Desperado

I wasn't really around for it or knew what was going on, but I still here mentioned every now and then the TPF/Atlantis rivalry.

I think I heard some cool facts from magicninja of GATO about how there are now no nations still in the game older than GATO and the closest is now 2 days younger than the founding date of GATO.

One of em has/had a warchest that is only half their NS. Triple digits too.

We have a winner.

In light of the current events on Bob, the Green Protection Agency hereby declares victory in the recently ended Worst War Ever. We thank everyone for their support in this affair as well as the outcome, which shows peace and neutrality always win out. Signed, Nevik, Ringleader Trotsky's Revenge, Wrong Window Moo Archon, People Are Going To Get Mad Because My Name Is On This Mia, Laziest on Bob Skippy, Officer Nasty, and Unleasher of Kozo Jacapo Saladin, Minister of Harry Potter chaz9055, President Drunk F15PilotX, The Uncreative One Blueline976, Minister of Sarcasm Zblueblur0, The Hippie Extraordinaire Gandroff, Commandante of Awesome Jasmine, Hippy Queen Tahuantinsuyo, MooFo Brehon, Smiley King Axel3200, Lurker Extraordinaire Red, Snore Master Flex Ash, el Mariachi Band Leader Trilo, Late Signer R3nowned, The Pie Luver X (Loucifer, Senility strikes again) Tojamn, Brainwashed Minion Draco, Sleeping Dragon Brennan, Pool Boy Dilber, Pantless Thunderbolt DirtDiver, Finally 18 iamthey, Chief Stat-Collector Triyun, Grand Vizier of the Neutral Menace VektorZero, Grand Moff of Awesomeness Solidus, master of Cruise Missiles

I'm bankin on you brown.

/me hands Astraia a cup of coffee. Thanks for all the hard work Mods, Staff, and most importantly Admin.

Article 1. Congrats on the treaty

Sounds like you have mhawk mixed up with someone else.

Voted 'AUT makes better polls'. Thanks for trying.

From Sparta with love? I saw ya jumped the gun, why not just join right in? There aren't any slots, but who cares!

Those logs are from the Karma war, just in case anyone was wondering.

I knew you would do this AUT. This is exactly why you dont get Ops.

Most of the cancellation clauses are 48 hours...

ODN'd, I do believe.

The point you raised was answered. There was speculating as to what might happen if peace was never achieved. For more than 4 months, this was the status. ...and if you really wanted to know, the zh people stated pre-war that they wanted to leave and form there own alliance. A few others wanted to try their own hand as well and left.

No, a vietTPF plan would involve eternal war and peace never being achieved.

They ended it before this. They exclaimed their extreme hatred, both IC and OOC of mhawk, the day after he left. Anything was abandonded before this, especially in their own minds.

The only reason anything was ever thought of was strictly because Athens et all told NPO they would never get peace.

So to clarify the last bit, you are saying your spy mediated talks? Doesn't this seem far from neutral?

Just to throw this out there - most of the Rok CB logs are from private convo's that the ZH people had on their own between themselves. I didn't know that 2 members in the same alliance talking about what they were gonna try and do on their own is a CB...

Here is/was your factbook. Key Aspects Alliance as a Whole: Athens is mainly an economic alliance at this time. While CnG is a large millitary block, Athens is unable to commit wholey to millitary and the wonders/nukes reflect this trend. Government: Londo originated from Camelot and Rsox came from HotU in the merger. These two are the most powerful and control most of Athens, especially government. Most of the other government members are rarely seen on the forums except for JGoods. Protectorates: ATAC, DiCE, UNCE, OA, and Amenthes all began as protectorates. I have linked the Protectorate traties to use as samples. Trends are listed below. NAP/PIAT with ODP is basis for treaty with protection. Must reside at least 75% on aqua sphere. Must also vote for Athens Senate candidate. Only DiCE has survived thus far; the rest have merged back into Athens. This trend continues from before the meger to become Athens. Upgrade can only be reached after achieving 50 members or 500k NS. ***Not obligated to defend Athens, only optional.**** Most important: Athens may require an advisor be present. Aqua ICE: Aqua ICE contains an ODP that can be used for a war. The signatories are split from a "next war" standpoint so this treaty will most likely implode right before the war. Here is the list of FULL(ODP) Signatories. Complaints and Grievences: This is by far the heart of Athens. Being a member of CnG reflects the alliance's commitment to hang around MK. The block is the self proclaimed "best military block in CN." This is the main grouping of Athens treaties and they remain vocal and supportive of all members. While Vanguard and GR seem to be trying to still get into the CnG swing, they are also the newest members. They provide some interesting ties to various other alliances to help solidify CnG. So far, Vanguard & GR have not been as vocal as the rest of CnG but they also do not appear to have the posting capacity that the other members show. There position has yet to be determined but will be in the coming set of treaties and cancellations over the coming months. GR seems to fit from previous treaties but Vanguard may not fit in as easily. Closest Allies: CnG is easily Athens best ally. Of all signatories of CnG, MK is the closest. The MDoAP with FoB reflects the commitment to MK. Sparta is also the closest ally that is not of MADP. DiCE is also fairly close after being raised from an Athens protectorate to MDoAP. Noted Enemies: NPO, SSSW18, TPF - from WoC. The main group that Athens has spats with appear to be NPO and those directly tied or that support any NPO actions. The extreme hatred for NPO has them focusing on the Karma war and on nothing else. Other Treaties of Interest: Kronos brings an interesting connection back to Citadel from the founding of Kronos by former Gramlins. DE would be another black alliance that could enact NOIR; they appear to be a close Sparta ally and the two have thus found Athens as allies. Nothing below MDP appears to hold any real value and most likely will not survive the long haul. Final Notes: Sparta is an interesting tie to Athens. With this tie, as well as a few others for Sparta, it appears Sparta will be dragged onto the SF/CnG side. Athens appears to rely heavily on CnG for all matters. The only other alliance that they show a significant amount of trust is Sparta. Athens will most likely follow MK in whatever setup they plan. GGA may soon treaty Athens after the recent #%$fest that was had on the OWF. This will not really affect anything as it is the GGA.

The OOC war.

Wasn't this about DF attacking NSO and not vice-versa?

Oh joy, a holliday poem! Nice changes there agnu & anubis