Dave93

[quote name='SoADarthCyfe6' timestamp='1318736445' post='2826019'] Right, back to reality. Note that TIO lied to us about their intentions of upgrading with NPO after the war concluded. There's also a lot that diplomacy can do in between two alliances such as mend relations or at least start them. A PIAT with NPO has been talked about since even before TIO had a treaty with Pacifica? You of all people should know this. Anyways, glad to see that we can finally put our past times behind us. o/ GATO o/ NPO Pressing forwards to new frontiers! [/quote] Would suggest maybe you talk to Kubla to get the full story, or you can find me on IRC and I'll have a look and see if I can find the logs of our chat with him about it a few weeks back about what really happened. On topic, Congratulations to my Allies in NPO and friends in GATO o/

I hate you all. o/ JLA, keep on going guys!(and Dua ofcourse )

[quote name='NationRuler' timestamp='1317002467' post='2808674'] I'm sure they won't, TIO. [/quote] Please don't take KR or Stagger's opinions as that of TIO's the rest of us could care less about what GATO does and who they treaty

Congratulations to GATO and CnG

Congrats to our allies in NPO, TLR you've got yourself a great treaty partner here o/ NPO o/ TLR

Best of luck to Polaris in the future.

o/ UINE o/ TIO I look forward to getting to know all of the new members that are moving across from UINE to TIO, welcome to our family

[quote name='Bleach24' timestamp='1311932138' post='2766868'] Not all people from AcTi is stupid. Just been away from conflicts and allowing people to run for us. [/quote] You should edit your previous posts to say what you want rather than quadruple posting....

Congrats to TIO and MCXA!

o/ UINE I look forward to working with you all over the coming months.

@The people debating the Karma war Do it else where please.

Happy to see this finally announced o/ NPO o/ TIO

[quote name='Demag' timestamp='1308160234' post='2731920'] That doesn't deal with the fact you were poaching [/quote] After what Pezstar said I went to speak with Skippy about this, and as he said he took only those who he brought with him. He also had a good look through his logs and there was only 1 person who he asked to join TIO and then he later retracted the invitation (not wanting to take another Guard from STA if said person had decided to join), another person actually wanted to join and then decided later on that he didn't want to. Since out inception TIO has been against poaching and does not practice it.

[quote name='Conformist Maryland' timestamp='1308146582' post='2731852'] Seriously? IAA was destroyed by NPO. It's not just someone "they don't like". It's kind of a big deal that TIO made the agreement to sign with NPO and inform IAA [i]afterward[/i] about the treaty. That's something that should not, and was not taken lightly. [/quote] You know I'm pretty sure I covered this, [quote name='Dave93' timestamp='1308019099' post='2730877'] Secondly, when we first came to speak with you about the NPO upgrade we told you we were considering it, but you obviously thought considering meant that we'd already agreed to it and had signed it. While it is true we have signed it now, we only did after we found out you were going to cancel on us. So no, we never lied to you as you say, you got information from another source which had no truth to it, and then you believed it even after said it wasn't true. [/quote] Oh would you look at that, I did. So lets get our facts straight would we?

[quote name='TheListener' timestamp='1308019575' post='2730884'] 1. Every nation leaves it's alliance of their own accord. 2. Really could care less about this point. 3. Yea I'm aware I was the only active government, why does that matter I mean seriously? As far as dragging your name through the mud, there was no such actions occurring until your new allies decided to try and stick up for you. Not our fault that TIO has made it so easy for your name to be dragged through the mud. [/quote] 1. By that I meant we didn't say "Come and join TIO and leave IAA". 2. So your more than happy to trash us over it, but when I actually say what really happened, you suddenly don't care? 3. Well, when Chim states there was a communication breakdown, you can't blame us for it when our gov was active

