Cortath

Congratulations to my comrades in GATO!

I win, you lose. See, I can do that too. Thank you for your thoughtful contribution to the discussion.

Our rates changed some months afterwards. This was, after all, back in August '08. But on behalf of the New Pacific Order's Technology Corps, we appreciate your heartfelt and sincere concerns for our people's welfare.

Your ignorance of the NPO economic plan for GATO is particularly deceitful. GATO was given the opportunity to have its members volunteer to enter tech deals with the NPO, and they got a significantly better deal than SSSW18 is getting from Karma right now. Not only did they the 3M/100 rate, which was better than the 3M/150 rate that New Pacific Order tech sellers were getting, but they also got incentive bonuses, which we called "retirement bonuses" based on the number of deals they made. For this precise reason, the New Pacific Order will be funding similar retirement bonuses to our comrades in SSSW18 once their tech deals are complete. We did not view the tech deals with GATO as a one-way street, but as an effective means of rebuilding, and we're proud to be able to help our allies be given that same opportunity.

Ah, a Nasi. Ah, the Athens Accords. I think that's what tied us back in the day.

Aw, we can relate, Neboe! And noble! You are far too kind. You were a statesman of the highest caliber. Still are. You, sir, are the gentleman. Heh. Don't think that's going to happen. Who/where were you in ADN?

Whoops @ triple post. And, hey Neboe. It's been a while.

I was referring to the Alliance Defense Network.

I was referring to the Alliance Defense Network.

I was referring to the Alliance Defense Network.

Do I get honorary ODN membership for being the Secretary of State of the ADN?

I am an Imperial Officer of the New Pacific Order. I suppose that makes me a "leader." While I would not dignify what I read on my war screen as "attacks" or "war," I am in war mode, as are my breathen. And I shall repeat what my Comrade Loucifer said: any member of the NPO is always free to talk to me. Any member of any alliance is always free to talk to me.

We have absolute power? *chuckles* We are very good at what we do, but there is only one God and He is Admin.

Hail the Emperor! Hail the New Pacific Order!

Congratulations to my friends, in GATO! Let me add that outgoing Assembly Chairman MTTezla served honorably and with distinction during a very difficult time for GATO, and I offer him my sincerest congratulations and best wishes.

No, it's not "someone." These aren't the same people. The NPO did not try to plant information in OV in an attempt to do a silly PR stunt.

No. The NPO did not try to plant information to sethb. That is what has been done here. We did not create a PR stunt, or anything else. With OV, the NPO is a victim of spying. Here, the NPO is a victim of a transparent and tactless PR stunt. I'm just here to put poison in the trolls' food. Contact the Emperor or a Foreign Affairs IO for the official stance of Pacifica on any issue.

If you want to open that can of worms, we can. We can order hundreds of our troops to get on IRC, and find members of alliances to send fake information to them, and demand that they too be ZIed in this. If that's the future of warfare, we shall excel at it. I don't think people want to go down that route. This was a transparent PR stunt and a sting operation. The NPO is not going to allow one of our members to be a pawn in this.

No. Ursarkar was the victim of a sting operation and a not-too-clever PR stunt.

No. We declared only about 14 hours ago. This was well before that.

When a person actively and maliciously spies on an alliance or uses information from said spy, a single round of ZI is a mild term.

No. This was a sting operation. If you'd like, the NPO could create an entire squad to go into alliances' channels to try to get them to "accept" information and then ZI each of them. It'd be an interesting war tactic. Is that how you wish the wars of tomorrow to be fought? The terms were refused two days ago. Negotiations ended. They didn't try to talk to us after Moo pinged out. If they wanted to, they could have. If they still want to, they could. This is clear to anyone who reads these forums and has a bit of common sense.

They were the terms refused two days. I can't think of any way to make the terms less: no apology, no reparations, nothing punitive. No membership ban. A single round of ZI. What more do these people want than such mild terms?

No. Our terms were that one of them get a single ZI. That's even less than what you want! Yet our terms were refused.

Yes, it is. I mean, a nuanced explanation of this policy isn't going to work here on the CN forums, as we all know, but I'll try. The NPO does not spy. The NPO does not accept information from other spies. People spy on the NPO. When other people offer information to us with the purpose of catching said spies, we use it. That's what Moo's quote refers to.