Jewelangel

[quote name='Scorbolt' timestamp='1289080771' post='2504292'] 1st point: obviously their fault. 2nd point: 'raiding' someone who has gone rogue on an alliance suddenly seems a lot like slot filling when your target is on a nuclear rampage and you don't intend to use all military means available. I'd want to be able to take down the rogue as quickly as possible to reduce damage to my allies and you would be in the way of that - facilitating the rogue. So given that you were indirectly causing extra damage to AcTi I think they were in their rights to request reps. Now I know they didn't politely request reps or anything, so don't start jumping down my throat. In Batallions position I would have 1st made a request to TKTB to escalate their engagement against the rogue to what I would hope from anyone countering a rogue. If they didn't want to, which is likely considering raiders generally want to profit, I would have asked they peace out promptly. In the scenario where the rogue doesn't allow them to peace out to make room for intra-alliance counters from AcTi (maybe out of appreciation for the ruined stagger) I would have asked for reparations from TKTB. [/quote] Sadly you were not in Batallions position. Had you been this may have gone a completely different way. Also considering they have only had 3 or 4 attacks on our nations so far, I cannot possibly see how they would have been active enough to stagger Tyler in the first place.

[quote name='Mr Damsky' timestamp='1289076475' post='2504216'] Don't you all just love it when proper diplomatic channels are pursued prior to declaring war? Oh wait... [/quote] Your lack of reading makes me giggle... I'd quote you all the posts saying that diplomacy was tried, but I doubt you'd read those too so I will try small words for you.... Diplomacy was tried, he said he'd DoW us. Then a nation attacked one of ours (not one involved with the rogue) using the reason "Orders". As we were expecting a DoW we took that as a sign and fought back. It's not our fault he was slow with posting his thread. Was that simple enough for you?

[quote name='darkfox' timestamp='1289075114' post='2504194'] Back to my original point, this should have been solved diplomatically. [/quote] How many times do we have to say it....WE TRIED DIPLOMACY. All he did was threaten us and demand reps. [quote name='Mr Damsky' timestamp='1289076645' post='2504221'] You $%&@ed up the stagger and then refused to do GA's (even when your reason for declaring was a tech raid)? [/quote] Did you not read that they were doing GA's. They refused to do all other attacks... like any good tech raider would.

[quote name='KingEd' timestamp='1289064916' post='2504027'] Seeing as a majority of your nations are not set to the correct Government/ Defcon Level, I'm going to take that as an indication that you won't perform decently at all. [/quote] You can add terrible war chests to that too

Sexy war flag TIO you all

Nothing better than fighting with our friends

our Turtle brothers and sisters <3

Turtles do not take threats lightly... and we will not cower in our shells.

Treaties between allies always makes me happy so Congrats both of you

[quote name='supercoolyellow' timestamp='1288239017' post='2494879'] <3 Bern That being said, blocs usually work best when there are treaties behind them. That does make them redundant. It also makes them more cohesive and unified. Also I'm not going to lie, generally I don't take ODP blocs all that seriously. Especially when they are made with newer alliances. The addition of IAA to Sirius changes that for me. [/quote] I'm curious to how old you think alliances need to be when making an ODP bloc? TKTB is 365 days old, TCU 468 days, TIO (version 2) 206 days and BTA 488 days.

