Blackatron Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 23 hours ago, President Hardin said: Lol umbrella only cares about that tech, Probably the truest statement in any of these threads to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericsw Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Morphine said: I respect Monsters University more than Animalz. I respect the pimple on my ass more than animalz they should of been more specific and called themselves the worms Edited December 5, 2016 by ericsw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted December 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 (edited) The Imperium joined Doom Kingdom's side after the July Revolution so the idea that Animalz did something wrong here is nonsense. ISX extends to Animalz the same opportunity we accepted last year. "Pay it forward" is a phrase that applies here. There's nothing wrong with either admitting defeat or working with a larger power; obviously ericsw still has his panties in a twist because of Jack Layton's teasing. Edited December 5, 2016 by Immortan Junka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericsw Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 2 minutes ago, Immortan Junka said: The Imperium joined Doom Kingdom's side after the July Revolution so the idea that Animalz did something wrong here is nonsense. ISX extends to Animalz the same opportunity we accepted last year. "Pay it forward" is a phrase that applies here. There's nothing wrong with either admitting defeat or working with a larger power; obviously ericsw still has his panties in a twist because of Jack Layton's teasing. You tamed those bad boy animalz... well done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted December 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 4 minutes ago, ericsw said: You tamed those bad boy animalz... well done Not at all, we simply offered an alternative plan for long term development of the means of production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericsw Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Immortan Junka said: Not at all, we simply offered an alternative plan for long term development of the means of production. Communism? or as you like to say producerism .. you dont know what libertarianism is and you definitely shouldn't be leading it Animalz are asking Marx about Capitalism Edited December 5, 2016 by ericsw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razgriz24 Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 3 minutes ago, ericsw said: Communism? or as you like to say producerism .. you dont know what libertarianism is and you definitely shouldn't be leading it Animalz are asking Marx about Capitalism I for one support a system of Domesticated Feline Freedomerism, where cool cats can be cool cats and read economic books for fun. Yes, for fun; real economic books are a blast and Hayek blows the pants off of controlled/command economics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted December 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 (edited) Capitalism and communism only exist in this world in the form of national governments, with each granting different benefits. Producerism is an alliance-level ideology that applies the Francoist tradition of material analysis within the context of the Imperium's historical development. It also addresses tech production and modern warfare from a mass-oriented perspective. Edited December 5, 2016 by Immortan Junka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericsw Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 5 minutes ago, Razgriz24 said: I for one support a system of Domesticated Feline Freedomerism, where cool cats can be cool cats and read economic books for fun. Yes, for fun; real economic books are a blast and Hayek blows the pants off of controlled/command economics. Animalz are like that puppy being abused so much we need to put it down.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canik Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 7 minutes ago, ericsw said: Communism? or as you like to say producerism .. you dont know what libertarianism is and you definitely shouldn't be leading it Animalz are asking Marx about Capitalism Libertarianism isn't the exact same thing as Capitalism. You know this right? I mean, there is literally an alliance called Libertarian Socialist Federation. xD Libertarianism's fundamental philosophy as I recall it is localized autonomy. Junka does understand that extremely well and definitely holds some Libertarian values. He doesn't apply it within his own alliance, perhaps, but to the world stage he definitely does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericsw Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 4 minutes ago, Canik said: Libertarianism isn't the exact same thing as Capitalism. You know this right? I mean, there is literally an alliance called Libertarian Socialist Federation. xD Libertarianism's fundamental philosophy as I recall it is localized autonomy. Junka does understand that extremely well and definitely holds some Libertarian values. He doesn't apply it within his own alliance, perhaps, but to the world stage he definitely does. I understand that, which is why I'm not happy for him to represent the Libertarian party for the sole reason he wants more power Animalz should be ashamed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razgriz24 Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Libertarianism can be fostered by capitalism but yes, they are not the same. Libertarianism is an umbrella term as well but its definition in contemporary context was well established by several large congresses and meetings in the 1970s. I am trying to keep in character so I wont go into much more detail so we don't make this into a 10 page rl philosophy debate. The short story is that the socialist libertarians and their slogans/ideologies were called out and they left the actual libertarian movement and rebranded themselves other things like unions and 'workers for the workers families and their working pets party' and whatnot. Cats are clearly the model libertarian society and we would like to see all the cool cats present with liberty torches in hand, let us proceed towards the intersection of control and economics and make a soft right towards classical liberalism and economic conservatism (and legalize catnip). