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[quote name='Duncan King' timestamp='1293832281' post='2559506'] A GOD protectorate merging into UPN. There's a joke in there somewhere. I liked UU, so I won't make it. Good luck in your future UPN, UU! [/quote] There's an irony or perhaps they just noticed what a great folk there is in UPN. Edit: In before the first rumors of an UPN-GOD treaty.

[quote name='TheyCallMeJeezy' timestamp='1293831936' post='2559499'] You had a good run Kev, good luck in UPN. [/quote] Yeah. Good luck in UPN

Didn't we go through this some time ago?

Number 10 is missing.

[quote name='PMoses' timestamp='1293586697' post='2556763'] First off for Mr. Damsky here.. Kevin declared on me and ran a perfect strike, and said I raided one of there nations.If you look back in the war reports, you will see no raid by me on a UN nation. Then Eric the powerful, there MoD sent me a threatening PM stating I will peace out Kevin, or the UIR will attack us. I talked to the UIR, and actually even talked to the alliance that is protecting UIR.. Wow.. really, a protectorate has a protectorate??? Huh.. Yes, AzN actually protects UIR, and UIR does not protect UN, nor do they wish too. After I told Kevin he will pay me 3million, 50 tech in Reps, ( I actually think I typo'd the first time and it looked as if I demanded 3million and 500 tech.. but you can actually see the possibility of that typo. Either way it was corrected, and kevin was told he could have peace.. Then he said he has no aid slots and can't pay his reps, but was very sorry he attacked me, it was a mistake, and he was noob that didn't know what he was doing. Well he ran perfect CM, Air, CM, Air, GA, GA attack structure, which is the norm for most trained in CN. Not a 6 day noob, who usually doesn't know how to use air, and cms yet. So obviously not a noob mistake. He couldn't pay reps I continued my war with him. In came the threats of President MAS claiming he has 15 alliances protecting him, and one was MHA... LOL.. really, MHA has interest in a 10 man alliance who we are obviously not the first to have issues with them. Several alliances have stated they like to attack aligned nations then play it off as noobs. Either way, he attacked one of my guys after we all started giving peace to the UN guys. So I seen President MAS make an aggressive action back at my alliance, I returned the favor on him. Then he sent threats once again about 15 alliance's that were declaring on Exodus on his behalf, and will be nuking us. So, Not that I have to explain myself to you, nor much anyone else in CN.. I can count at least 3 legit CBs in this, not that that matters, many wars have been fought over way less.. Like you know the 19 bandwagon alliances that jumped NPO or TPF in the karma war.. so please take your non educated opinion somewhere it counts. Thank you. [/quote] PMoses, having wrestled through your post i think i see your point. However, use spaces interpunction and allinea to make it readable. Right now i doubt many will make an effort to understand what you try to say.

[quote name='Straylight' timestamp='1293507202' post='2555825'] While I like most alliances involved with IC, this was a smart move. Good luck guys, especially NSO and NATO. [/quote] I think this post was meant for [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=96255"]this topic.[/url]

[quote name='Pingu' timestamp='1293502127' post='2555728'] Speculators gonna speculate. [/quote] That much is true. You can't help but notice the irony of the situation though. Before karma when the former hegemony engaged with superior number those on the opposite side of the fence complained and used it as an excuse to demonstrate how "evil" the hegemony was. Now, several months after karma, those alliances who were previously on the opposite side of the fence defend such a curb stomp as a legitimate strategy. I'm sure this will be laughed away as another "the new hegemony is as bad as the old hegemony" but it does make you wonder.

[quote name='Barnaby von Farter' timestamp='1293462661' post='2555278'] I'm flattered that you've compared my alliance to a [ooc] global superpower.[/ooc] Looks like we failed to impress the right people, which is really all we were going for. [/quote] [s]As i recall my history lessons "a global superpower with an inflated image and barely able to defend its own borders". I'm sure the image painted is not applicable to your alliance.[/s] Edit: I withdraw that statement because its overly harsh and can easily be explained in the wrong way. The [s]code[/s] is in case it's already quoted. Although our friends at GOONS will be swift to point out it can be strategically beneficial to overwhelm your opponent by numbers to avoid significant losses to yourself, considering the numerical advantage ODN, TPE and INT already had at the start of the conflict with NEW one can ask oneself if it was necessary to bring yet another ally into play (Sparta). Are two sanctioned alliances + allies not a bit overkill?

