Viluin Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 To: idiotbang From: Viluin Date: 5/14/2009 12:24:44 AM Subject: Cruise Missile Attack Message: Your nation has been attacked with a cruise missile by Viluin. You lost 8 defending tanks, 2.30 technology, and 3.45 infrastructure. Any existing peace offers that were on the table have been automatically canceled. To: idiotbang From: Viluin Date: 5/14/2009 12:24:50 AM Subject: Cruise Missile Attack Message: Your nation has been attacked with a cruise missile by Viluin. You lost 11 defending tanks, 2.30 technology, and 11.50 infrastructure. Any existing peace offers that were on the table have been automatically canceled. What's up with the first message? Never seen that before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Shepard Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 I know that in TE, the normal CM infra damage is 5.0x infra, but a few times I've launched them and it's only done 1.0x damage instead... which is annoying, but yeah I think that occasionally you can just get saddled with a 'dud' CM. I expect the number of Satellites/Missile Defenses play into the overall odds for whether they do full damage or only partial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viluin Posted May 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 (edited) I know that in TE, the normal CM infra damage is 5.0x infra, but a few times I've launched them and it's only done 1.0x damage instead... which is annoying, but yeah I think that occasionally you can just get saddled with a 'dud' CM.I expect the number of Satellites/Missile Defenses play into the overall odds for whether they do full damage or only partial. I have checked all the other cruise missile messages that are still in my inbox/outbox and I have seen no such thing. I can't remember this ever happening.. It just seems weird to me. If it's not a bug then it must be a gimmick with 1% odds of occurring or something. I've fired a lot of cruise missiles in the past. Edited May 14, 2009 by Viluin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOONS Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Well its no bug, the guy who aimmed the cruise missiles must of been in the lue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Shepard Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 I just got hit with 2 CMs in TE today, one did 5.02 infra damage and one did 2.01... Maybe it happens more often in TE, but I've seen it now and then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 I've had this happen to be before, my CMs did the same amount of infra damage as tech damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Janova Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 I believe this is not a bug; here is how I believe CMs work: - A random number between 0 and X% (I think X is around 5, but players with low infra can work that out) is generated - This number is multiplied by the target's infra - If it is over the cap (10 + number of Satellites), it is reduced to the cap - The tech damage and battle support modifiers are applied For a 5000 infra target (if X=5%), the random range will be 0 to 250, and so 92-95% of CMs will do the maximum damage, but when you roll a low number you can still come in under the cap and do less damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enderland Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 I don't think that is correct Bob unless oink had REALLY bad luck in his war against me - he fired two CMs that had exactly the same value, except it was significantly lower than the other four he fired that day (all four were the max damage). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kokarosh Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 it happened in the past with me, its only a small chance of low number i guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oinkoink12 Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 I don't think that is correct Bob unless oink had REALLY bad luck in his war against me - he fired two CMs that had exactly the same value, except it was significantly lower than the other four he fired that day (all four were the max damage). yeah I talked to admin about this, he was on IRC when that happend. He would look into the code, but didnt find anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viluin Posted May 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 yeah I talked to admin about this, he was on IRC when that happend. He would look into the code, but didnt find anything Lol, so it's a mystery? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oinkoink12 Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Lol, so it's a mystery? The following things have been ruled out Session Ident: CNA14[08:20] <oinkoink12> Hello admin, can I ask you a small question [08:20] <CNA> go 14[08:20] <oinkoink12> how is it possible that Cruise Missiles have different infra damage ? [08:21] <CNA> the damage is randomly calculated 14[08:21] <oinkoink12> Your cruise missile attack against Nitronia was a success. Nitronia lost 24 defending tanks, 4.88 technology, and 24.42 infrastructure. 14[08:21] <oinkoink12> Your cruise missile attack against Nitronia was a success. Nitronia lost 24 defending tanks, 4.88 technology, and 24.42 infrastructure. 14[08:21] <oinkoink12> Your cruise missile attack against Ender Land was a success. Ender Land lost 24 defending tanks, 4.88 technology, and 19.54 infrastructure. 14[08:21] <oinkoink12> Your cruise missile attack against Ender Land was a success. Ender Land lost 24 defending tanks, 4.88 technology, and 19.54 infrastructure. 14[08:21] <oinkoink12> Your cruise missile attack against CSU Ram Country was a success. CSU Ram Country lost 0 defending tanks, 4.88 technology, and 24.42 infrastructure. 14[08:21] <oinkoink12> Your cruise missile attack against CSU Ram Country was a success. CSU Ram Country lost 0 defending tanks, 4.88 technology, and 24.42 infrastructure. 14[08:21] <oinkoink12> thats kinda strange isnt it? 14[08:21] <oinkoink12> those on ender land? [08:21] <CNA> the damage is randomly calculated 14[08:21] <oinkoink12> srsly 14[08:21] <oinkoink12> they always hit the same 24,42 for me 14[08:22] <oinkoink12> only not on him [08:22] <CNA> Missile Defense 14[08:22] <oinkoink12> they all have them [08:22] <CNA> tech 14[08:23] <oinkoink12> my tech stayed the same 14[08:23] <oinkoink12> its from today [08:23] <CNA> his tech 14[08:23] <oinkoink12> his tech doesnt apply in CM attacks 14[08:23] <oinkoink12> and his tech is actually 4k lower than the others [08:23] <CNA> god, you're going to make me dig into the code aren't you 14[08:23] <oinkoink12> well, i could also open a topic [08:24] <CNA> hang on 14[08:25] <oinkoink12> check, other people dont have it 14[08:25] <oinkoink12> [08:23:54] <%Pansy> Your cruise missile attack against Ender Land was a success. Ender Land lost 17 defending tanks, 3.38 technology, and 16.91 infrastructure. 14[08:25] <oinkoink12> [08:24:27] <%Pansy> Your cruise missile attack against Ochocinco was a success. Ochocinco lost 0 defending tanks, 3.38 technology, and 16.91 infrastructure. [08:27] <CNA> do you by chance have navy support on the others? 14[08:28] <oinkoink12> nope 14[08:28] <oinkoink12> dont use navy actively [08:32] <CNA> all your opponents have full missile defenses 14[08:32] <oinkoink12> yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Badger Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 I think it is just one of them random things, like aircraft battles I have had the occasional / rare CM that doesn't do full damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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