[center] [IMG]http://d.imagehost.org/0405/siriusbannericons.png[/IMG] [QUOTE]Sirius I: Preamble In the interest in strengthening, the bonds between the alliances on our sphere, the under signed alliances have come together to form a new bloc to signify the Unity, and brotherhood of the Blue Sphere. We strive above all for peace and prosperity to our brethren, Sirius will be a tool with which we further those goals. II: Entry To gain entry to Sirius, an alliance must reside on the blue team, undergo a Q&A and, be approved of by a majority vote of 90% consisting of the current members whom decide to vote. Each member alliance receives one vote in this process If an alliance does not receive a majority vote for entry, they will be eligible to apply again in two (2) months time, after improvement of foreign relations, or alliance conduct. III: Non Aggression No member of Sirius shall ever attack another member, on an alliance wide, or single member scale. If an alliance is found guilty of this, they will be subject to immediate expulsion from the bloc. If the attack is confined to one, or a small group of members, 100% reps will be requested, along with a declaration of peace, failure to comply will result in the aggressors being marked as rogues, and barred from all signatory alliances. In addition, members of Sirius are forbidden to raid blue team nations. If a blue team nation is raided by a member of an alliance in Sirius, the alliance must pay the raided nation back it's losses in full. Failure to comply may result in suspension, and if continued, possibly expulsion, from Sirius IV: Intelligence Information being vital to the survival of any alliance all signatories of this treaty agree, and swear to supply any intelligence, that is considered vital to the safety of that alliance, or the entire bloc. This includes, but is not confined to - Forum Spying, Aggressive behavior against said alliance, and Inappropriate government conduct. V: Optional Defense The members of Sirius recognize war as an inevitability, as well as conflicting sides of allies. Members of Sirius have the option to, but are not bound to defend any member of this treaty during times of war, either militarily or through aid packages. VI: Optional Aggression All members of Sirius reserve the right to offensively aid any other member of Sirius if they feel the reasons for the conflict justify it. Members may request assistance through this treaty, but recognize that the Aggressive assistance is not required. VII: Amendments Amendments can be made to this treaty at anytime with a 75% majority vote by the member alliances. VIII: Termination/Cancellation If at any time a member of Sirius is removed by membership vote, or if they leave of their own free will, the side that wishes to terminate the signature must give seven (7) Days advanced notice, and a short reason for the termination. Signed, For TKTB James Maximus, Turtle Overlord db00, Grand Turtle JewelAngel, Ninja Turtle of Foreign Affairs DogsOfWar, Ninja Turtle of War UFK, Ninja Turtle of Finance For TCU Commander Cato, Governor Galvatron, Lieutenenat Governor PanzerVII, Lieutenant Governor Rga1987, Director of Finance Barix9, Director of Foreign Affairs Rurigok, Director of Internal Affairs 9dj12, Director of Recruitment For TIO Imperial High Commander: Skippy -- Executive Imperial Commander: Sup4l33t3ki11a Imperial Internal Commander: Scorponok Imperial External Commander: Dave93 For BTA Master-Debater, Oracle TheSpoon, Consul For IAA His Majesty, Emperor PHD Grand Vizier Chimaera Imperial Regent Rebirth Grand Admiral Chaos Armed Grand Moff TimeMaster Imperial Exchequer TheListener[/QUOTE] [SIZE=0]tl;dr, IAA joins Sirius, everyone celebrates! [/SIZE] [/center]

[center][img]http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/821/turtleflag.png[/img] [size="7"]The Killer Turtle Brigade would like to invite you all to celebrate our 1st birthday. [/size] [IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/jewel944/tktb1.jpg[/IMG] Come on over to [u]#tktb[/u] for drinks, cake and if you know DogsOfWar.... other things will be free as well. Also db00 wants everyone to be reminded that he hates you all and [u]LOVES[/u] snuggles so remember to do that on joining the channel. [IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/jewel944/unique-cakes-08.jpg[/IMG] Lastly I do have to thank our fantastic leader James for such a great alliance to be in. And also our amazing allies, friends and all our sexy members for the most fun year. Here's hoping for many more. [/center]

Congrats on the merge.

[quote name='Scorponok' timestamp='1287482386' post='2487605'] [i] Also no mention of thanks to Scorponok, for awesome graphics and couch potatoe ruling?[/i] [/quote] I'll mention you... awesome work also hails and such for my TIO loves

<3 Nut... Congrats on 1k

yes o/ us you all that helped

I love it when two allies get closer. It makes it all so much more fun Skippy, TIO, Scorp, Carfre Inpor and NpO

Awesome treaty. Wish I had signed it.... Oh wait. I did This thread needs more: [quote name='Skippy' timestamp='1283838383' post='2444984'] Also, obligatory hails to Jewel \o [/quote]

The only worthwhile person in this gov list is Scorponok since he made my awesome av... just kidding. I them all

[quote name='Lukapaka' timestamp='1282440643' post='2426150'] On the 25th is when the Attacktorate is announced xD (I kid...) Honorable motion from the Killer Turtles [/quote] How did you find out about our secret plans? Seriously tho, it's nice to be able to help friends get a start without drama.

Please add Teyong to this circle. He has Fish and Furs. http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=380042 Thanks Also give it some time. Circles can take a while to complete on here.

[quote name='revaew' date='19 June 2010 - 06:50 PM' timestamp='1276939207' post='2342790'] would you be willing to trade anything? you need wheat but i have wine as my second resource. would you be willing to swap out something for wine? and ill go blue [/quote] I'm sorry but I can't swap anything.

[quote name='Maenalus' date='20 June 2010 - 01:20 AM' timestamp='1276962614' post='2342920'] I am blue, and I have sugar and aluminum. I'm not clear what you have to trade, and I can't find you in the game listed under the nation name in your profile. Can you put up a nation view link or send me a trade request? http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=411235 [/quote] You won't be trading with me. I'm just setting up circles for my alliance members. I will happily add you in tho Also I am ingame under my user name and nation name.

[quote name='coopdogyo' date='18 June 2010 - 04:42 PM' timestamp='1276845151' post='2341694'] I have lumber and Aluminum. Still need to buy a harbor and switch to blue though. http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=411445 [/quote] Added you in.

Added you in