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[quote name='Jrenster' timestamp='1297394661' post='2628792']
I don't really like getting into a discussion about the mechanics of nation-building because I'm not highly educated on such matters; but I will say that there are a lot more logistics concerned with building a competitive alliance from next to no technology. It's not an easy of an objective as you imply. Comparing NPO to top-heavy alliances dedicated to nation-building with active leaders(such as MK, Umbrella and TOP) is not exactly a 1:1 equivalence.
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I'm not highly educated on it either, but I know that you could've easily increased your tech levels much more than you actually did had you made more of an effort. It's laziness and it's not a good excuse for why your nations are in such poor states. -
[quote name='Jrenster' timestamp='1297394236' post='2628782']
I know you probably saw this coming but I will mention that one of those years was a year under terms.
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I refer you to my earlier post.
[quote]You have been out of terms for about a year now. It took me four months to increase my tech level from 3k~ to 5k~ there is no reason why you couldn't have done the same. You have a variety of nations on your AA suitable for tech dealing, so don't tell me you couldn't find any sellers [/quote]
What is your excuse for your inability to purchase tech? -
[quote name='Charles Stuart' timestamp='1297394054' post='2628776']
Where are these valid points?
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Hint: Not in your posts. -
CSN requested reps?
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[quote name='Feuersturm' timestamp='1297391703' post='2628701']
I have an idea. Give us our 400,000 tech back so we can fight effectively. As it stands a lot of us were still below pre-KARMA strength when you cowards jumped us. And yet you blame us for running into PM. On the behalf of all those in peace, I do apologize for not fighting in a manner convenient to you.
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You have been out of terms for about a year now. It took me four months to increase my tech level from 3k~ to 5k~ there is no reason why you couldn't have done the same. You have a variety of nations on your AA suitable for tech dealing, so don't tell me you couldn't find any sellers -
[quote name='Oppe' timestamp='1297390503' post='2628662']
I am not sure what to think. Did I misunderstand or did you just admit that your lower tier nations need aid to just keep fighting us? WOW that is an amazing complement thank you guys so much. Especially from those that like war so much.
Sounds like a good strategy to me especially long term [img]http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-downs.gif[/img]
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We'll see how that works out for you as your lower tiers run out of money and you can't help them. -
[quote name='D34th' timestamp='1297389139' post='2628621']
Don't worry, when I think that I have nothing to say I'll shut up. Now if you are upset because I was pointing how stupid the member of your alliance was for creating a useless thread like this one, isn't my fault. The fact that even the leader of your alliance agreed that this topic isn't necessary just shows how I'm right and how you are just whining.
Yeah NPO is outnumbered in top tier, are you just playing dumb whit this question?
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Your initial posts are just as unnecessary and useless (if not more so) than the OP. I agree, I'm tired of seeing these thread as well but at least I tried to add some content to my post.
You're the one playing dumb(inb4: "oh good one, another NO U response lol") you know damn well that NPO + Allies are not outnumbered in the mid/top tiers. So far you haven't made a single coherent argument for your case beyond pithy one liners, so thanks for proving my point but I'm done with this.
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[quote name='D34th' timestamp='1297388325' post='2628596']
You really think that I'm going to discuss with a guy who is angry because NPO is in peace mode and then decides to mock them because of that? Nobody is obliged to play under your rules, the fact that your side doesn't like their strategy just shows how it is effective. Tell your member to come back with a reasonable thread and I'll be glad in contribute to the discussion.
If you are so good in remember what NPO used to do in the past I'm sure you'll remember that they used to mock alliances who stood in peace mode when heavily outnumbered. So you have to decide: or you approve what they used to do in the past or you don't and stop to support your members who make the same thing now.
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If you haven't got anything good to say, don't say anything. If you really dislike these threads so much then just ignore them instead of !@#$ting them up with contentless posts.
Yeah I remember how NPO goaded a group of heavily outnumbered people out of peace mode, but NPO aren't outnumbered right now are they? -
LSF are making you watch Dune?
Harsh. -
[quote name='Sulmar' timestamp='1297387106' post='2628572']
I believe in free will.
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It is your destiny. -
[quote name='D34th' timestamp='1297370227' post='2628241']
OMG a thread mocking NPO for using peace mode, how original!
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I have a question for you; when was the last time you made a post that actually contributed to the discussion at hand? All I've been seeing recently is a collection of terrible one-liners directed at just about anyone who disagrees with you.
This peace mode crap is a classic NPO tactic. Instead of doing any fighting themselves they will send their meatshields in to do the work for them(which is why they got so mad at the idea of Duckroll being neutral) Look at how many alliances NPO have managed to rope into helping their side, they have more than enough of a numerical advantage to actually come out of peace mode and face the music. The reason they don't isn't just because they fully acknowledge how terrible they are at fighting wars but its also because they don't like to get their hands too dirty and would rather get other people to do their bidding. This is how they work and this is how they will always work.
And they say they've changed. -
[quote name='Henry' timestamp='1297356218' post='2628032']
Someone has to be evil. I just think we are better at it. Being the good guys is horribly boring and too moralistic for my tastes at this point. Plus you have to make outlandish statements about how you respect someone when you really don't. The fact that some of the opposition's gov is still desperately clawing up to the top of the moral highground indicates to me that you haven't become as evil as we are. I simply outlined the two steps you need to take if you want to continue to up that path.
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We do not require the advice of Pacificans, we will make and are perfectly capable of making our own path.
