Jewelangel

[quote name='Lord Cyvole' timestamp='1319981990' post='2835001'] Does this mean we get Dogs back? Seriously, though, it's a shame and I wish you all the best of luck wherever you go. [/quote] No. He's mine. [quote name='Ardus' timestamp='1319986058' post='2835027'] Will any of your treaties be carrying over to Polaris? [/quote] No they won't be.

[quote name='James Maximus' timestamp='1319961909' post='2834936'] And so is the end of my favorite creation. o/ TKTB [/quote] <3 you James for such an awesome alliance to be in for 2 years.

[center][img]http://images.wikia.com/cybernations/images/7/71/Turtleflag.png[/img] The Killer Turtle Brigade will be merging into New Polar Order because we love them and they love us. Thank you to those allies and friends who have supported us for 2 years. That is all.... p.s. TIO and NpO will be protecting us in the transition so keep your nukes off my members.[/center]

[quote name='Faust Betreur' timestamp='1303901468' post='2700281'] On a personal note, forgiving the reps had nothing to do with PR since I didn't really expect this to be announced and I knew full well that even if it was, the people who were too blind to see why reps were justified in the first place would hardly be mollified by the forgiving of reps later on. That's neither here nor there, this is a place to congratulate TKTB et al on a job well done, so well done. I wish you the best of luck going forward. [/quote] I had to announce it since it was the best way to thank those who helped.

[center][img]http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/821/turtleflag.png[/img] I come here to announce that we have paid off the SLCB reps. I would like to thank a few people in particular for us getting through these so easily. New Polar Order: You guys are the most awesome allies we could hope for. Thankyou for everything. Hullean from NpO: I know I have said it many times already but I you for sorting the lists and helping me figure it all out. Robster from UPN: How can I thank someone who was generous enough to volunteer to help with our reps even tho you have no ties to us. Evry: You have been my rock dealing with all this while I wasn't online. And thankyou to SLCB for letting us finish up early. [/center]

[quote name='Gofastleft' timestamp='1299972332' post='2661943'] Right you are, I just edited that one in. It still doesn't change the fact that the ally you went to war for peaced out a month ago. Yes, I understand that you were still fighting for NpO even though you never declared in their defense. Like I said, I respect that. [/quote] There was no need to declare in their defense because iFok declared on us. The fact you were fighting both us and NpO meant that we would stay in til they were given peace too. It's a shame that some people don't understand that when you sign a treaty, you are saying you will be there until the very end with them, no matter what it costs you. My tiny alliance has been through hell for our allies and will do it again because thats just who we are. Also thankyou for this: [quote]Like I said, I respect that.[/quote]

[quote name='Gofastleft' timestamp='1299967944' post='2661887'] SLCB are great allies Seems that many are not very good at remembering what happened so please just follow the bouncing ball. iFOK declares war on NpO iFOK gets gangbanged by several alliances including TIO in defense of NpO "The Imperial Order hearby declares war on the iFOK! Alliance, in defence of the New Polar Order." SLCB declares war on TIO in defense of iFOK TKTB declares war on SLCB in defense of TIO "The Killer Turtle Brigade hereby activates its “The Emperor's New Turtle Accords” MDoAP with The Imperial Order (TIO) and declares war on seaworthy liberian cardboard boxes (SLCB) for its attack on TIO." TIO peaces out on 2/6/11. This ended TKTB's responsibility to defend TIO. TKTB was offered peace but refused because NpO was still fighting. It didnt matter that TKTB had not initially declared in defense of NpO or that SLCB was not in war with NpO. TKTB decided to stay in and continue to fight SLCB even though they knew that the simple terms most others received would not be on the table again. Tip of the hat to TKTB for wanting to continue fighting until NpO got peace, even when they knew it was going to cost them. I will tip my cap to them even though I think it was a mistake. I also notice that it is not TKTB members that are crying. No matter what my personal opinion of some of Polar allies are, they are dedicated. [/quote] You seem to have forgotten a step in there somewhere.... Remember this post? http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=98174 We refused to peace out with both of you when TIO did because we will always stand by our allies no matter what it costs. NpO

And you aren't being aided too? The current aid is to contribute to his nuking you, something we all want. VE is a failure as they couldn't ZI him before... no-one aided him then.

Oh big deal, he's in anarchy like 3698 other nations. VE still hasn't managed to ZI him yet, and didn't when they were trying. I wouldn't say this was any kind of victory, just your pathetic attempt at getting attention.

Good to see this finally announced o/ DNA Illum

The only thing my turtles worship is me. Also thanks for the heads up on this DOW. The attacks 24 hours ago were very helpful

Thanks for all the hails. TIO and all our allies. [quote name='Teddyyo' timestamp='1295502491' post='2585355'] Please die quickly. I do not like you for two reasons now. [/quote] [quote name='Batallion' timestamp='1295502757' post='2585403'] I eagerly await to see your alliance's disbandment. \o SLCB, send all of TKTB to ZI. [/quote] You two remind me why I will never disband TKTB

Any gov listing with Merger, AvT and Zessa is awesome in my book. Congrats all

I told you that this wasn't allowed..... but since we will be catching up in July, I'm luckier than everyone else. you.