[quote name='Chimaera' timestamp='1307981525' post='2730594'] Well, hi there unnecessary controversy. Not what I expected with my morning drink. Let us go over every single possible factor in this cancellation, just for posterity's sake. You've mostly hit the nail on the head over the course of this topic, but we may as well clear it up. I, personally, wanted to cancel on TIO for two reasons - the fact that their membership constantly harassed and clearly hated me, and the fact that they were about to completely forgo every ally they had worth anything to sign a treaty with an alliance that, quite frankly, has never brought anything but pain and destruction to thousands of nations, including their own allies, across five years. I attempted to talk them out of it. I am quite sick of the 'changed' slogan that Pacifica is using in order to convince more alliances to return to their side - anyone with half a brain has seen this before, and seen the results. Pacifica will do what it does best - try to win every situation possible. The ends have always, and will always, justify the means. I firmly believe that TIO is starting down a path that will lead to their untimely demise. I intimated as such, and that it was a path I would not let the Empire follow. Say what you want about the current global power structure, but it is a hell of a lot better than it was in 2007 and 2008. There have been no forced disbandments, no eternal ZI sentences, none of what amounts to incomprehensible war crimes. I will never allow my alliance to indirectly be complicit in the revival of the former power structure. We would not go down that path with TIO, no matter how much we like their members. TIO went anyway. The treaty simply had to go. IAA, professionally, needed to cancel the treaty because of the lack of mutual trust and cooperation between the two parties, along with the latter of my two reasons above. The lie was simply the last straw. Our alliances had been drifting apart since they were brought into Synergy (a huge mistake, by the way, that I take a significant amount of responsibility for), and it had gotten to the point where our only daily interactions was TIO government members telling me what a terrible human being I am and how I am an awful Emperor. Now then, let me address the 'you should cancel on Polaris' part of this thread. No. I love Polar. They have stood up for the Empire time and again, and we have for them. I have and will again go to hell for Polaris. That should quite well address that. I am certain some of you will dissect my comments a million different ways, so have it, boys. -Chimaera [/quote] Ok Chim I'll play ball. Firstly, you seem to think you were the only party that was disrespected, while I can't ascertain whether or not my members harassed you because I don't have the logs of it so feel free to supply them, but you sure did a fair amount of disrespecting back to us, what was one of the first things you did when you became Emperor again? Oh right, come and try and poach TIO gov members for IAA, and then when I approached you about it your defense was "you guys poached IAA members after you founded" which is not true, your former members left of their own accord. Secondly, when we first came to speak with you about the NPO upgrade we told you we were considering it, but you obviously thought considering meant that we'd already agreed to it and had signed it. While it is true we have signed it now, we only did after we found out you were going to cancel on us. So no, we never lied to you as you say, you got information from another source which had no truth to it, and then you believed it even after said it wasn't true. Thirdly, with regards to a lack of communication between our alliances, name one active government member aside from TheListener from the time before you were Emperor? Cause we as hell didn't know of any. But anyway, way to stay classy in a cancellation thread IAA, I'm not saying you have to like us cause frankly I don't like you (specifically you, Chim) but there are right ways to cancel a treaty and wrong ways, and the wrong way is to try and drag our name through the mud.

Good luck in this venture GM, you'll always have friends in TIO

Welcome back Chimmy o/ IAA o/ PHD

[center][img]http://images.wikia.com/cybernations/images/0/0c/TIOSymbol.png[/img][/center] Everyone makes mistakes. Some of them are dumber than others. Concerning the protection of Thriller from tech-raiders, this hasty decision has not only caused a lot of controversy among the OWF, but also from within TIO. The decision to protect Thriller was one I alone made in the heat of the moment; the majority of the government of TIO was not consulted prior to the issuance of this statement. I now realize this was a mistake, given the unexpected degree and speed to which it escalated. In addition, it has come to our attention that several former members of our allies have begun tech-raiding Thriller. Although a statement of protection over Thriller was issued, we believe our relationship with our long-standing and trusted allies to be more important. Effective Immediately the protection of Thriller against tech raiders is null and void. Signed, Dave93 - Imperial High Commander

TIO will be protecting the Thriller AA from Tech Raiders until further notice. signed, Dave93 - Imperial High Commander

[center][img]http://images.wikia.com/cybernations/images/0/0c/TIOSymbol.png[/img][/center] It's always a sad day when an alliance loses its leader, Skippy has decided to step down from his position of Imperial High Commander. He was our leader at our inception and after a brief break, where RL stopped him from fulfilling his duties as our leader, he returned to the spot. In my opinion, he was the best leader TIO could have asked for, he isn't power hungry nor does he have a giant ego as can tend to be the case with alliance leaders. Skippy decided to leave me in charge of TIO, I hope I can do half as good a job as he did. [i]Signed on behalf of The Imperial Order[/i] Dave93 - Imperial High Commander

[quote name='Yevgeni Luchenkov' timestamp='1302100945' post='2685478'] Hopefully, you will soon disband again. [/quote] Oh the love I can feel it! It must be nice having nothing better to do than troll an announcement celebrating the birthday of alliance you don't like.

[quote name='Brenann' timestamp='1302090669' post='2685424'] Happy Birthday TIO... I look forward to many more. Just do us all a favour and get rid of that Skippeh guy. He just drags you down. [/quote] theres a plan in the works

I'm very honoured to receive this award from the alliance I love. Congrats to Jasmine, Rosie and Scorp too <3 You all

<3 LoSS Happy Birthday guys!