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  1. [quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1306124591' post='2716896']
    Even if poorly, we did more than you. And when we were done, we left things to you, and you quickly moved to replace what was destroyed--unimaginative juveniles unable to create something new, only wild-eyed at the prospects of playing NPO dressup. We were not architects of the world to come, only the dynamite that cleared the way. If you have managed the parcel poorly, we bought the right to complain with 9 months of work, blood, and sweat. We took our revolution to its ends, and we are its curators now.

    And, really, JA, show me the "backslapping orgy." There are what, 5 replies from actual Vox members in this thread. If you don't like our annual Vox Legion barbeques, then do [i]something about it[/i].

    The bottom line is that anyone that thinks Vox was about ego or that these threads are about ego never understood us and likely never will, and that's alright, but don't turn your ignorance into baseless insults. It was silly for Vladimir to write a 4-page analysis of Vox 48 hours after it was created and get everything wrong, and it's silly to get things just as wrong with the benefit of our reality behind us.
    [/quote]

    I didn't replace anything. I did what I always did back then, I watched the world turn from my MFO cave occasionally poking my head out to say something. I was never a competent poltiician/revolutionary back then, and I would've been a fool to try. So I watched your revolution instead (considering it was televised and everything) but unfortunately the TV is broken now and I'm getting a bit sick of all this white noise and static so I'm resorting to yelling enviously over the fence at crusty old war vets. I know you can't fix the TV anymore than I can but what else is there to do?

    And when I said backslapping orgy I was expecting the thread to become busier than this. I guess the rest of Vox are moving forward while we're still stuck on the damn treadmill.

  2. [quote name='Doitzel' timestamp='1306087095' post='2716644']
    So do you. If I or any of us really gave two !@#$% we'd be doing something, trust me. If you haven't noticed we're not the only ones reminiscing and saying things have gone to the dogs. Half the threads on the front page of OWF are either good-byes or "remember when..." threads. The last time nobody was !@#$%*ing about stagnation was when we were around because, believe it or not, fart jokes went out of style with Rugrats and curbstomps aren't interesting. The [i]point[/i] is that people moaning about how static things are have nobody to blame but themselves (and their unhealthy attachment to their infra levels).

    Personally, I've done everything there is to do. Seriously [i]everything[/i]. I'll see you all in hell.
    [/quote]

    Eh, whatever Doitzel.

  3. [quote name='Systemfailure' timestamp='1306069359' post='2716537']
    yeah they should form an AA to change the world, get a whole bunch of experienced players and band togeather, call it Vox Pop...oh wait

    exactly how many times do they have to change the world?
    [/quote]

    You misunderstand, my issue is with these burnt out revolutionaries complaining about the state of the world and blaming everyone else for what it has become. Instead of actively doing something to try and change things they continue to relive their glory days with their former comrades in one big backslapping orgy.

    Good revolutionaries always move forward, they do not live in the past.

  4. [quote name='Doitzel' timestamp='1306045165' post='2716477']
    We would have been more relevant had we played three sides of every fence trying to cozy up with whoever held the reigns of power. It's a real a shame we took a stand on something, instead, but it was all part of our very transparent plan to restore ourselves to places of power. That's what Vox Populi was all about ... right?
    [/quote]
    Yeah, you guys were like so alternative man.

    If you're so disapointed with the state of the world today why don't you get down from that soap box, stop prattling on about past glories and take some of your own advice and try to shape this world more to your liking? Just a thought.

  5. [quote name='New Frontier' timestamp='1305767892' post='2714652']
    I wouldn't steal a ladies purse, but if someone hands me a thousand bucks and tells me to buy myself something nice, I will.
    [/quote]

    I'm in no mood for riddles, tell it to me straight.

  6. [quote name='New Frontier' timestamp='1305696517' post='2714191']
    I'll be honest, you guys aren't off to a good start, but I'd rather see you guys get a hand up than get shunted to the curb forever over this. If you're interested in some help and advice, come over to #deinos.
    [/quote]


    I see you've changed your mind about that then.

  7. [quote name='Darklordtim' timestamp='1305648155' post='2713672']I was still the first official honorary member of Darkfall! But it's good to not be alone anymore :) congrats The Chief and Xander! :D
    [/quote]
    Until I too am made an honorary member i will boycott #darkfall :mad:


    Congrats to CSM and Xander!

  8. [quote name='pezstar' timestamp='1305558513' post='2712844']
    I haven't actually heard any solid arguments against this. I've only seen some folks declaring that it's a coup and coups are bad. Poorly planned, amateur coups tend to be bad ideas because, believe it or not, running an alliance is not an easy task. It takes an enormous amount of energy and engagement.

    This was not that. This is a well planned coup by a group of long time nation leaders and experienced alliance leaders... a group that any one of us would be lucky to have amongst our memberships. It did not happen because OMG SO UNFAIR WE NO LIKE OUR LEADER. It happened because Gramlins is an alliance which deserves to be brought back to it's glory, rather than languishing about as a husk of its former self. To dismiss this as merely a cookie cutter coup, not so uncommon in this world, is quite a bit of a misconception.

    I like Ramirus. I've had numerous conversations with him, and he's interesting and fun to discuss things with. There is no denying, however, that he made the wrong choices with Gramlins and utterly destroyed the alliance.

    Best of luck, guys. I don't think you'll need much of it, but you deserve it, nonetheless. Counted amongst you are several folks I hold in the highest regard, and I really hope this works out well for you.
    [/quote]


    I would've used this many words, but it's the afternoon and I just woke up. :P

  9. [quote name='D34th' timestamp='1305557705' post='2712840']
    I stopped posting one page before that post.



    I hate to quote myself but as I said is a waste of time continue to argue about this when majority of the replies that I get are people trying to deny this is a coup, "Might makes right" or "Do something about it" posts.

    Just to make it clear: what happened in Polaris was before I join and was a very different type of coup, I'll let people wonder why it was so different, and anyway I never defended it, so I don't see the point of people trying to using that as a argument against me.

    I already made my point clear and there is no reason to keep posting here so this is my last post in this thread.
    [/quote]


    I agree, it's a coup. It's also a perfectly acceptable coup. Why should these ex-gremlins (some of them ex govt) not be allowed to take back what was once their home from the man who helped to destroy it?

  10. [quote name='SpoiL' timestamp='1305556113' post='2712833']
    If he was a democratically elected leader, than why wasn't he a democratically ejected leader. The members are as much of a failure as he is. Go ahead and google your own scapegoat image.
    [/quote]

    The irony of an NSO member complaining about undemocratic practices. It's killing me.

    How many ex-Gremlins re-joined the AA in the past 48 hours? How many people on the AA currently support Ramirus? It's probably safe to say that the majority of members on the AA don't support him and that's democratic enough for me. There's no need to arse around and put on some ridiculous democratic charade which everyone already knows the result to before it even ends. This is a very straight forward situation but for some reason you have a problem with it and feel the need to e-lawyer their charter. Why?

  11. [quote name='D34th' timestamp='1304938393' post='2709010']
    There are two possibilities to this cases: Or they are just exceptions or they started to fight just after being that big and had the warchets to keep their nations at that size, I'm more inclined to believe in the later.
    [/quote]

    You're free to believe whatever you want, doesn't make you right though :)

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