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Another addition to the pack of criminals.
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Oh heavens no! D:
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[quote name='HeroofTime55' timestamp='1300930709' post='2674228']
I feel confident this year. Hoping to take the title.
I won't forget the year Bilrow stole the title from me on a mere technicality, the !@#$%^&.
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I'm willing to put money on you taking home the title
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Conglaturations guys. Hope this works out for you.
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[quote name='Rebel Virginia' timestamp='1300927112' post='2674149']
[color="#0000FF"]I'd write a ten page rebuttal to this, but anyone in Dumbhouse isn't worth my time. I'll be back in an hour to tell you this again. But I have better things to do that talk to you.[/color]
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That's much more like it. Keep it up. -
[quote name='Rebel Virginia' timestamp='1300926681' post='2674142']
[color="#0000FF"]Thank you. I have been waiting for this.
This is my time to shine![/color]
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The thing is, you're actually one of the better posters round here. You'll have to step up your game. -
[quote name='Charles the Great' timestamp='1300925857' post='2674133']
meh idea, lame location(I couldnt be bothered to sign up to a forum I where I would never post and consider probably one of the most biased things I have ever heard of).
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Where would you have the location then? If you can't be bothered to sign up and make it more objective then you're in no position to whinge about it being biased. -
Oh look, it's a Maelstrom thread. Someone in the BR should really get you a muzzle, you talk far too much.
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Best of luck to you BEazy.
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[quote name='Kilkenny' timestamp='1300580042' post='2670542']
Where is your proof that they were going to hit you?? Are you saying that you have proof that NPO was going to Pre-empt you?? All I said was that if NPO was staying out cause you were, then if you stay out NPO does.
And what is the benefit of coming out?? Letting you devistate their upper teirs?? or maybe they should stay where they are and continue to let you funnel money into GOONs and your own lower teirs...hmm that acctually sounds like a plan that causes you problems. Seems to me that you have more to gain by NPO coming out and getting things over with than they do.
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Where is your proof they weren't going to hit us? I feel I have good enough reasons to believe they were going to hit us, whether or not you agree with me is irrelevant, I am unlikely to ever convince you and you certainly aren't going to convince me. I'm not saying they were going to pre-empt us, I am saying they would've likely jumped on us had we been already tied up with some other alliance from the Polar Coalition.
The benefit of coming out for them is releasing themselves from the economic stranglehold of peacemode, which I am sure is substantially more detrimental to their nations well being than us sending out 18mil every 10 days. Trust me, we can afford it and we can afford to do it for a very long time as we don't feel the need to stay in peace mode for any large amount of time.
[OOC] I'm off to sleep, adieu[/OOC] -
[quote name='Kilkenny' timestamp='1300578447' post='2670509']
So, what you are saying is that because NPO won't play the way you want to, you won't give them peace?? I mean after you went to the trouble to attack them out of the blue they have the nerve to fight the way they want to fight and not the way you want?? How ungrateful of NPO!!
Ya know, there is all this talk of "knowing" that NPO would enter the war if you did....so doesn't that mean that if you had stayed out of the war NPO would have?? oh wait, you don't know that, cause you didn't give them a chance.
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It's more beneficial for them in the long term to get this over with as soon as possible. The longer they sit and stagnate, the more money they waste and the stronger we become.
And why would we give them a chance to hit us? Are you seriously implying that despite knowing that they were going to enter the war against us, we should've just let them hit us first as it's only fair? -
[quote name='avenger218' timestamp='1300577526' post='2670490']
IRON didn't post a DoN, are you guys going to get all paranoid and attack them?
Remember IRON was the second biggest alliance in The Continuum.
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Certainly, you better watch your backs IRON, we're coming for you!
Jesus wept
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[quote name='avenger218' timestamp='1300577389' post='2670485']
you attacked an alliance that wasn't even in the war!
This proves that any alliance that is unfortunate enough to have you guys view them as a threat is gonna get rolled. [b]Atleast NPO had reasons when they attacked alliances.[/b]
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Haha! That's a good one, tell us another. -
[quote name='avenger218' timestamp='1300576810' post='2670474']
what a load of crap, your rolling 1 now.
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Currently I am fighting nations from TOOL and NADC. Both of these alliances are at war with Doomhouse, do try to keep up. -
[quote name='Vol Navy' timestamp='1300576364' post='2670466']
So you are basically saying GPA, WTF and others aren't participating either because they aren't using the war option?
You gonna roll them next for that?
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[b]No, that isn't what he is saying at all. Just because you and yours felt it was completely acceptable to roll Neutral alliances does not mean everyone else does. Do you understand? Can you stop with these terrible slippery slope arguments and stop putting words in our mouths and argue your case based on logic/reason/fact for just once in your miserable existence.[/b] -
[quote name='avenger218' timestamp='1300575397' post='2670450']
Oh we've read it, you guys just keep chiming the same worn out line of bull !@#$ every time. "We attacked NPO because we thought at some point in the war they MIGHT ATTACK US" if any of US said something like that about one of your allies you'd call us crazy and give us a place in Toad's Kitchen.
