Cortath

They should be. For though we prayed that Admin would have mercy on their soul, He has given none.

"Moos own alliance [sic]" did not accept information. One member fell prey to a sting operation. One member does not "Moos own alliance [sic]" make. Some of our members don't eat babies (silly vegetarians), but our alliance eats babies. See how that works?

You're trying to distract the issue at present from the ridiculous PR stunt just attempted, but I am kind, and I shall indulge you: The NPO is forgiving. As has been our policy for eons upon eons, despite what the anti-NPO trolls, from the ADN to CATO to ODN to GATO to LUE to Vox to Blackstone from years upon years to the present: we are a forgiving people. If people want to get off our ZI list, they need but ask and our Emperor generally does so. So, my friend, which way would you like it? Would you like us to be the "ebil" NPO that never forgives and keeps a ZI list of hundreds of members? Or would you like us to be forgiving to those who have wronged us and keep our ZI list as it is at present, with very, very few people on it. Is it hypocritical for hypocrisy to smell like fear? Or is hypocrisy supposed to smell like fear? Is that a paradox? Your metaphysical points fascinate me. I smell likes a mixture of rose potpourri and earl grey double bergamot. Is that what fear smells like?

Hail the New Pacific Order! I'm glad to see you have seen the wisdom of Francoism. Francos Spain was a great a man, and that which he created in the crucible of the August Revolution is an institution that shall never fall, and I welcome you to be a part of it.

It's a moot point. You're attempting to misdirect the issue. The NPO doesn't spy. No one would need to accept information from a spy to out an NPO spy.

Yes, this is a PR stunt. This all happened about 10-15 minutes ago. This member has not given any member of NPO government any information. If we did, we would not accept it. He, for that matter, was clear in those logs knew that this was not appropriate. This was a clearly "sting" operation. We can argue about our ZI policy later. There are enough threads for that. I only eat babies. No lines. Except lines of babies. [edit sp]

We do not and have not accepted information from spies. When our allies give us information to catch a spy who is spying on us, we act on it

Comrade, let me say this. Though our enemies are low, and though they proclaim to be the harbingers of morality and a new order, know this: you have done nothing but honor your comrades of the New Pacific Order with your service. You have been the unfortunate victim of a coordinated PR stunt. You have done nothing wrong. This will seen as the transparent act for which it is. The New Pacific Order has a DoW based on extremely credible evidence of spying and accepting and use of that evidence over the long-term by OV. This is a transparent attempt to create a "you do it too" scenario which is utterly and completely false and manufactured.

This conversation took place minutes ago. This is clearly a PR stunt. Congratulations, you "played" one of our members and offered him free info. This is akin to a sting operation. The Emperor and Government of the New Pacific Order has received no logs from this person, or any person within VE, and if offered them, we would refuse.

The NPO was told negotiations were completed last night. Our final offer was incredibly lenient, and refused. No negotiations were ongoing today.

Moo's stated you can contact him and talk to him. It's your onus to contact him. But you won't contact him, because you don't want peace. You choose to deny the mercy of the Emperor, because you can continue to use it as a propaganda point in your campaign. Vox doesn't want peace; they want eternal war. Vox only wants to be fighting the NPO to their last breath, not because of anything we do, not because of any policy, or because of any war, but because we exist.

I commend the IAA for their friendship with GATO, and as I have been in GATO the past eight months, I know the strength of that friendship and the mutual esteem members (and former, obviously) of those alliances hold for each other. But, no, you and yours don't care for GATO. Fighting the Nww Pacific Order isn't "caring for GATO," it's satisfying your alliance's ridiculous crusade against us. Just because you think that GATO's goals and yours lined up once upon a time doesn't mean you "care for GATO." Many of us in the New Pacific Order poured our hearts and souls into rebuilding GATO, and we forged valuable friendships at both the individual level and the alliance level. Pacifica poured in her specialists to rebuild Ministries, her funds to rebuild nations, and her war machine to fight those who still attacked GATO even while the Viceroy existed. And for Vox to come in and try to reduce and diminish the importance of two historic enemies coming to terms with their pasts and forging a new friendship and future, is frankly insulting to both GATO and the New Pacific Order. And it's because of this that Vox is being forced to attack GATO, with those who are opposed to Pacifica trying to demean the treaty, calling it Stockholm Syndrome and other such things. Because to Vox no one could freely be friends with Pacifica, but GATO, who of all Pacifica former enemies should "know" of our "evil," have become friends with us, and have proven Vox wrong.