Thanks for the advice though! -
That...mankini...eurggh, I need some bleach for my eyes so I will be dropping by at the nearest Pacifican supermarket to pick some up.
Despite this Pondoland is probably the best NPO poster, you should all take a leaf from his book. -
[quote name='Henry' timestamp='1297323904' post='2627817']
I hope you try. I just want to see how your side tries to spin it into a positive PR victory. Perhaps another long winded Archon declaration about how Pacifica will forever be a threat to freedom loving nations everywhere?
Congratulations, you are almost as evil as we are. There are only two remaining steps. Follow through with your threats of permawar and then stop caring about what people think of you. Then your journey to the dark side will be complete.
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We're as evil as you? I thought you'd changed and were the good guys now
Back on topic however:
I have never liked NPO since the time I first dealt with them dating back to when I seized control of the Anubian state. They told me to get my first alliance off "their sphere" which isn't a great start to say the least. After this encounter I started paying more attention to what was happening globally, I never spoke up or sided with any particular alliance instead I sat, watched and learned how the world worked and how the top dog went about its business. Everything I saw from them and their membership put me right off them. The mindless loyalty; the unjustified sense of superiority; the terrible propaganda; the inability to admit when they're wrong. All of these delightful traits and when the !@#$ hits the fan for them, do they attempt to justify their arrogance and their egos? No, they do as they did in Karma; They hide.
I cannot abide alliances like this.
Polar on the other hand I don't care either way for. -
[quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1297016884' post='2622365']
Actually I like Valhalla, but I honestly don't see why you would flaunt your refusal to honor treaties while a war is still on, it's not really an admirable trait.
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You would ask Valhalla to burn for NPO?
Righto. -
[quote name='Rebounder' timestamp='1297016107' post='2622343']
At this point, I'm just going to hold people responsible for actually reading a topic before they put in their worthless $.02.
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I read the topic. Everything you said was bland, uninspiring, run of the mill, pre-school revolutionary bollocks. There's also the fact you tried to start your own little revolution a month or so ago and we all saw how well that went, so I knew what to expect as soon as I opened the thread. You don't have a clue what you're doing, if you did you would pick a target which actually made sense, not Duckroll; The uninvolved group of alliances tied by an optional military co-op treaty thing.
Surely you don't actually think that you'll achieve anything? -
Still trying to start your own revolution I see.
Very cute :3 -
[quote name='D34th' timestamp='1297013515' post='2622260']
Yeah very different situation...
NEW attacks DF without any [b]RATIONAL[/b] reason.
DF's allies attack NEW in defense.
PC and iFOK claims it is an agressive move and don't activate their [b]oA[/b] treaty clause with NEW
You:
[b]Now: [/b]
DH attacks NPO without any [b]RATIONAL[/b] reason.
NPO's allies attack GOONS in defense of NPO
=LOST= active oA treaty clause with GOONS and attacks Legion
You:
And you guys still be mad when I call you hypocrites, I really can't understand.
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Yet a substantial amount of people from your side felt it was completely acceptable for PC and iFOK to go in on their oA clauses (in fact you berated them for not going in for NEW) for a war with no CB.
Glass houses etc. -
[quote name='memoryproblems' timestamp='1296886665' post='2620112']
You'd think that with the fact that NPO has almost nobody in Umbrella's range, that they wouldn't need to send their puppets to do things for them.
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Ironic that you would accuse us of puppetry while the alliance you defend cowers in Peace Mode and you do its dirty work. -
[quote name='Sulmar' timestamp='1296793638' post='2618852']
So Duckroll I hear that you all are one military unit. Apparently only when you want it to be though.
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Yeah, I can't see why they wouldn't want to fight for you. I mean who wouldn't want to burn for an alliance they have no love for?
pssh cowards. -
[quote name='joracy' timestamp='1296787417' post='2618549']
Now guys, lets be fair. HHAYD's last piece of propaganda is significantly better than his earlier work. The text is readable, and the idea is coherent and understandable. It may not be entirely true, or extremely effective, but I have to say it's a giant improvement.
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I agree, he at least managed to communicate his message this time. -
[quote name='WorldConqueror' timestamp='1296790941' post='2618719']
Heh, not really. The only reason I'd want Valhalla to enter is to see them burn. I just felt his snarky little comment about leaving allies to burn should be addressed, since he has allies engaged on various fronts and yet is sitting pretty on the sidelines.
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Right so, you'd want Valhalla to enter on your side, to see them burn?
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[quote name='Rebel Virginia' timestamp='1296790641' post='2618702']
[color="#0000FF"]Nice knowing you ML. I wouldn't count on Duckroll helping you. It's quite clear that TOP wants them in line with MK.[/color]
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Or maybe they don't appreciate your coalitions attempts to try and drag them into the war.
Just a thought. -
[quote name='WorldConqueror' timestamp='1296790414' post='2618686']
So now that ML is in the war will Valhalla continue to hide while ML burns. (yay Duckroll?)
Not that that would be a dick move or anything.
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And here comes the pre-emptive treaty guilting bang on time!
Pacifica: Really? come out and play
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[quote name='Charles Stuart' timestamp='1297395038' post='2628799']
Ahh, when you run out of something classy to say, just resort to the classic "NO U". It never fails.
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Ahh, when you run out of excuses to give, just dismiss the poster and declare all of his points are invalid just because you said so. It never fails.