hormones74 Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 The developments of this will be interesting to watch. Maybe I'll get to participate if everyone starts throwing their hat into the ring. o/ WAPA for starting some fun o/ GDA for responding with some fun o/ whoever keeps this chain of events rolling could this be the war everyone wanted? maybe. if everyone tries to keep the sides equal, but like I have advocated, who really wants an honestly fair war. As you can see, everyone is already lining up behind the already larger alliances. People only want to get involved if it is to their advantage. I don't blame them, it is only logical. A fair war, however ideal, will ultimately be impossible to coordinate as evidenced here. Though I would be happy if I could be proven wrong. Obiwan, You spoke alot of truth right there. It is very true about people being followers. When Murder Inc. was at the top of the list, there were a number of alliances that were more than willing to follow us to where ever we might have taken them. Then some people put together this little thing called Judgement. From what I could gather, I think the leaders of Judgement wanted to see someone else at the top. So they knocked MI down. Immediately, MHA gathered alot of extra members and they were shot straight into first place. Since then they have sat there quite peacefully. I can respect that. So what I am getting at, is that the majority of TE alliances need not to be followers. Do you own thing. Stop kissing peoples rear-ends, thinking it will only promote your alliance. It wont, all its gonna do is put a bigger target on your backs than you had before. If you have treaties, then follow them. DO NOT leave your allies out in the cold to perish, because you are too afraid for your infra. Alot of treaties were signed with MI. You know how many were actually honored? Power isnt in numbers people. Power is in the integrity of your leaders and your allies. Power is in active members who regularly check your forums. Power is where you fight it. Power is not in the almighty member count. Member totals cannot be counted on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesdaLeo Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 This man has hit the nail on the head. Whatever happens this is a very admirable post. well said Obiwan, You spoke alot of truth right there. It is very true about people being followers. When Murder Inc. was at the top of the list, there were a number of alliances that were more than willing to follow us to where ever we might have taken them. Then some people put together this little thing called Judgement. From what I could gather, I think the leaders of Judgement wanted to see someone else at the top. So they knocked MI down. Immediately, MHA gathered alot of extra members and they were shot straight into first place. Since then they have sat there quite peacefully. I can respect that. So what I am getting at, is that the majority of TE alliances need not to be followers. Do you own thing. Stop kissing peoples rear-ends, thinking it will only promote your alliance. It wont, all its gonna do is put a bigger target on your backs than you had before. If you have treaties, then follow them. DO NOT leave your allies out in the cold to perish, because you are too afraid for your infra. Alot of treaties were signed with MI. You know how many were actually honored? Power isnt in numbers people. Power is in the integrity of your leaders and your allies. Power is in active members who regularly check your forums. Power is where you fight it. Power is not in the almighty member count. Member totals cannot be counted on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaisport Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 Obiwan, You spoke alot of truth right there. It is very true about people being followers. When Murder Inc. was at the top of the list, there were a number of alliances that were more than willing to follow us to where ever we might have taken them. Then some people put together this little thing called Judgement. From what I could gather, I think the leaders of Judgement wanted to see someone else at the top. So they knocked MI down. Immediately, MHA gathered alot of extra members and they were shot straight into first place. Since then they have sat there quite peacefully. I can respect that. So what I am getting at, is that the majority of TE alliances need not to be followers. Do you own thing. Stop kissing peoples rear-ends, thinking it will only promote your alliance. It wont, all its gonna do is put a bigger target on your backs than you had before. If you have treaties, then follow them. DO NOT leave your allies out in the cold to perish, because you are too afraid for your infra. Alot of treaties were signed with MI. You know how many were actually honored? Power isnt in numbers people. Power is in the integrity of your leaders and your allies. Power is in active members who regularly check your forums. Power is where you fight it. Power is not in the almighty member count. Member totals cannot be counted on. I have spoken with Hormones74 throughout the course of the game and find him to be pretty respectable. I agree with James when he says Hormones74 hit the nails on the head. I can't speak for other Judgment members but I can speak for MHA. Being number #1 alliance is consolation prize for me. My goal as leader of MHA is to protect the interest of our nations and govern from the center. Hormones74 and I may view the methodology of alliance game play differently but right away I can tell you by reading his quote that he understand the mechanics of this game. The true beauty of this game is that we are all part of a virtual community with leaders of alliances as its care takers. The respective alliances are the true nations in this game and regardless of an alliances size, it is only as effective as the amount of people that participate in her activities and the leaderships ability to govern and put the welfare of the alliance before ones own nation. MHA has taken to the side of GDA because her reasons for declaring war against WAPA is fair and just. Beating an alliance at warfare is fine but demanding surrender terms and disbandment is out right wrong. When Judgment