Ertyy

[quote name='Empress Theodora' date='06 February 2010 - 08:01 PM' timestamp='1265515266' post='2165939'] Gramlins has NO treaties at all besides MHA. These guys are also not one of the 'dumped' treaties from when Gramlins went paperless they have never had any connection with Gramlins at all outside of an inner color team aqua trade/senator thing. Also I find it amusing that if you go to the Gramlins boards and do a search for some of the FH names they made their very 1st posts about 2 weeks ago jan 24-27 applying for diplomatic masks. So in that short time they are so close of friends that they are sister alliances or is this a classic example of Gramlins new paperless treaty system being not so much a our friends are our friends paper or not as it is more a hey we are paperless so we can bribe whatever sell-swords are currently on the market to be meat-shields for us? That being said I welcome them to battle they may have come in on the skirts of Gramlins but they are delusional if they think they can skate out on them. [/quote] You might want to more than pretend to do your homework. We've been friends with FH since as long as I can remember.

[quote name='Krack' date='06 February 2010 - 06:03 PM' timestamp='1265508219' post='2165703'] You said "I guess you folks on that front would have preferred no help at all and eating that many more nukes, huh?" And my point was, you know damn well that Gramlins didn't just hop in to help out its best buddies on that front, they did so because they belatedly came to the same conclusion that everyone else did: If Gramlins didn't participate, the Karma side would definitely lose and the next target would be ... tada ... Gramlins! And at that point, there'd be absolutely nobody to help them. So it wasn't Gramlins helping because they are the most generous righteous people on Planet Bob, they fought for the same reason everyone else did - because if they didn't, [u]they were next[/u]. Don't get me wrong ... I generally like the Gramlins, and I think they are pretty good people. But you can save the "We came in during the Karma War and saved everyone's behinds out of the goodness of our hearts" bit because if it wasn't for your treaty with FARK (and thus ties to Super Friends), Gramlins would have been the one getting rolled instead of VE/OV in the first place. And FARK and the Super Friends stuck by the Gramlins for the same reason the Gramlins fought in the Karma War, [b]primarily[/b], because if you didn't you were dead anyways and, [b]secondarily[/b], because they are all (SFs+Gramlins+Sparta+VE) relatively good people that get along. [/quote] OMG. Someone figured out that we keep our own interests in mind. Kill him!

[quote name='Penkala' date='06 February 2010 - 05:25 PM' timestamp='1265505952' post='2165637'] Honestly, I bet if we go back to the topic where he declared on GOD, I bet we'll see you hailing NpO and Grub. [/quote] I just went through the whole thread and his one post did not involve any hailing.

[quote name='Duncan King' date='06 February 2010 - 10:18 AM' timestamp='1265480326' post='2164804'] Ah, and what ally would that be? FH doesn't look like MHA. That of course is the benefit of secret treaties: the ability to pull treaty ties and allies out of your butt whenever you want. Good hunting, OG! [/quote] Get it right. We are even worse than that. We and none of our friends need a treaty at all.

[quote name='Urmom(U)' date='05 February 2010 - 11:58 PM' timestamp='1265443101' post='2163980'] Hi there to you too, Zombie Glaucon! I'll respond to both of you at once. Grub gave his word to both of us. If he stayed true to his word to us, then he would break his word with you. I would be happy for TOP (from a realpolitik view), but I would understand that you would be very mad. It would be with good reason, even though it isn't relevant to my interests. I would be able to have sympathy for you since you were betrayed. In this case, he "upheld" his word to you in a very weird way, and broke his word with us. Now we are mad, you are happy. Get it now? [/quote] You took someone's word that they would break their word to someone else? TOP was really using the old thinking machine on this one.

[quote name='Methrage' date='30 January 2010 - 07:49 PM' timestamp='1264909764' post='2146458'] To be more specific by what I meant by "good" is you wouldn't jump into wars your not involved with to join the side with the number advantage. I thought Gremlins were against that type of stuff, never saw you as the opportunist type. If you were going to do this why even give peace in the Karma War? I used to respect you guys more than any other alliance, yet now your hitting our ally when they are already heavily outnumbered and I don't even know why. [/quote] Peace is a lie.

How did you make a connection between us going paperless and deciding to use what you think is good as our new FA direction?

You mistake the issue. The criticism is over differing interpretations of how things ought to roll. If he was complaining because he genuinely believed we were behaving in a maladaptive manner, that would be one thing. Complaining that we are not following his "legacy," like a year after he stopped contributing anything to the alliance is quite another. The egomania is strong with this one. Syzygy squandered what respect he got from me by the occasional episodes such as I have referenced above. I don't believe he deserves any special deference. Thus, I have given him none. Since I believe I have made my point as well as it can be made and it is off topic, I will say no more on it.

He can do it but he is not right in doing it. You don't get to piss and moan when things don't go your way after you walked out.

Why don't you go sit back down again? You gave up your right to critique when you left.

It's a little late for that. Edit: Also, don't you have a war to prosecute?

We're not responsible for NPpO's screwups.

The Grämlins hereby announces the cancellation of all its remaining treaties, with the exception of The Härmlin Accords which has no cancellation clause. The Grämlins no longer feels that friendship and allies need be tied by pieces of poorly-written ePaper. Please note that The Grämlins sees no shift in its allies based on these cancellations. If you were our friend yesterday then you are still our friend today. For all you snarky !@#$%^&* who will get off on pointing out that we can't really go paperless unless we also cancel on MHA: no u For your convenience, the affected alliances: Mushroom Kingdom Argent Umbrella Fark FOK Signed, RamirusMaximus, Judicator and evil overlord of Gre SynthFG, Executor and co-head minion Ertyy, Praetor and co-head minion

No comment.

The Grämlins hereby cancels The Midnight Feast with The Order of the Paradox and withdraws from Citadel. All parties have been notified in private and the 72 waiting period has elapsed. Good luck, TOP. Signed, Ertyy, Praetor SynthFG, Executor RamirusMaximus, Judicator han fei zi, Master of the Zealots

No aid requests, please.

As funny and unique as this war was, the best anyone can agree on is Worst War Ever? weak

When/if we enter this war, it will be because we are right in the how and why. Considering all the great thought that went into the starting and escalation of this war, I can see why you might be confused by us firing up the old neurons. I know it isn't customary.

Top notch NPO propaganda as always.

If respect of reality inevitably bites you in the $@!, then I will gladly prepare myself. Voted citadel just because.

Why don't you go write up a CB. If anyone else in your alliance has as much unadulterated paranoia as you, I'm sure you guys are getting ready for the Cit onslaught. No need to keep the world waiting.

Drat. You caught us. Sorry. We really are better than you.

Next war is going to involve terms that are more straight-forward and easier to enforce. Anyway, congrats, Fark. I know it was a hassle.

This. You don't joke with the sith unless you have more guns than them.

All righteous alliances should come together and condemn the evil sith.