Listen mister, Attacking NPO because they attacked VE or one of VE's allies is a valid CB (Only after the fact mind you). Attacking NPO because you THOUGHT they MIGHT at some point in the war, attack VE or one of VE's allies isn't a valid CB. it is an unprovoked and unjustified attack no matter how your spin doctors size it up. what you guys did was an ILLEGAL ATTACK!
in short let them attack first THAN you can COUNTER ATTACK. do you understand. that's how war works.
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An ILLEGAL ATTACK you say!? My god HOW could we have been so FOOLISH!
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[quote name='HHAYD' timestamp='1300574235' post='2670435']
Alright, so what's your alliance's CB against NPO and what evidences does your alliance and their allies have other than the treaty web? They don't have to be shown, just at least mention where you got the evidences.
No fluff please btw.
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We have very good reasons to believe NPO were going to enter on Polar's side, if you paid any attention to how the war unfolded from the very beginning you would notice how slow it escalated, unlike other wars in which escalation is usually quite rapid, this war was being delayed almost as if on purpose. There are also some logs floating around of people involved with the Polar Coalition (pezstar and lintwad I believe. Also at the time NSO were not actually combatants in the war) talking about keeping NPO out of the conflict until their coalition was strong enough. For a lot of people the idea of fighting alongside NPO still isn't a very attractive prospect and that proved to be an obstacle for the Polar coalition with regards to rallying people to their side. Hence the need to delay the escalation of the war for the grand entry of NPO.
(No those aren't my only reasons, I just don't feel like going into great detail and producing a wall of text for people to read selectively. That and I feel very ill so apologies if I'm a bit incoherent)
Now, there is something which I want to know from you: Where is your evidence that NPO were in fact [b]not[/b] planning on entering the war? -
[quote name='HHAYD' timestamp='1300558326' post='2670306']
You attacked NPO for two reasons:
1. Hatred
2. Paranoia (DoW NPO before they can jump into the meatgrinder)
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Wrong. Try reading some of the vast amounts of literature we've been cranking out explaining why we attacked NPO. Of course I don't expect you to actually do that, instead I expect you to claim that you read it and all you got out of it was "HATRED AND PARANOIA"
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Your alliance and their allies failed to produce strong evidences that NPO planned on joining the war. The treaty web is a flimsy evidence, more of a fluff than a backbone. You went ahead and attacked NPO, not even bothering diplomatic discussions.
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Doesn't telling the alliance our plans of a pre-emptive strike on them defeat the purpose of the pre-emptive strike entirely?
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Interesting, going into peace mode is a CB. GOON has 49 members in PM, FAN has 64 members in PM, MK has 83 members in PM, Umbrella has 4 members in PM, so why not DoW on them and your own alliance, or are you a hypocrite?
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Ah, my bad, I meant P-ZI, not E-ZI. Anyways, a long-term war is essentially a P-ZI. You are punishing all of NPO for crimes that it had already paid for back during Karma, and you aren't willing to back down until NPO surrenders. But NPO and its allies don't want to surrender for very good reasons, they will not tolerate injustice and [b]they have no trust in your words[/b]. Your alliance and their allies have already indicated that they are still upset that NPO didn't pay fully for their pre-Karma crimes, despite having agreed to peace with NPO.
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I can understand why NPO won't trust our word, it'd be pretty dense of them to trust us without first questioning our motives behind such an offer. Then again, it's also pretty dense to think they'll get out of this war the same way they got out of Karma; by hiding all of their upper tier in peace mode and hoping the combatants will give up. If we were to let them surrender while they kept the bulk of their strength in peace mode it would set a bad precedent for the future, imagine if the outcome of a war was decided on how quickly you can hit peace mode. How boring that would be.
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For those who don't understand how a court system can be applied to politics; suppose a member of MK was accused by another member of plotting to sell MK's classified information, passwords and other stuff on eBay or Craigslist that would allow a non-member of MK to easily gain control of the website. The accuser [b]does not have any hard evidences[/b] to backup his or her claim.
Do you?...
1: Ignore the accuser.
2: Take the accuser seriously and demand the accused to prove him/herself that he/she did not plan on sabotaging MK.
3: Attack and demand the accused to admit guilt or face an endless triple-teaming, essentially a P-ZI.
Now a slight rewording (indicated in red bold)...
Suppose [color="#FF0000"][b]NPO was accused by various DH's alliances and their friends of plotting to join NpO's side.[/b][/color] The accuser[b][color="#FF0000"]s[/color][/b] [b][color="#FF0000"]do[/color] not have any hard evidences[/b] to backup his or her claim.
