Arkantos Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 If a weapon that only ever reached prototype stage, like the XM8, is a weapon we want to use, but it was canceled before it reached development stage, can we RP the completion of the research and production of the weapon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 (edited) it depends. What tech level are you at, and when was the prototype developed and dismissed? Edited July 3, 2009 by Subtleknifewielder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoo Nova Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 If a weapon that only ever reached prototype stage, like the XM8, is a weapon we want to use, but it was canceled before it reached development stage, can we RP the completion of the research and production of the weapon? If you have modern technology and have no saved stats...I don't think there is anything that stops you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkantos Posted July 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 I qualify at modern tech level and the weapon in question was scrapped in '05. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Seb Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 I don't see the problem with that. The problem is that it WAS scrapped for a reason, and fixing it probably causes problems. You'll have to come up with a realistic solution for it to be effective I think. But that's just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael McBride Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 I don't see the problem with that. The problem is that it WAS scrapped for a reason, and fixing it probably causes problems. You'll have to come up with a realistic solution for it to be effective I think. But that's just my opinion. I'm pretty sure the main reason was Congress didn't want to give funding, it didn't meet the weight requirements, there was a problem with overheating on the handgrip, and the magazine needed to be fixed... I personally wouldn't care about the weight all the much, and the other stuff isn't all that difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkantos Posted July 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 And then there is the XM-25... which hasn't been scrapped, it's just waiting on a light gun to emerge that's compatable with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeVentNoir Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Generally, if it was in-development, then canceled, its one stage higher than the time. For example, a weapon that was in-development in 1985 then canceled would be a modern weapon, a weapon in development in 2003 then canceled would be a first world weapon. Both the X8 and XM-25 would be first world weapons, needing 1500 tech +. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Hmm...can't fault that reasoning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevz Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Actually you can have the Prototype weapons now if you wished its all up to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynneth Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Actually you can have the Prototype weapons now if you wished its all up to you. Look at what LVN wrote. Look at it, Kevz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevz Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Look at what LVN wrote. Look at it, Kevz. The tech scale is a guide line not a rule so he doesn't have to follow it if he doesn't want to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 The tech scale is a guide line not a rule so he doesn't have to follow it if he doesn't want to. Of course, he can expect fewer people to Rp with him if he doesn't. However, I see no problem with him RP'in it in development, like it was then... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V The King Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Its effectiveness in war is still limited by the tech scale, either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Its effectiveness in war is still limited by the tech scale, either way. Of course. and if it's in development, he wouldn't be using more than a prototype anyway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkantos Posted July 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 I was really only going to pursue the XM8 as a special forces weapon, so it wouldn't be in mass production anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Then I'd say go ahead and use it. Special forces often use technology that is considered "ahead iof its time." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerreyRough Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 (edited) Since no one has developed it, I would expect that you would need to start from scratch; but there isn't really anything stopping you. I can be considered a third-world to first-world "no new stuff" nation (second world?), but I've made my own tank and my own gun. For the record, I don't follow the "third world, first world" thing at all, nor' the old tech scale. I just have fun. Edited July 3, 2009 by JerreyRough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkantos Posted July 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 (edited) I have the XM8 listed as a weapon, but I'll give it a month to be developed as a weapon, then I'll do what the U.S. does: Test weapons with the special forces, if it works great and they like it, introduce it to the regular army. Edited July 4, 2009 by Arkantos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamthey Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 The tech scale is a guide line not a rule so he doesn't have to follow it if he doesn't want to. Eh, then its grounds to purge during a war, and suddenly your troops have no weapons, or your planes don't exist. ect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowsage Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 (edited) Or he can just refuse to play by your rules, ala Frost. Edit: Rez, my bad. Damn iTouch didn't display the date. Edited July 25, 2009 by Shadowsage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElCid Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 (edited) Hopefully I'm not grave digging here... But an XM-8 is not a war winner. In fact, it has no strategic (not tactical, not individual, it may have those) over an AK-74 or an AR-15. Your money is far better vested in larger weapons. Edited August 1, 2009 by ElCid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynneth Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 Hopefully I'm not grave digging here... But an XM-8 is not a war winner. In fact, it has no strategic (not tactical, not individual, it may have those) over an AK-74 or an AR-15.Your money is far better vested in larger weapons. Topic's been dead for a week and is no CNRP-factbook or CNRP-newsthread. This may just be a gravedig. However, I do share the sentiment that the XM-8 could be vastly improved. Still looks cool, though. B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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