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted December 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 It should be remembered that this was a completely defensive war for the Imperium; your buddy Hardin started the conflict in the first place attacking Varangian Guard, and then Methrage bandwaggoned and hit ISX. If the military situation were reversed, Hardin would not have been so kind to us. In fact, he tried to screw over Varangian Guard during early negotiations, when it appeared things were in his favor. Leading LPCN wasn't even my idea, it was offered to me because the constituents thought I could do a good job on their behalf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericsw Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 1 minute ago, Immortan Junka said: It should be remembered that this was a completely defensive war for the Imperium; your buddy Hardin started the conflict in the first place attacking Varangian Guard, and then Methrage bandwaggoned and hit ISX. If the military situation were reversed, Hardin would not have been so kind to us. In fact, he tried to screw over Varangian Guard during early negotiations, when it appeared things were in his favor. Leading LPCN wasn't even my idea, it was offered to me because the constituents thought I could do a good job on their behalf. You are a fraud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razgriz24 Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Hardin is no ones buddy here, I find it hard to believe he is even his own buddy from his actions. We both fought and disabled Hardin, he ran away with a trail of urine behind him as I recall the event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericsw Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 I want to make this clear, LPCN died with Sephiroth leaving this world. No one, especially not Junka has the right to lead LPCN in his absence. Be original for a change.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted December 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 4 minutes ago, ericsw said: I want to make this clear, LPCN died with Sephiroth leaving this world. No one, especially not Junka has the right to lead LPCN in his absence. Be original for a change.. This is a legally invalid argument, being that Sigrun was part of the LPCN leadership structure from the beginning, and commanded LPCN in Methrage's absence, and continues to serve as Triumvir today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericsw Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Just now, Immortan Junka said: This is a legally invalid argument, being that Sigrun was part of the LPCN leadership structure from the beginning, and commanded LPCN in Methrage's absence, and continues to serve as Triumvir today. You have taken over a movement that was nothing to do with your beliefs and nothing to do with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted December 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 3 minutes ago, ericsw said: You have taken over a movement that was nothing to do with your beliefs and nothing to do with you. Methrage and I both started in the Fifth Column Confederation in 2007 so if anyone knows Methrage today, it would be me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericsw Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Just now, Immortan Junka said: Methrage and I both started in the Fifth Column Confederation in 2007 so if anyone knows Methrage today, it would be me. Then let him say so on here. You cannot take his work and pass it off as your own, it isn't right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted December 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 (edited) What wasn't right was attacking Tk0Rahl and two of my other members rebuilding from the Plutocratic War; being that I am popularly supported within the LPCN and we all desire to make brown great again, I think we will be fine. Only reason why I'm replying to you at all is because I am on duty in the Imperial techno-factories and I have free time due to the machines functioning perfectly. Yes, even Emperors have a job, but I think I have had enough of sparring with you for the moment. Edited December 5, 2016 by Immortan Junka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razgriz24 Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 As I recall in one of our fun-inspired 3 way debates with methrage, you said you'd make a terrible libertarian and then methrage and you joked about how you'd always take the opposite stance in political debates about liberty. I respected you for who you are, not for masquerading as a libertarian. Be you man, be you... and nothing else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericsw Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 1 minute ago, Immortan Junka said: What wasn't right was attacking Tk0Rahl and two of my other members rebuilding from the Plutocratic War; being that I am popular supported within the LPCN and we all desire to make brown great again, I think we will be fine. Only reason why I'm replying to you at all is because I am on duty in the Imperial techno-factories and I have free time due to the machines functioning perfectly. Yes, even Emperors have a job, but I think I have had enough of sparring with you for the moment. You were never popularly supported with the LPCN. You have no legitimacy in this role Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted December 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 3 minutes ago, ericsw said: You were never popularly supported with the LPCN. You have no legitimacy in this role We don't need the endorsement of someone who abandoned Animalz on the battlefield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericsw Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 Just now, Immortan Junka said: We don't need the endorsement of someone who abandoned Animalz on the battlefield. I thought you knew Sephiroth? Remember it's not my endorsement you seek, it's the founder. The legitimate one. you are a fraud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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