Subtleknifewielder Posted June 9, 2009 Report Share Posted June 9, 2009 "Perhaps. Yes, it might be a good idea. Also, I have another nation I have invited. The nation of Annihilation. They have proven to be a voice for peace and stability, and I would have another such voice in this alliance." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 "I like all the ideas I'm hearing here and will approve them if moved upon. We're already greeting Singapore directly ourselves." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silhouette Posted June 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 We are glad you brought that up. WE have been meaning to discuss the relationship between the AC and the Dragon Empire/Bloc for some time. I imagine that both our firends here feel, like me, that the current influence of the Empire is so great, that any dissent could have explosive consequences for the region. Ourselves here in New Cymru are greatly concerned, and, though we believe you woudl not purposely endanger us, we do not want to end up as collateral damage in your fight for survival, should anything go wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 (edited) "I have never moved to crush dissent, I've always moved to work with folks and usually made the most concessions when working towards peace. While I understand New Cymru's concern, my fear is that if you don't stand for something.. you stand for nothing.. what will this coalition stand for if one of its most peaceful and negotiations oriented members cannot depend on it and is exiled?" "Take this most recent set of negotiations. You had concerns about Andonia expanding so it only got a sliver of its initial request." Edited June 10, 2009 by Maelstrom Vortex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silhouette Posted June 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Sir, keep in mind we are aware of the true state of affairs in that fiasco a few years ago. Dragonsian missiles fired in a first strike capacity? Not to mention the sea crawlers. Negotiations oriented perhaps, but always negotiations where you hold something over the other party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 (edited) "Ancient history. The Sea-Crawlers sleep in a defensive position.. unused derelicts like nuclear missiles sitting in silos without purpose but to keep the nation's shores safe. The protocols that allowed for that first strike have long since changed to a much more safe and triple redundant standard. We held nothing over you save for the concern for the Andonian people and the help we'd given our brothers in more recent history. We have shed blood for you and our allies to liberate them from the yolk of oppression.. is it forgotten now that we have regained strength? We still need you. I believe you still need us. If not for any other reason then because we have marched side by side throughout the course of our history." Edited June 10, 2009 by Maelstrom Vortex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Tintagyl Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 "Gentlemen please." Sarah rose her hands between the two men. "Chairman, no one is doubting the the Imperial ability of the Dragon Empire to stabilize Asia. Though I believe that because of its large size, many people feel intimidated by its power. To start with, the Andonian situation and the subsequent New Cymreag expansion both sit ill in my stomach. The negotiations went through far too quickly, while large pieces of information were not given on either the current situations in Andonia, by an Andonia representative, or why New Cymru needs the land that they acquired. However gentlemen, that issue is over, I would rather not continue to bring it to the table. If Andonia is content, if Dragonisia is content, and if New Cymru is content then I do not believe we have anything to argue about." "Chairman I have said this before, it is not that any of us distrust Dragonisia, it is that we distrust Mega-States. Just like Nordland and the United States. But if the Empire is a peaceful and stabilizing force as you said it would be then our fears will be disproved and everyone can move on with their lives." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silhouette Posted June 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Perhaps I can quell the Hansa's concerns. While a protectorate is a noble thing, the people still suffer, as no true central government exists to provide guidance. We have provided. Furthermore, direct control over the area allows taxes and levies on trade to be nearly abolished. This improves our economy, the quality of life, and the productivity of both our home and our colony. It also gives us better access to raw materials that can be used for all of the coalition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 (edited) "The Empire wants little more than stability and security for what it already has and its allies. We have no need to expand save for select states like Andonia who had no access to arable land to feed its growing population.. problem now somewhat solved. There should be plenty of rice patties in Burma to fix their situation without sending domestic food markets into the stratosphere. I'm not sure why New Cymru wanted the Malay Peninsula, but we weren't concerned overly much about that as a simple solution to the crisis the state of Andonia had. The Rulers of Andonia are a very quiet lot, they tend to trust in me to do much of their negotiations, only coming forward when they must. Perhaps more might have been said about their situation hadn't they been ushered out on armed escort. I'd never do that to a friend of an ally, let alone a member state, but that is me." "We're not going to be like the U.S. The members of our empire are stable, co-operative regimes seeking little more than to develop what they have and preserve their borders as well as to build up the region economically. I expect our spending on