Oh, yes, Doitzel. Of course Vox won't admit it publicly. Who would? But it's clear to everyone who has eyes and can read the prattlings of your people on these forums. You gloated in the days of the Viceroy and you weep now that GATO is free. We who have known the self-serving nature of Vox, are unsurprised. But to those who had perhaps begun to believe your lies, to believe that you actually cared for GATO, to believe that you held high-sounding ideals like "morality" and "justice," those people are waking up. You've made it clear. Vox is unhappy that GATO is friendly with the New Pacific Order. Vox expected a bitter and hardened enemy to emerge after the Viceroy ended, but when Pacificans and GATOans looked at each other as equals, we became friends. The truth is that Vox never wanted GATO to be released. They wanted an embittered alliance who could join them on their crusade against the NPO, and Vox's highest hopes have been dashed to despair.

An excellent side-step to the meat of my analysis, Doitzel. I salute you. And yes, your members did fault GATO for signing the treaty. I shall endeavor to enlighten you. As I said before and as I will say again, what Vox fears is that GATO might actually be friendly with the NPO. The implications for Vox are staggering. If an age-old enemy of the New Pacific Order, one whom we fought on the Red Sphere so long ago as CATO, one whom we fought against in the Great War, an enemy with whom we have a longer history than any other enemy in the world, if GATO can make peace with Pacifica and be friends, then Vox's cause is dying. To Vox, GATO is a natural ally. That happens when you believe your own propaganda. Vox perhaps expected, as GATO renewed its sovereignty, that GATOans would be throwing flowers at them or offering them their women (or perhaps the other way around?), but rather than that, we have seen nothing but unanimous and mutual praise by GATOans and Pacificans for each other. What does this mean for Vox? It means the foundations of their ideology have been shaken. Those who they expected to the enemies of the NPO are friends with the NPO. Those who they expected would allies to Vox are being disgusted now that Vox's self-serving tactics have been made manifest. As GATO is quickly learning: Vox never liked you. GATO was a good propaganda point for Vox, from Vox's perpsective, and now they are no longer. These past eight months have allowed GATOans and Pacificans to come together as never before. We are friends. May our friendship spring eternal. And that scares Vox.

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See, the problem with Vox is simply one of immaturity. Vox clamors for Free Speech, but what they really want is Freedom of Action. Their entire propaganda ploy has simply been to try to artificially conflate freedom of action with freedom of speech. Vox wants to be at war with the NPO -- they want to attack us with propaganda, with guns, with tanks, with everything they can throw at us, under the guide of "free speech." And now that clamor for a white peace! They want to continue fighting their war against us, but without us fighting back. Vox: the choice is clear. Those who wish to destroy us and who indeed, actively engage in our destruction will be at war with us. You will have no white peace while you make war against us. You can't have it both ways. No alliance tolerates it. Your actions of the past day demonstrate that our purpose was never "morality" or "justice" but simply a blind and mindless anti-NPO campaign. As many of your brethren so admirably demonstrated in the thread on the Imperial Decree from the Emperor, you've lost a talking point in your campaign, and you're upset about it. And in the thread where GATO announced its first treaty under its new sovereignty, again, Vox demonstrates that its real agenda was never "justice" or "morality" but simply to oppose Pacifica in all things, and rather than praise and congratulate GATO on its first sovereign act, you attack the GATO for making peace with a long-term enemy. Indeed, because that, at the heart of the matter, is what Vox fears the most. Vox wants enemies against Pacifica. It cannot stand the thought that an enemy of Pacifica could ever make peace. And if there is an alliance who has been an enemy of Pacifica longer or who Pacifica has had a more violent history with more than GATO, then I would be surprised. And that's what scares Vox. Because if GATO can become friendly with Pacifica, then anyone can become friendly with Pacifica. If GATO and the NPO can put aside their pasts and build something great and glorious together, a friendship out of a relationship that once was that of enemies, then anyone can.

You deserve white peace? *chuckles* You deserve everything you get and more, and more will be given. Those who wish to destroy Pacifica will be themselves destroyed. Enjoy.

Well, when I say "you," I mean you, Electron Sponge. Ghosting is a tactic of war, and you will be attacked for it.

I think it means they want to surrender, Vladimir.

*chuckles heartily* The peoples of Cortath reciprocate your inquiry.

What you don't understand, mon ami, is that I don't attack you because you threaten me, but because at this point, I simply enjoy it. (and you're a ghost)

I'll be here all week; tip your waitress. *chuckles*

Might I add, Comrade Triyun, that we also provided GATO with substantial aid both in terms of generous terms for selling tech to us, aid for nations who required war aid, as well as aid for special projects.

FAN has been told what to do. If they want peace, they need to fight the war first. All of them. If this isn't "clear" to them, they could try to use private channels to "clarify" the "vagueness." But as I said, those people dedicated to our destruction will continue to be our enemies. FAN was dedicated to our destructions before the first FAN War, after it, and during the present war as well.

We will not free anyone dedicated to our destruction. As has been said time and time again, FAN knows what it needs to do if it wants to be freed.