Yeah, the increase in alliance strength has been really funny to observe

You need to realize that NEW would have fought with or without allies because they love war too much. As i understand NEW's last announcement they believe they had every right to raid DF because it was a disbanded alliance and didn't fit their criteria for an alliance anymore. Having said that i expect that NEW intends to go into the NEW year with plenty of fireworks. I'd say have fun NEW.

Too bad any infusion of money into your nation would be a DoW against FARK.

[quote name='Earogema' timestamp='1293097167' post='2551440'] Eh, I applaud GOD here. If GOONS didn't try to prevent the TOP-MK treaty, nor did they cancel on MK for it, they agree with the treaty. GOD says it won't follow down that path. If GOONS isn't going to use their leverage to prevent MK from signing a treaty, as well as be ready, and able, to defend TOP should the need arise, then the GOD/GOONS relationship isn't going to work out. Besides, if that's what did it, you were hardly "friends" in the first place. [/quote] The second time in this topic i agree with a member of CoJ What happened to planet bob!! [quote name='Xiphosis' timestamp='1293100670' post='2551464'] snip [/quote] Although i do not share your opinion of some of the alliances you mentioned i have to give respect that you certainly stand by your believes. Good luck to all involved.

[quote name='goingcommando' timestamp='1293052144' post='2550360'] Whats a good white alliance? [/quote] You shouldn't ask for the impossible (People are going to be mad at me) Without kidding now.. NEW, WAPA, TPF look em up on the wiki for general info

[quote name='Tulak Hord' timestamp='1292997687' post='2549464'] We here at Sparta love our buddies at ODN. ODN is in a state of war. As such, Sparta hereby declares war on the alliances of Europa and WFF. [/quote] I agree with coming to the aid of your allies, but i question if it was necessary considering the already overwhelming odds against NEW and allies.

Good luck to all involved.

[quote name='Drexler Villepin' timestamp='1292931809' post='2548221'] Excuse me? [/quote] The recent NEW-DF-Allies war has gone nuclear at update. The GRL will rise and continue on its high level for 30 days after the end of war.

[quote name='Bob Janova' timestamp='1292892278' post='2547252'] Yeah, I was going to mention that. It's a very important strategic consideration, even if the nation's individual fighting ability is not affected. [/quote] Would be epic if the no-declare in anarchy was changed. It would be radically change alliance warfare. A nation could still declare in anarchy.. almost sends shivers down my spine.

If they enter we can at least add "Terrible Operational Security" to the WFF war fact finding sheet. Time will tell.

[quote name='Batallion' timestamp='1292829157' post='2546148'] WFF will be joining the war tomorrow so that should be interesting to see. [/quote] If and when that happens we'll see how it goes. Could actually be interesting since their only war record from the wiki is the Top-C&G war. Three times white peace and i haven't heard anything about their fighting prowess. Perhaps WFF is an yet unknown fighting monster.

[quote name='Quiziotle' timestamp='1292823808' post='2545874'] epic...my only question is...wheres the beer trucks. [/quote] Why do you need those, i emptied them already.

[quote name='ImperialCubanacan' timestamp='1292854626' post='2546507'] I voted. I know who it is. But you don't. [/quote] You voted MK. Open poll remember

[quote name='thedestro' timestamp='1292805201' post='2545153'] UPN crumbles some more and behold the man who redundantly names himself the founder UPN. I don't see why this is supposed to be a game changer [/quote] [quote name='camerontech' timestamp='1292805576' post='2545160'] Peggy Sue once asked me what UPN had to do to change it's horrible reputation on the OWF....I don't think this is it. [/quote] Let's be honest here folks, in your eyes nothing short of disbanding could redeem UPN. Congratulations to Atheus, You've got a tough job ahead of you, but i look forward to working with you in the future. Good luck to PS in her new alliance.

[quote name='Tygaland' timestamp='1292797759' post='2544977'] My pants are clean. Feel free to verify with a sniff test if you like. [/quote] I didn't think tigers wore pants. Grrr Ninjad by caligula

[quote name='Ardus' timestamp='1292779277' post='2544537'] We're not signing with IRON. You saying it over and over again while doing unspeakable things to yourself with your eyes closed doesn't make it happen. [/quote] Ah a denial, the treaty between MK and IRON must be really close to completion then

I have no problem with said alliance (used to be allied to them), but i know that the antipathy between that alliance and IRON is quite high. When allied to said alliance, it pushed to drop a treaty with IRON in favour of a treaty with them. They were quite insulted when they were told we did not drop treaties simply because one of our friends "told" us to. Anyway, said alliance is currently still warm in bed with the remains of C&G so even if a MK/IRON treaty is signed it probably won't go anywhere. Could be anough to make said alliance swallow a few times.