Owney OSullivan

^^So, because you were just in a small war, it had you at a disadvantage. So following your logic, the war with IRON had you at a disadvantage when we attacked. (Which is exactly what I said so I have no idea what you're trying to argue here?) And yeah, OP doesn't look for wars they can easily win. Or we wouldn't have attacked the #1 alliance in the game with more than twice our member count, way more NS, and I believe more nukes. They only advantage we really had stat-wise was ANS. Also, I remember a certain war when RE/Syn did a HUGE down-declare on OP, and we still whooped on you guys. (Yeah, we don't forgive/forget) As a matter of fact, I remember a lot of RE down-declares, so even if your point was valid, you would have no room to complain. Oh and btw we didn't wait til day 30 to war, we hit FARK for their down-declare on TFK. Do you think we didn't lose any infra or spend any money in that conflict? Do you think it didn't stop/slow our growth at all? It was a war, there was a DoW and our nations hit FARK. So I don't know why you keep repeating the same "OP waited 30 days to war" nonsense.

[quote name='ADude' timestamp='1311457336' post='2762291'] Really? I never said anything about IRON putting RE at a disadvantage, what they did took balls of course and no one is debating that. As you know fighting a war requires a lot of cash no matter who you fight, when IRON attacked they hit (and we hit them with) our middle to lower tier, those nations still had to burn cash even for IRON also the fact that a few (like myself) were nuked several times and just coming out of the effects when OP declared. its pretty simple stuff to understand. [/quote] Umm, I never said YOU said anything about RE being at a disadvantage due to IRON. If you look at my post, I was quoting jraenar, bud.

Good luck Warriors, and have fun everyone!

[quote name='jraenar' timestamp='1311389109' post='2761747'] I'll bite. It's an up declare if the defending alliance(s) have a better than even chance of winning the fight post-blitz. It's a down declare if the defending alliance(s) have little chance of winning the fight post-blitz. It's a curbstomp if the defending alliance(s) have zero chance of winning, and little chance of even fighting back. I've only seen a few up declares in TE. Most wars in TE are in the grey area between up/down declare. This one is pretty firmly in curbstomp territory. You [i]might[/i] have had a case for up declare if this war happened before IRON's attacks. But calling "kicking 'em while they're down" an up declare is so delusional it's funny. [/quote] Did a small alliance like IRON have you "down"? I thought you guys were going to give them some "assisted suicide". Perhaps they gave you way more trouble than I thought, though I shouldn't be surprised.(For several reasons, really.) Good job IRON! o7 That's honestly the last thing I expected you guys to complain about. They were 83k NS at their peak, attacking the #1 alliance in TE. Solid brass ones, if you ask me. But did IRON really STILL have you at [i]that[/i] much of a disadvantage?

^^^Haha, I love it when people you hit switch to your AA and then try to convince you "We're on the same side bro, why you be attacking me?"^^ It never works, dunno why people think they can trick everyone.

[quote name='HalpImBeingOppressed' timestamp='1311320011' post='2761175'] I like how when you realize your contradictions, you fall back on the ever popular "I DON'T CARE LEAVE ME ALONE" defense. [/quote] Where did I contradict myself? I made no definite remarks as to our reason for attacking RE.

I shall PM them all immediately! After all, it is a matter of great importance and we must get to the bottom of it at once! This is getting trivial, who cares about the DoW reason, stop moaning and fight! That's what it's all about.

Maybe we just don't want you to know why, Adude. Do we truly need a reason anyway? Alliances randomly hit other alliances in TE all the time anyway.

Oh, about that OP not warring til day 30 thing, yeah, we fought FARK. Did you miss the DoW? Anyhow, OP may or may not be attacking RE because someone was mouthing off, perhaps we we just bored as stated in the OP and the running mouth gave us an excuse. But I do not know the true reasons for sure(the deception eludes even me! ), I'm just a foot soldier who doesn't like RE for past actions and is more than happy to remove some of their stats without questioning the reason. Speaking of, 433k NS to 313k NS so far, that's a big chunk. Ouch. No wonder RE people are nitpicking our DoW reason. Oh and I don't think it's OP who's gonna be butthurt when this one's over.

You may want to post in [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showforum=64"]THIS[/url] forum. (This forum is generally for alliance announcements) Good luck finding your trades bud.

[quote name='Stelios' timestamp='1310368693' post='2754307'] Sooo is this officially OPs first war ? [/quote] Why, you wanna dance? I'm pretty good at the tango, but I hear it takes two.

I saw in the other thread that Fark would peace out Kiwis, but when I checked the Kiwi's war screen I only saw 2 wars that were peaced out of the many pages of declarations. So what's it gonna be, Fark? Are your guys offering peace or not, because it doesn't look like it. Kiwis, are you still being attacked by Fark nations? This is the second big down-declare Fark has committed in the last 2 rounds(that I remember, was there more?), when are you guys gonna pick a fair fight? Also, is it really actually fun to curbstomp opponents? Maybe I'm old school like that, but I like a nice even brawl with lots of destruction and fun to be had for everyone. But declaring on TFK doesn't leave a whole lot of room for fun for anyone involved in my eyes...but that's my opinion. Anyhow try to have some fun despite the circumstances, everyone. o7 OP o7 TFK o7 Fark

Good luck, LE! o7

Server maintenance again?

As an Irishman, I can tell you there's really only 2 kinds of Irish luck. Bad, or worse. So perhaps you are right and there wasn't much luck involved here.

o/ PS, always a top-notch alliance. It's sad to see a quality alliance go, you guys are great fighters.

May the Gods be with you on the battlefield, and may the Valkyries take your slain soldiers to Valhalla. o/ The old ways! Great theme, guys.

Even if the war was over, gloating is a poor show.

Actually it was true, I was raptured yesterday. Turns out they have the internet in heaven, and it's like a million times faster. Good thing too, what would heaven be without CN?

I am truly sorry JonBoy, I will have the ambassadors of my nation bring you many shiny gifts and our finest women and whatever else your heart desires!

From what I've read on the topic, what this man and others are preaching is based on a bible verse that they seem to be misinterpreting. I've read the text, there's nothing that says the "rapture" is starting, but it could be taken out of context to seem that way. In any case, if the rapture happens in my lifetime I'd rather stick around for the apocalypse and witness the chaos firsthand. Heavenly forces vs. Hell's demons followed by the earth being destroyed by fire sounds awesome! But yeah this is all BS, people have said the end is near for thousands of years. We're still here. Remember the 90's? Y2K?

[quote name='paul711' timestamp='1305675733' post='2713915'] I am not liking the new TE, this kinda thing happens way too much anymore. [/quote] Agreed. This kind of stuff is ruining TE in my opinion. Perhaps others disagree, but this isn't the spirit of TE. Sure, wars will never be [i]completely[/i] "fair", but some of the wars these past few rounds don't even resemble a fair fight in any way shape or form. It's pathetic, really.

Baby yoshi sounds like the best alias for him yet, it just seems somehow appropriate. Certainly better than "Princess Rosalina". Oh and congrats on peace and whatnot, good luck to TPC and IRON moving forward. Edit:typo

Good luck, Quackers!

Congrats people, long live DAWN!