Sumeragi Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 (edited) No, common sense would have me at 4.8 million, due to my stats x100 multiplier I'm talking about a RL country that stretches from the Amur to Taiwan. If such a country was around in RL, it would have more than 4.8 million people. Edited October 14, 2008 by Sumeragi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Frost Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 I'm talking about a country that stretches from the Amur to Taiwan. If such a country was around in RL, it would have more than 4.8 million people. correct, and if this was RL id have way more then 4.8 millyn, due to what I control. but this isnt rl. This is Planet Bob. and in here i have 4.8 millyn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumeragi Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 correct, and if this was RL id have way more then 4.8 millyn, due to what I control. but this isnt rl. This is Planet Bob. and in here i have 4.8 millyn. And if the majority of the players votes for the change, will you follow the changed multiplier? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Frost Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 And if the majority of the players votes for the change, will you follow the changed multiplier? naturally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranather Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 (edited) No one is forced to follow any of these guidelines set forth, if I may say so, though such people generally arent taken seriously. I'd think the citizen multiplier is pretty ambiguous anyway, as large countrys can have relatively small populations, by all accounts Russia should have the largest population, not India, if size were the sole determining factor in Population, which it isnt, but enough RL. Edited October 14, 2008 by Ranather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumeragi Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 naturally Good. Then it's time for me to start lobbying. :jihad: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeVentNoir Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 (edited) Also, common sense tells us that a RL country your size would have 48,441,000 people, not 4,844,100 people. Common sense puts me at 4.5million, not the 9 million I RP with. 1000x leaves me with 90 million. Time to invade you for stupidity. I will refuse to recognise RP with 1000x citizens. I wish for just 100x citizens and 1x soldiers, but can live with 10x. Also, no nuke modifier. I also agree on the new plane levels. Edited October 14, 2008 by LeVentNoir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanis777 Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 (edited) I say we stop debating this citizen x100 or x1000 business. Let's still this thing once and for all in a vote in a thread. Maybe we can ground out some other RP rules while we are at it too. Or we can do it here? I'll assume Lord Frost and LeVentNoir side with the x100 multiplier. I'll vote 'nay' too. Yea for x1000 multiplier: 1 Nay: 3 Edited October 14, 2008 by Quest07 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Seb Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 I am using the 1000x multiplier for citizens. However, I won't allow my total population to ever rise above 45 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynneth Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 As noted in the other thread, I'm for a compromise between both, something between 400x and 600x. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted October 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 Or we could just RP the number of citizens we have, as long as there's a reason for a number (whether it be too high or low) and it isn't too outlandish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeVentNoir Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 (edited) But then what about troop levels? I would like to Rp with about 4.5 million citizens, but 10x troops would give me 700k troops, about 1/6 of my pop? Edited October 14, 2008 by LeVentNoir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted October 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 For troops, I'm not too sure. Putting a limit like making it 1/10th of your citizens would be too restrained, but letting them go wild could make a lot of people go !@#$% insane with numbers. Just apply the rule to everything - RP what you have, but have limits. If we see something we don't like, we'll tell you about it and eventually come to a compromise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeVentNoir Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 The problem is, either I am going to have a stupidly large popdensity, stupidly large military or be nerfed. Time for some more land to house all the new people i am going to have to come up with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted October 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 You'd have a low population and a smaller military, but you'd have a large tech bonus over almost everyone and if anyone that were strong enough to beat you attacked you, they'd win regardless of RPing style out of war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted October 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 Alright, I'm going to be putting up something about godmodding and cutting out pointless things. What I want to know is your definition of Godmodding - just post it and I'll find everything that's alike in each post and put them in as what Godmodding would be "generally" defined as. Why won't I put my own thing in there? Why can't I just do it? Because this is a thread for you guys to be able to base your own rules for RPing on, and our views might differ. This is what younger players might look to for guidance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 For one thing, no matter how well-RP'd, someone with below 100 tech claiming to have utterly defeated someone with over 100 times their level of tech. Another, posting a long, involved post directly affecting another RP'er without giving them a chance to reply to it in some way. And obviously, posting you have superweapons when you have less than 100 tech is Godmodding, as well as directly attempting to control other players' nations or claiming control over something that humanity has no control over whatsoever (like the weather, meteor strikes, or natural disasters). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Seb Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 I don't know if it'd be called god-modding, but when a larger nation attacks a smaller one, it shouldn't have to be like a steam-roll. Look at Vietnam for America or Afghanistan for the Soviets. I'm not saying the smaller nation would win, but I'm saying they should at least be able to have the fun of putting up a good fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 I don't know if it'd be called god-modding, but when a larger nation attacks a smaller one, it shouldn't have to be like a steam-roll. Look at Vietnam for America or Afghanistan for the Soviets.I'm not saying the smaller nation would win, but I'm saying they should at least be able to have the fun of putting up a good fight. This is also true. It does seem a good idea, as long as the smaller nation RP's realistically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumeragi Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 I say we change the wording of this particular part of the Guidelines *Your in-game (your actual CyberNations nation) citizen count will be multiplied by one hundred (100), and the subsequent number will be your CNRP (CyberNations Roleplaying) citizen count. It seems to be saying that one MUST use the 1000 multiplier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeVentNoir Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 I think you mean the 100x multiplier. And the guidelines are only guidelines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 To be totally honest, I really don't know what all these multipliers are for. But, I'll agree with w/e LeVentNoir chooses (or Kaiser, whoever is first) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumeragi Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 I think you mean the 100x multiplier. And the guidelines are only guidelines. Thanks for the correction. As long as I stop hearing "You can't use 1000x multiplier!!!!!!!", I'll stay quiet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silhouette Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 Really, I don't mind how many citizens people RP, as it really is, as other people have mentioned, abstract. As long as you can justify your population I don't see the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeVentNoir Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 I prefer some link to the IG pop, around 250x is sort of ideal I feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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