won the war against MI, I spoke out against this practice of wanted MI to disband or wear surrender terms AAs. I now speak out against WAPA for demanding such terms against NAAW. Thaisport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth Muscarella Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 This is a Declaration of War on NAAW by WAPA. For too long we have faced the shackles of boredom. Tonight we declare our freedom from boredom and will fight to the death to kill the boredom that plagues TE.Shortstar of WAPA WOW, this is odd.WAPA hit NAAW coming to the aid of TPF. I thought GDA, UW and all were friends of TPF? Seems to me that everyone is backing out of there agrements with TPF, now TPF might just as well get there hands dirty in this little fling! GO TPF! Thanks Muskie! And yeah no surprise attacks...TPF will talk to GDA today and if things are not peaced out we will join the fight to defend WAPA!BG. something here doesnt add up. WAPA never mentioned anything about coming to the aid of TPF. when i look back on it, nothing happened with TPF. Oh wait, there was Bob attacking Burning Glory. So MuskieZZ, should you edit your post to say that WAPA came to the aid of Burning Glory, but they will never admit it because they don't actually know that is the only reason that he activated their pact? Burning Glory actually thanked you for shedding this light, so it must be true. Burning Glory, your thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreedomvilleAT Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 o/ NAAW + GDA Do good guys! I'll be watching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEraser Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 Obiwan, You spoke alot of truth right there. It is very true about people being followers. When Murder Inc. was at the top of the list, there were a number of alliances that were more than willing to follow us to where ever we might have taken them. Then some people put together this little thing called Judgement. From what I could gather, I think the leaders of Judgement wanted to see someone else at the top. So they knocked MI down. Immediately, MHA gathered alot of extra members and they were shot straight into first place. Since then they have sat there quite peacefully. I can respect that. So what I am getting at, is that the majority of TE alliances need not to be followers. Do you own thing. Stop kissing peoples rear-ends, thinking it will only promote your alliance. It wont, all its gonna do is put a bigger target on your backs than you had before. If you have treaties, then follow them. DO NOT leave your allies out in the cold to perish, because you are too afraid for your infra. Alot of treaties were signed with MI. You know how many were actually honored? Power isnt in numbers people. Power is in the integrity of your leaders and your allies. Power is in active members who regularly check your forums. Power is where you fight it. Power is not in the almighty member count. Member totals cannot be counted on. i think what my comrade is saying to you all is, grow a pair TE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreedomvilleAT Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 i think what my comrade is saying to you all is, grow a pair TE! D: Gross. I don't want that ahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornguard Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 How in the world will you all handle that 27 nation alliance??Pathetic! I have many recipes for WAPA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faircitybear Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 Wooo Hoooo this is what TE is all about. I was honestly considering not bothering at next reset. Currently fighting 3 GDA and i've anarchied 2. Fighting 1 NAAW and he is in anarchy. Me i'm NOT :lol: NAAW were a joke with no fight and GDA are little better. Bring on the bandwagoners i say and here's to the inevitable anarchy B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth Muscarella Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 Wooo Hoooo this is what TE is all about.I was honestly considering not bothering at next reset. Currently fighting 3 GDA and i've anarchied 2. Fighting 1 NAAW and he is in anarchy. Me i'm NOT :lol: NAAW were a joke with no fight and GDA are little better. Bring on the bandwagoners i say and here's to the inevitable anarchy B) lol well i've had 2 WAPA and 1 TPF guy in me since 1/23 and they havent gotten close to putting me into anarchy. Their method of trying to anarchy me is completely wrong... i'd tell them how to, but i'm afraid the rest of wapa would start to use that on people besides myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius C Nero Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 You would have at least thought with their superior numbers they could have anarchied at least one of us! NAAW got four. Im sure the sanctions they placed will help them greatly. Poor show. We will loose the war GDA, but you have lost already.Here we sit all broken hearted GDA tried to fight but only farted WAPA stood tall and took it like a man GDA failed at trying to be like FAN Well we did anarchy one last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius C Nero Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 How in the world will you all handle that 27 nation alliance??Pathetic! The same way we would handle a 300 man alliance in the same situation. If WAPA wants to play with the big boys, they're gonna get man handled. Attacking a larger alliance without thinking about the potential backlash is quite pathetic if I do say so myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Benji Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 WAPA doesn't *have* anything else to say. All they can talk about is how we have not handed their $@! to them fast enough. Drawing out the pain of battle is a lot more... entertaining. Don't worry, as long as you keep your mouths open, we shall keep inflicting damage. So you guys have nothing to worry about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius C Nero Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 WAPA doesn't *have* anything else to say. All they can talk about is how we have not handed their $@! to them fast enough.Drawing out the pain of battle is a lot more... entertaining. Don't worry, as long as you keep your mouths open, we shall keep inflicting damage. So you guys have nothing to worry about. I must agree, WAPA, Keep talking !