United Italy Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Brengstklau: i attacked you. UCR: wow you guys suck UCR: PAY BACK! Brengstklau: YOU CANT DO THAT! WE ATTACKED YOU! Brengstklau: Thats it. For defending yourself we get 100 tech, 1,000,000,000 dollars, some new shoes, a gun, another list of things, and a book that will help us with our ego issues. UCR: Up yours you attacked first and you disobeyed your own law. Brengstklau: Ok since were bigging and stronger we dont care. Were gonna attack you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChairmanHal Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Already thought about it. Sadly, I cannot hit a 30k nation D: We could try aiding up their largest one. Think he'll suspect what we're up to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slonq Posted September 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 http://www.cybernations.net/search_wars.as...yallexact=exactInteresting... Also, slong, this is just a suggestion but provide screens or logs of them demanding 100 tech from you. And did you attempt to diplomatically solve the issue before ordering your nations to attack the tech raider? There should be a screenshot available shortly, I wasn't sent the letter so I can't screenshot it. No, I did not attempt to diplomatically solve the issue because I checked their raiding policy and saw that the nation was on his own and would not be supported by his alliance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RA2Leader Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 (edited) Also, slong, this is just a suggestion but provide screens or logs of them demanding 100 tech from you. Edited September 16, 2009 by RA2Leader Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velken Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 The Soviet Union fully supports our comrades in the UCR. They are clearly the victims in this situation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilien Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 The Soviet Union fully supports our comrades in the UCR. They are clearly the victims in this situation Does this mean you'll actually be giving them some meaningful assistance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velken Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Does this mean you'll actually be giving them some meaningful assistance? As a small alliance we are limited to what we can do but will assist them in anyway we can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilien Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 As a small alliance we are limited to what we can do but will assist them in anyway we can. Words are cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masterfod Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Don't you dare try to downplay the severity of this. The UCR was unjustly attacked by your protectorate and then extorted by the very same. What you are telling this alliance to do is "get over it." I'm disgusted and outraged. This offense is not to be marginalized and forgotten. At least by me it won't, and rest assured my good sir, GDA will be remembered as the alliance that condoned this injustice and made it possible for the offender to pull it off. Wait, what? I'm not sure if you're trying to put words in my mouth, or if you have some personal vendetta against us, or if you've simply misunderstood the events leading up to this declaration. The offending nation, the one who has been in an alliance for only 18 days, the one who's 37 days old, is still new to this game. He made a mistake. UCR then decides to declare war on him, ICB asks them to stop while they discuss the matter. UCR refuses. ICB gets tired of UCR wasting their time, and then asks for reps (which I have said in my "Official stance" that I do not condone). And here we are. Now, I don't know if you do it differently, but if someone raids a GDA nation, I head on over to the offending party's IRC channel, let someone know about it, we discuss reparations, and we both go on our merry way. I do not send 3 nations to counterattack, because that just escalates the situation. And I think it's safe to say, about 90% of raids out there are simply nations who do not know the general rules of CN and have no other malicious intent. I have said I am working on a solution, and I am hopeful that this can resolve peacefully, as I have said before. For the last time (because someone will probably miss this part) the reparations asked by ICB are something I don't agree with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velken Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Words are cheap. I don't see you doing anything? What are you doing to help them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masterfod Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 There should be a screenshot available shortly, I wasn't sent the letter so I can't screenshot it.No, I did not attempt to diplomatically solve the issue because I checked their raiding policy and saw that the nation was on his own and would not be supported by his alliance. Why the hell not? Did you want a war? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilien Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 I don't see you doing anything? What are you doing to help them? Watch. (and learn) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsuki Koizumi Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 I don't see you doing anything? What are you doing to help them? comrades, no need to bicker among ourselves! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
United Italy Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Master Fod you wanted war like a !@#$% because you knew they were small alliance. SO if you want backing from everyone its not gonna happen. We all will see the UCR victorious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velken Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Watch. (and learn) lol Ok Vilien you do that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsuki Koizumi Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Why the hell not? Did you want a war? why did you not highlight this part: There should be a screenshot available shortly, I wasn't sent the letter so I can't screenshot it.No, I did not attempt to diplomatically solve the issue because I checked their raiding policy and saw that the nation was on his own and would not be supported by his alliance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masterfod Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Master Fod you wanted war like a !@#$% because you knew they were small alliance. SO if you want backing from everyone its not gonna happen. We all will see the UCR victorious ... the hell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsuki Koizumi Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 ... the hell? i said that too, even after i PMed him to stop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilien Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 lol Ok Vilien you do that Don't worry, I'll be hanging on your approval the entire time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slonq Posted September 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Wait, what? I'm not sure if you're trying to put words in my mouth, or if you have some personal vendetta against us, or if you've simply misunderstood the events leading up to this declaration.The offending nation, the one who has been in an alliance for only 18 days, the one who's 37 days old, is still new to this game. He made a mistake. UCR then decides to declare war on him, ICB asks them to stop while they discuss the matter. UCR refuses. ICB gets tired of UCR wasting their time, and then asks for reps (which I have said in my "Official stance" that I do not condone). And here we are. Now, I don't know if you do it differently, but if someone raids a GDA nation, I head on over to the offending party's IRC channel, let someone know about it, we discuss reparations, and we both go on our merry way. I do not send 3 nations to counterattack, because that just escalates the situation. And I think it's safe to say, about 90% of raids out there are simply nations who do not know the general rules of CN and have no other malicious intent. I have said I am working on a solution, and I am hopeful that this can resolve peacefully, as I have said before. For the last time (because someone will probably miss this part) the reparations asked by ICB are something I don't agree with. First off, it doesn't look like a mistake. It seems perfectly clear that as the reason for the war is a "moral dispute", my alliance member was attacked because he was a Communist. Second, ICB demanded reparations at the same time as they asked for a ceasefire. Also, we did not "send" 3 nations to attack. The UCR government gave the green light for nations to attack the offending party, and 2 nations decided to take the offer. (the only 2 in strength range) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velken Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 comrades, no need to bicker among ourselves! I agree, but I won't stand by and be talked down to for no reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kulomascovia Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Master Fod you wanted war like a !@#$% because you knew they were small alliance. SO if you want backing from everyone its not gonna happen. We all will see the UCR victorious Actually UCR is woefully outnumbered and no one wishes to offer support. So seems like they're just going to get curbstomped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
United Italy Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Well lets put it this way. The UCR is the vitim. Your member raided one of theres so they responded in a natural way in which everyone else would respond. Of course you knew that your member broke the rules but you still wanted them to pay for the damages even though the alliance was just protecting itself. So your alliance is just war mongers, who think they dont have to go by the rules because the other guy is smaller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masterfod Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 First off, it doesn't look like a mistake. It seems perfectly clear that as the reason for the war is a "moral dispute", my alliance member was attacked because he was a Communist. Second, ICB demanded reparations at the same time as they asked for a ceasefire. Also, we did not "send" 3 nations to attack. The UCR government gave the green light for nations to attack the offending party, and 2 nations decided to take the offer. (the only 2 in strength range) ...? I'm pretty sure that's not the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2burnt2eat Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 I love how Slonq can post propaganda, and everybody immediately takes it it at face-value, and as the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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