the military as a percentage of the GDP will begin to fall as we begin ramp up domestic development programs including one I have envisioned that takes a modern slant on Li Bing's actions from the early days of Chinese Empire. Basically.. we're going to turn the river systems throughout Asia into a sort of modern highway system via the creation of locks and channels.. and allow for making many more miles of land arable through irrigation. We had a lot of bills go through our legislature of late, but things seem to have calmed down so I will likely be putting the proposal before the legislature soon." "We've much greater concerns than the next person we're going to invade.. like.. how to feed the masses we must govern and keep content." In response to New Cymru's statements, "Fair enough, seems like a good idea." That was all he said. Edited June 10, 2009 by Maelstrom Vortex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 "I have another question for you, Chairman. With the mega-state you have formed...how do treaties carry over? Do you consider your fellow Dragon Empire States as part of this coalition, or just your own Dragonisia?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 All members are still members of treaties of any former pact they still intended to respect as part of the Dragon Empire. I upheld all my treaty and so the Empire is now a member of all alliances I was in. Most of us were in the same treaty structure to begin with which is partly what resulted in encouragement to their unification. Like ideals, like minds, working together for the same causes. However, now that we are all merged the Triumvirate and Legislature may also decide if any of these old treaties needs to be terminated or re-negotiated at any time. States also maintain limited negotiation power on their own behalves long as they do not do something the Legislature or Trium say no to. All of the Empires' states are member of this treaty by proxy, that does not mean you are required to support them, but they will support you if you need them as an extension of Dragonisia being a member of this pact. I would ask all members here to recognize the Dragon Empire as a sovereign, individual state, and show us equal support.. but if they do not wish to, we are equally satisfied if the AC only wishes the treaty to pertain to the state of Dragonisia. We do note, either way, we only recognize the Dragon Empire/The State of Dragonisia as having one vote in this treaty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefano Palmieri Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 To the esteemed members of the Australasian Coalition, We, the people of the Khmer, ask that the people of Laos be incorporated into our lands. They will be treated as well as all other subjects that reside in the boundaries of our empire. We have a shared history and culture and we wish for that to continue. -Hun Sen King of the Khmer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 I see no issue in this. I'll wait for the other delegation's statements however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 "As long as we can be assured that they will be well-treated, and it ios what they want, we have no issue with it." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevz Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 OOC: *cough* *cough* I am in the land of Laos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 OOC: *cough* *cough* I am in the land of Laos. OOC: Whoops, I really have a bad memory. And Asian Geography was never my strong suit. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevz Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 OOC: Whoops, I really have a bad memory. And Asian Geography was never my strong suit. Sorry. OOC: No problem. Now go post in my world peace thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 The Chairman adjusts his reading glasses, "Oh my. Laos is inhabited by a central government. Sorry Khmer.. we have to deny your claim based on the presence of a foreign sovereignty." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefano Palmieri Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 OOC: *cough* *cough* I am in the land of Laos. OOC: I thought you quit. Oh well Nice to have another neighbor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yawoo Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 OOC: My apologies for my late reply to your invitation. I've had some problems with my laptop and dealing with HP customers support. Long story short they messed up and I'm getting my laptop repaired, and in order to do so I had to ship it in which has caused this delay. I hope replying in this thread is okay since it is the most recent. To: The Australasian CoalitionFrom: The Republic of Yawoo Chancellor von Berg acting on behalf of the Republic of Yawoo accepts the Australasian Coalition's invitation to become an observer nation within the Coalition. A delegation will be sent shortly to take part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 "As we were the ones to invite them in the first place, we obviously have no objections to Yawoo's observer status. What of you?" Davies waited to see what the other representatives would say, fairly confident they would support him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 "No objection at all. Welcome Yawoo." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Tintagyl Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 "No objection." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silhouette Posted June 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 New Cymru shall abstain. We do not know enough of this nation to say anything for or against this proposal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 "As such, with no dissenting votes, Yawoo has an observer's seat in this alliance." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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