@#$ and attacking our allies and we will keep the pain flowing freely. How much of an $@! whooping we give you, WAPA is entirely up to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanadrin Failing Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 I generally tend to keep my nose out of TE affairs, but from what I understand, the 'initial' attack by WAPA on GDA was retaliation due to a raid BY GDA ON WAPA that got peaced out and deleted prior to someone at GDA realising what was going on. By then, all GDA saw was the apparently unprovoked attack on their member nation. Has this POV been discussed at all? It seems to be absent from the debate here, and I'm not privvy to any IRC discussions regarding this situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owned-You Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 Considering were allied with GDA & TPF...AZTEC is kinda confused as to what the hell to do right now. As such, we'll be in council over the next few day's to figure out our course of action. Until then, we'd like it if you peace out and only one side of our treaties is allowed to fight so we can actually participate in these conflict's without compromising our integrity... (I'm being sarcastic towards the end of my post...and bummed because our allies are on two sides of the conflict) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDave Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 I generally tend to keep my nose out of TE affairs, but from what I understand, the 'initial' attack by WAPA on GDA was retaliation due to a raid BY GDA ON WAPA that got peaced out and deleted prior to someone at GDA realising what was going on. By then, all GDA saw was the apparently unprovoked attack on their member nation.Has this POV been discussed at all? It seems to be absent from the debate here, and I'm not privvy to any IRC discussions regarding this situation. In first with pics or it didnt happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rude Empire Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 The UN have stepped into this war by declaring support for TPF! http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=46408 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanadrin Failing Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 In first with pics or it didnt happen Unfortunately, I doubt taking screenshots of every raid error is something that would be done even in Standard Edition. For the record here, I'm not really trying to stop the war or anything, I'm just trying to get more info about the whole affair. The UN have stepped into this war by declaring support for TPF! I wasn't aware that TPF had declared on this war yet. Burning Glory has hinted that they may, but hasn't actually done so yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faircitybear Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 You've got to laugh at the mighty GDA lolololol A fighter escorted bombing run has been launched against your nation by *$%("£. In the attack you lost 0 defending tanks, 0 cruise missiles, and 0.00 infrastructure. You destroyed 4 attacking bombers. You lost 0 fighter aircraft and destroyed 1 fighter aircraft launched by $£%$^%£. Any existing peace offers that were on the table have been automatically canceled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingDingaLing Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 You've got to laugh at the mighty GDA lololololA fighter escorted bombing run has been launched against your nation by *$%("£. In the attack you lost 0 defending tanks, 0 cruise missiles, and 0.00 infrastructure. You destroyed 4 attacking bombers. You lost 0 fighter aircraft and destroyed 1 fighter aircraft launched by $£%$^%£. Any existing peace offers that were on the table have been automatically canceled. The system is based on random odds.. It has nothing to do with an alliances abilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faircitybear Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 The system is based on random odds.. It has nothing to do with an alliances abilities. Haven't you got a skirt to hide behind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingDingaLing Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 (edited) Haven't you got a skirt to hide behind? Haven't you got a rehab clinic to run into and start hitting them with clubs ? I dont want to make you late for that appointment edit change place Double edit: I wouldnt make fun of Our fighting ability as we did own you twice before on alot fairer of terms Edited January 27, 2009 by KingDingaLing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortstar Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 If anyone is seeking us to backtrack, or cry about the curbstomp that is taking place, you will recieve no such pleasure. Bring the hurt, thats what war is supposed to be about. Truly amazing that this member had to go above and beyond what it should have taken to start a war. If you are truly coming to the aid of an ally, you should have done it on the first day of the attacks. What we possess and you lack is the ability to throw down our precious infra for what we think is supposed to be happening on te, which is war. The truth is your cowardly actions took place after the terms you went to war on were changed, and you felt so insecure the only alliance you could get the balls up to attack was 1/5th your size. So keep it coming GDA. You can destroy our infra but you will not destroy what makes us WAPA. Follow with back patting and telephone tough guy comments below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Benji Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 Well if you want the hurt so bad, convince your allies in TPF so step into the damn war. Come on, Burning Glory, bring the hurt. If TPF steps in, everyone else will too, and TE will be TE once again. NOW FIGHT DAMNIT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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