Do you?...
1: Ignore the accuser[color="#FF0000"][b]s[/b][/color].
2: Take the accuser[color="#FF0000"][b]s[/b][/color] seriously and demand the accused to prove [color="#FF0000"][b]itself that it had no plans of joining NpO's side.[/b][/color]
3: Attack and demand the accused to admit guilt or face an endless [b][color="#FF0000"]warfare[/color][/b], essentially a P-ZI.
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Those three options can't all be applied to one single party. Option 1 can only be taken by NPO and options 2 and 3 can only be taken by Doomhouse. Option 2 is impractical because if we were to goto NPO prior to declaring and straight up ask "ARE YOU GOING TO JOIN THE WAR WITH POLAR?" it would not only lack any kind of tact but it also lacks basic military intelligence. Why on earth would they tell us the truth? It's not like relations between us and NPO were great before we declared, you'll remember that NPO and MK ceased diplomatic relations via embassy prior to the war. To expect the NPO to provide hard evidence in favour of our claim that they were going to join the war on the Polar front would be downright foolish.
And that of course leaves us with Option 3. Except we're not demanding anyone admit any guilt, we're actually just requesting that NPO comes out of peace mode so we can smash each other properly for one month and leave it at that. I've seen their warchests and they can easily rebuild after a month of warfare, however those warchests will shrink if they choose to remain in peace mode and the chances to rebuild to optimum capacity will get lower and lower for everyday their nations spend in peace mode. (That isn't a threat by the way, that's just how peace mode will make their defeat much more decisive) -
You need to chill bro. You're far too hot-headed.
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[quote name='Varianz' timestamp='1300354448' post='2667540']
And now we've reached the point of assumptions, and I'm done.
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I don't understand why you have been trying to argue a point in favour of us receiving reparations from you. You would prefer it if we demanded reparations?
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[quote name='Haflinger' timestamp='1300194136' post='2665534']
Hmmm, 34 slots of aid for a protectorate with 3 rep-paying nations. That's a bit ... steep.
Ah well. The timetable isn't bad, although it can be used to force TLR to send GOONS war aid.
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Took you long enough to complain about the reps. Both parties seem pretty content with it, so let's leave it at that. -
[quote name='Aeros' timestamp='1300120323' post='2664622']
Chyrellos does not wish for, nor requires reimbursements, as these reimbursements will not address the environmental and economic havoc caused by excessive use of nuclear weapons over the long term. Only a rethinking of strategic policy would do this.
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I'm sure the economic reimbursements you will recieve will help your economy recover. However I'm afraid that a change of strategic policy is out of the question as it is not strategic for us at this time to change our current policy, so surely you can see our dilemma.
[quote name='xoindotnler' timestamp='1300121106' post='2664640']
You should have build your nation better, its all your fault now stop complaining and take it like a man - DH logic
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But I'm part of Doomhouse and I didn't say that, it's as if we're not one big hivemind and in fact you are trying to put words in our mouths. Crazy huh? -
[quote name='Geoffron X' timestamp='1300120698' post='2664632']
FAN doesn't have a gun to our head, FAN is shooting a gun at our head.
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There. I've edited my post, perhaps now one of you can answer the questions instead of trying to avoid them. -
[quote name='Kilkenny' timestamp='1300068883' post='2663914']
The problem with that is this. The people who dislike them will accept nothing that NPO does as change. Everything they do is either a PR ploy, too little too late, isn't enough or is too much. At this point why should they even try??? I mean what could they do that would be accepted by you and those that hate them??
Seriously, they can't win either way.
Edit: And yet they do try, and even posted this knowing the reaction. Props to them, cause it would drive me batty.
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I don't think the NPO has ever been accused of trying to do too much to change. I cannot think of an example of what they have done to convince us they've changed, except for this two year late apology. I don't believe this apology is sincere, I also don't believe this is them trying to show us they've changed. Why? Because of the timing of it. Why didn't they apologise two years ago when it would have actually mattered more to FAN? Why do they choose to apologise now when FAN are shooting at their heads? -
The nation of Anubia hereby apologises for ruining your environment with our selfish abuse of nuclear technology. The New Pacific Order will reimburse you for any economic damage you may have suffered.
Nuclear weapons hurting the Third World
in World Affairs (IC)
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[quote name='Aeros' timestamp='1301020867' post='2675487']
Unlike you, I was not blessed with awesome sauce Uranium, which pretty much guarantees people will beg you to trade with them. Furs and Lead are not exactly money makers, considering one is used in industry set ups, and the other in population set ups. I've spent an entire month getting a trade circle going, and every day of it was spent canvassing for potential trading partners. incidentally, this was the time period indicated in your high speed chart
Don't preach to me on how to build my country.
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Furs and Lead is probably the worst combination of resources and I thought Coal and Furs was bad.
Sucks to be you I guess.