[quote name='Bernkastel' timestamp='1294096696' post='2562371'] I take it MCXA MDoAP is next, followed by UINE MDoAP? I mean, its kinda TIO policy to MDoAP everyone it seems. Waiting for that 4th IAA treaty any day now. An awful eco/odoap bloc just becomes more and more of a joke. o/ inevitable treaty redundancy [/quote] Without your comments, I wasn't sure if we had done the right thing.... if you disagree, then I know we have made the correct decision. [quote name='Facade' timestamp='1294097184' post='2562384'] I didn't hear about it until tomorrow. You sure are clever Mathias! [/quote] Wow. I thought I was last to know things... but I knew about it before you so yay

[quote name='Mr Damsky' timestamp='1293686660' post='2557955'] I really hope you told your allies about this, TIO. [/quote] They told us too many times... and by many people. This is why TIO are great allies. and 'grats to all

[quote name='bagpuss' timestamp='1293532401' post='2556112'] Speak for yourselves One of us escapoed elsewhere And I like my home so no trying to tempt me away either [/quote] As if we would want you anyway

[center][img]http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/821/turtleflag.png[/img] [size="3"]The Killer Turtle Brigade is please to announce brand new forums at http://killerturtles.tk. [/size] Also we have added a few people to the government: Turtle Empress - Jewelangel NToFA - none NToIA - Evry88 NToW - DogsOfWar NToF - Chandra Nalaar (Please see any Ninja Turtle for FA issues) And lastly we have had a few minor charter changes for those people who actually like reading charters. [url="http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/The_Killer_Turtle_Brigade"]It's on the wiki if you want to read it.[/url][/center]

Can you please change the TKTB forum address Blue Team [code][url="http://killerturtles.tk/index.php"]The Killer Turtle Brigade[/url] (TKTB) - #TKTB[/code] Thanks

Congrats guys. TCU are awesome allies. [quote name='Rebel Virginia' timestamp='1292392890' post='2540038'] [color="#0000FF"]This is disappointing. I do like Burnt and his alliance, but truly, you guys could do a lot better than Stunt Blue Alliance #5.[/color] [/quote] ok so TKTB is #4 so who is #1, #2 and #3?

[quote name='goldielax25' timestamp='1292193827' post='2537650'] I am glad to hear you saying it is TKTB's official position that what WasDrogan did was spying. Pretty much makes this whole thread a complete joke, as both parties are in agreement that VE was spied on by WasDrogan. [/quote] It's still not my official position since I am yet to see any actual proof of spying. What I said was that[b] TKTB does not condone spying[/b] so if someone in VE had given me any actual evidence my choice would have been extremely easy. [quote name='goldielax25' timestamp='1292199354' post='2537767'] Schatt, no deadline was ever forced on TKTB, save for when we asked (not demanded) that they try to get back to us within fortyeight hours, out of respect for Jewel's desire to figure things out and for her own OOC reasons. There was never pressure for an immediate response, which is visible based primarily on the fact that this came out a few days ago, and TKTB never saw war. [/quote] This sounded like a deadline to me: [quote][2:02pm] Impero[VE]: in that case, get me an answer by tommarows update[/quote] Also to those saying that TKTB should have stood behind him, we were, right up to this thread was posted and Was dropping the AA to protect us.

[quote name='goldielax25' timestamp='1292186638' post='2537557'] I personally feel that TKTB should have been tied in with this because they clearly supported what WasDrogan did, but we chose to allow time to pass for diplomacy to take it's course, and apparently for doing that we get painted as the bad guy. [/quote] I'm sorry, how does wanting to get the actual truth before making a decision, instead of giving up a member just on your accustations, pass as "clearly supporting what WasDrogan did"? I have said time and time again that we do not condone spying.

[quote name='Il Impero Romano' timestamp='1292108089' post='2536782'] As I noted in the first line of the reply you quoted, I'm a bit short on time so I haven't had a chance to go through every post here to see what was contested and what was not. Also, please excuse my brevity. The very opening of my conversation with her says otherwise, before I even had a chance to tell her of the issue myself: And later: As you can see, nothing of materiality was contested, in fact the opposite is true, it was admitted. The discussion focused around limiting punishment and simply whether or not they wanted to release him in general. [/quote] I love incomplete logs... [quote] [12:18am] Jewel|away: He told me he jokingly logged into something and that you guys hadnt demasked him [12:18am] Jewel|away: and that he was going to tell you, but was demasked so didnt bother [12:19am] Impero[VE]: apparently, either in a misguided attempt to impress people or for malicious reasons, he decided to log into the NORAD system we run and grab warchest information on others [12:19am] Impero[VE]: then relate that information to those in the little skype chat [12:19am] Jewel|away: he told me he did nothing while in there[/quote] [quote] <DogsOfWar[TKTB]> he has assured us he has taken no intel nor has he shared any [/quote] We can play these games all day of "he said, she said" but its boring. And I, to be honest, hate coming in here.

[quote name='KingEd' timestamp='1292096065' post='2536640'] It truly is. If the evidence does exist of this Skype conversations/logs of information changing hands from Was to TKTB Govt then TKTB is in quite a pickle because I wouldn't let that slide, and I doubt anyone else would either. I think Bob Janova warned against this. [/quote] Other TKTB gov were not involved in the skype conversation. If we were, we wouldn't be asking for evidence of spying. The first we knew about any of this was a conversation with Impero.