Maelstrom Vortex Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 "Fair? Fair would be returning the land to it's rightful owner, not the invader. You're attempting to create a compromise, which is not what this situation needs." "We're giving the nation credit for its investment since the war. That is fair. Yes, we are creating a compromise of sorts because the situation merits somewhat of one, mostly favoring Slavorussia over CSSR, but also considering CSSR work in the region. Again, let us do our job as arbitrators please. If it gets down to it and the dispute cannot be resolved we will remove ourselves from resolution efforts." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberstein Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 "We're giving the nation credit for its investment since the war. That is fair. Yes, we are creating a compromise of sorts because the situation merits somewhat of one, mostly favoring Slavorussia over CSSR, but also considering CSSR work in the region. Again, let us do our job as arbitrators please. If it gets down to it and the dispute cannot be resolved we will remove ourselves from resolution efforts." "I do not see any evidence of the CSSR investing in the area. I have a question, if someone invaded your territory, took all of India from you, built a few houses, and then you managed to return to power, would it be fair to you to only take half of India back?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justinian the Mighty Posted July 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 "Then that would lead us to option C. Slavorussia would compensate CSSR for the full price of any investment and Slavorussia would obtain the land in entirety based on historic pre-gnr war boundaries." Compensation can be arranged, despite the fact they nearly bombed us to the stone age. "Fair? Fair would be returning the land to it's rightful owner, not the invader. You're attempting to create a compromise, which is not what this situation needs." Compromise, is the root of diplomacy. If we’re too harsh we we'll only risk giving the CSSR another reason to war with us again. One thing is certain however, Slavorussia will be whole again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 "If it brings a permanent peace to this near-asian region, the Dragon Empire would be glad to fund 0 interest financing out of the Sovereign Wealth Fund. I know your region's been harmed greatly in the conflict, but this would make sure you had what you need to rebuild and to keep CSSR from losing its assets." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberstein Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 "If it brings a permanent peace to this near-asian region, the Dragon Empire would be glad to fund 0 interest financing out of the Sovereign Wealth Fund. I know your region's been harmed greatly in the conflict, but this would make sure you had what you need to rebuild and to keep CSSR from losing its assets." "You keep claiming they have assets. I have yet to see any evidence of this." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 The Chairman facepalms, "You're not giving them time to present it either." He sighs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberstein Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 (edited) The Chairman facepalms, "You're not giving them time to present it either." He sighs. "They have had PLENTY of time. The war has been over for almost a YEAR. It is not our fault their government is unstable and slow. If they are this slow to respond to a diplomatic situation, what evidence is there that they can build infrastructure quickly?" Edited July 6, 2009 by BaronUberstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Terra Di Agea Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 "We are unsure of two things: 1: Why would a nation that has said in the past that it will take to care to politics of the world out of Asia brokering this agreement? It seems absurd. Europe is capable of handling it's own problems. Go away. 2: Why is this even an argument? The CSSR attended no peace talks. They did nothing but surrender. They should have to pay like every other nation. Now, they are refusing to cooperate, and have done nothing but continue old polices. They derve punishment, and a cede of lands to their rightful owner seems like the least they should be required to do." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 "I guess the ones debating our presence here haven't noticed that CSSR and Slavorussia thus far have appreciated our efforts and our time for reasons they have stated. We care about peace. We are not meddling, we are facilitating. If we find our efforts will not be fruitful at all, we do intend to move on and not bother any further. This is us trying to solve a situation between a pair of friends. If something is ignoble about that I would like to know what it is." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberstein Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 "I guess the ones debating our presence here haven't noticed that CSSR and Slavorussia thus far have appreciated our efforts and our time for reasons they have stated. We care about peace. We are not meddling, we are facilitating. If we find our efforts will not be fruitful at all, we do intend to move on and not bother any further. This is us trying to solve a situation between a pair of friends. If something is ignoble about that I would like to know what it is." "Your terms of the peace are completely spineless, you are letting the aggressors of an unjust war keep their ill-gotten lands because they claim to have built more on it in a year than Slavorussia has in hundreds." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 "I am not the one issuing terms here. I am helping terms be negotiated. You should be careful who you call spineless. We are working towards a joint resolution. I have many options the sides may chose between. I understand the depth of what i am negotiating, your allusions I do not are insulting. I will let the wisdom of Slavorussia determine what they are willing to and not to accept. They know what they can withstand." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manetheren Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 The Tahoe Republic supports Slavorussia in its reunification efforts. It is nothing more than a crime against humanity to force a nation to live apart from itself and the region in question has been part of Slavorussia for hundreds of years and, excluding recent times, an integral part of the Slavorussian state in whatever form. We call upon the CSSR to cede Southwest Russia to Slavorussia immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 "We acknowledge global opinion on this matter, it will be up to the negotiations participants to decide how this impacts their decision on what form of conclusion they may be willing to accept." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triyun Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 You own land that does not belong to you. You claim to be against Imperialism, yet own land that was never yours and does not belong to you. You claim that a few months of infrastructure is worth MORE than hundreds of years of history. You forget that you have surrendered unconditionally, you have no say. OOC: I remind you this is private correspondance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberstein Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 (edited) OOC: I remind you this is private correspondance. OOC: Where does it say that. And that doesn't make my points any less valid. Edited July 7, 2009 by BaronUberstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 "We need to know what both parties think of option C. Option C is that CSSR gets compensated for its development work during the post war period and Slavorussia reclaims its lands." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justinian the Mighty Posted July 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 "We need to know what both parties think of option C. Option C is that CSSR gets compensated for its development work during the post war period and Slavorussia reclaims its lands." We like option c, it seems like a willingness for both sides to compromise, and set a tone for future relations. We’re willing and capable of compensating the CSSR. Despite the current condition of our economy, our coffers are very deep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 OOC: Now if only Triyun was abkle to post yay or nay, this could progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 Oh Triyun... wakkee uuuuppp.. lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEDCJT Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 Oh Triyun... wakkee uuuuppp.. lol. OOC: Perhaps you can try PMing him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justinian the Mighty Posted July 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 Slavorussia's diplomat sighs "We're loosing our patients gentlemen. What's your answer?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 (edited) The Chairman looked at his watch. He then looked to Slavorussia's delegation. "The Empire has seen this nation's.. 'willingness' to talk.. so we're walking away from this as it's making no forward progress. Feel free to take whatever action you like. We won't be disturbed.. in the slightest." With that the Imperial delegation stood up.. shook their heads.. picked up their things and left. "If you need any help, our salvation army will be ready to distribute humanitarian aid." Edited July 14, 2009 by Maelstrom Vortex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justinian the Mighty Posted July 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 It's the opinion of the Slavorussian government that the Russo-Crimean Soviet Socialist Republic of Crimeastan has violated its surrender terms. Therefore we will have to meet with the coalition countries to determine the fate of the CSSR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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