellent example of an alliance which does not compromise its morals for the sake of short term petty gains, or even long term ones. This is the unfortunately the [b]Polar[/b] opposite of many other alliances. [/quote] NEW [u]slated [/u]polar for going to war for moral reasons then NEW refused to defend any ally for moral reasons. If there is one thing you never do its refuse to defend an ally. You signed the treaty you honour it or you have no honour.

[quote name='NoFish' timestamp='1284496871' post='2453876'] An alliance intending to only support one side in a global war when they have conflicting treaties?! Madness! (Disclaimer: I have to idea if that actually happened and don't remember VE's treaties at the time, but supposing that it did it still strikes me as a pretty poor point) [/quote] It was NEW. I guess I was being too sublte.

[quote name='NoFish' timestamp='1284489298' post='2453769'] I'm really having trouble thinking of a time when VE broke a treaty. Care to enlighten me? [/quote] VE, didnt they tell all their allies they wouldnt defend them if they fought on the same side of a global war as Polar regardless if it was only to defend allies.

[quote name='Lincongrad' timestamp='1284408787' post='2452590'] No, we cancelled on [b]BAPS [/b]and Valhalla cause [b]we didn't like what they were doing/their attitude/their treatment of us[/b]. That was Arb's flubbed delivery. As I said, he is no longer in gov. [/quote] Feel free to continue. It wasnt a flubbed delivery it was a lie much like what you said here. This was posted when we parted ways its nothing new. [quote] [b]01[22:40] <Topgun{BAPS}> Who are you planning on signing with? [22:40] <The_Arbiter> you'll see! 01[22:41] <Topgun{BAPS}> Then why not say? [22:41] <The_Arbiter> as soon as it becomes non opsec i promise i'll find you [/b] [/quote] Is it non opsec yet?

[quote name='kriekfreak' timestamp='1284377534' post='2452184'] Difficult. A lot of them are whiny. I voted BAPS cause Alterego whines more than all the horrible posters of IRON combined. [/quote] Its a fair cop guv. Honestly I complain less than most. Im just so good at it that one of my posts are worth 20 posts of the next worst person. Lack of quality not quantity is what counts.

[quote name='Thunder Strike' timestamp='1284363693' post='2452100'] So I heard that UPN is cancelling another one of these MDoAP's. [/quote] Is it Quantum?

[quote name='OsRavan' timestamp='1284336282' post='2451728'] Anyway, on the actual topic of this announcement, I consider this a good decision by UPN. I can't say i'm surprised by the reactions of some, but personally I tend to think that when someone overturns a poor policy they should be congratulated on improving not insulted for once having a poor policy. [/quote] If they made a public announcement ending a policy (lets call it the James bond resolution) saying they would no longer spy on SF after years of doing so should they "be congratulated on improving not insulted for once having a poor policy" and admitting it in public.

[quote name='Peggy_Sue' timestamp='1284233113' post='2450046'] Shame on you, AlterEgo. Again. I am not classless enough to dump the log where I talked with a FEAR gov member and we agreed to treat it as an ODP ... FEAR was trying to help us in that regard. It was partly due to the fact that FEAR declared war on an MD-partner of ours ... ODN... thus breaking the FEAR-UPN treaty. You know nothing then take that and make an issue of it because you know most of the little boys that love to post their hatred on this forum will fall in line with you. [/quote] Most other alliances would be humiliated by your actions but you and your alliance are shameless. Without an understanding of what shame means you are unable to use the word to your own shameless ends. You can expect topics like this to be a recurring situation.

[quote name='Muddog' timestamp='1284255087' post='2450395'] Circular logic is not a valid argument. Yes if the whole world was honorable there would be no need for the word, the world we live in that is not the case. [/quote] Thats not what you said. You said even dishonourable alliances should be given honour by everyone around them. How absurd! What an absurd concept to think let alone say out loud. Please tell me you dont hold any position above tea boy.

[quote name='Muddog' timestamp='1284253735' post='2450374'] True honor is not given to only those who deserve it, its giving it even to those who don't. [/quote] If thats the case dishonour cant possibly exist. There can only be the honourable. When everyone, good or bad is honourable the word loses its meaning.

[quote name='Muddog' timestamp='1284253029' post='2450361'] I'll confirm another for you; Honor, basic respect and human decency are lost on a great many people of this world. You sir are no exception. [/quote] The dishonourable dont deserve to be honoured, respect is earned not handed out to the undeserving and human decency is over rated.

[quote name='lionheart' timestamp='1284239032' post='2450139'] Guys Ihave seen the future. October first will be the Casper vs. UPN war. Though really good on you guys. It will be easier to run a gov for an alliance with only a few people. [/quote] My money is on their ghosts winning and forcing them to reverse the policy.

[quote name='Lusitan' timestamp='1284226666' post='2449955'] Yes, because the relevance of an alliance's actions only go as far as one week goes If you think for a bit on what I wrote you'll figure it out, I have faith. [/quote] If you think fliping sides will stop someone throwing them a bone you've missed the last 4 years of wars. There is more than one yo yo alliance and they always found a willing partner after each flip.

What other policies will you change to appease the mob?