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  1. [quote name='NoFish' timestamp='1323321472' post='2868469']
    So are they going to pre-empt WTF next? They haven't announced that they're going to be neutral this war but have shown just as much inclination to join as CRAP and TTK.
    [/quote]

    WTF are a neutral alliance. That's pretty common knowledge.

    [quote name='Delta1212' timestamp='1323321720' post='2868487']
    That's what TOP said about MK.


    And for the record... You should not have hit CRAP.
    [/quote]


    No?

  2. [quote name='NoFish' timestamp='1323321276' post='2868456']
    Since when was it the responsibility of an alliance to announce neutrality in order to not get attacked? I've seen nothing to indicate that either of them planned to join the war.
    [/quote]

    I've seen or heard nothing to indicate that they didn't plan to join the war, only when word got leaked that they were going to be hit and that was third party information so naturally I was skeptical. I received no queries from CRAP or TTK stating their intent to stay out after they were becoming aware that this might've happened. Of course it's not their responsibility to have to declare neutrality but if that was indeed their plan from the start it would've helped. If I got word that someone was maybe going to attack my alliance pre-emptively to stop me defending my allies and I intended on staying neutral I would goto that alliance and inform them of my intent. Even if it was just a rumour with little verification it's best to nip these things in the bud.

  3. [quote name='NoFish' timestamp='1323320685' post='2868403']
    Am I missing something here or did DH just declare on a bunch of alliances - including two who are currently neutral due to treaty conflicts - because they felt like they could?
    [/quote]

    I've seen nothing to indicate any neutrality claimed by CRAP and TTK, a number of alliances in this war have treaty conflicts and they're still fighting regardless. If there was any real intent to stay neutral it could have been announced, otherwise the bulk of their treaties point to them providing support for SF. We're just pre-empting that support.

    This isn't just because we can, there is a strategic reason behind it. For me it's nothing personal, just business.

  4. [quote name='Heft' timestamp='1322427248' post='2853973']
    The pre-emptive strike was always controversial and opposed by NSO at the time, mostly because the whole "Strategizing" thing left us and so many others flapping in the breeze for a good week while everyone deliberated, and it just seemed to be an example of you guys outsmarting yourselves. Also it seems to have established a pretty stupid precedent and continued the gradual decline of anyone giving a !@#$ about having a decent political reason for going to war (see: DH/NPO and now this itself). Conjuring up CBs was half the fun, now it's just the popular kid rounding up his friends to beat up the unpopular kid.

    But in any case, the pre-emptive strike certainly didn't lose the war, and wasn't anywhere near on par with Grub's sudden bout of staggering and baffling idiocy.
    [/quote]

    There seems little point in wasting time conjuring up a CB if everyone already knows it's bs. It was still gathering friends and beating on the unpopular kid when people spent time manufacturing their reasons, at least this is more honest and there's actually a reason Polar are unpopular (which is their own doing)

  5. [quote name='D34th' timestamp='1321991026' post='2849172']
    I wonder if people can keep a straight face in their private conversations with their allies when they request/recommend/advise said allies to drop their treaties with RIA, when they were the ones bashing Xiphosis when Xiphosis requested GOONS to drop their treaty with MK. Hypocrisy is a world who never get old around here.
    [/quote]

    I don't think Xiph told GOONS to drop their MK treaty, could be wrong though.

  6. [center][size=7][b][font=comic sans ms][color=blue][url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman%27s_Treaty][img]http://deinos.partytowne.ca/Smileys/default/batman.gif[/img]*~Batman's Treaty~*[img]http://deinos.partytowne.ca/Smileys/default/batman.gif[/img][/url][/color][/font][/b][/size]

    [img]http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/7335/trexe.png[/img][/center]

    [font=comic sans ms][size=4]I. Sovereignty
    Umbrella and Deinos are both pretty okay in their own special ways! Both parties agree to respect that.

    II. Non-Aggression
    Umbrella and Deinos agree to never harm one another, or to assist someone else in harming the other.

    IV. Cooperation and Defence
    Both Deinos and Umbrella agree to have each other's backs should either party be attacked by a foreign power. Should that attack come as the result of either party's outside treaties, such assistance is optional. Both parties also have the option to assist the other in an aggressive war. In addition to military assistance, both Deinos and Umbrella agree to provide all possible political, financial and informational assistance the other may require.

    V. Cancellation
    Either Deinos or Umbrella can cancel this treaty at any time by giving 72 hours notice, after which the treaty is null and void

    [i]~Signed for Umbrella~[/i]
    [b]Johnny Apocalypse:[/b] President
    [b]Raken:[/b] Vice-President
    [b]Natan, Puppets:[/b] Field Marshall
    [b]Lusitan, Daikos, NFL Generic:[/b] Envoy
    [b]NationRuler:[/b] Economist
    [b]The Chief:[/b] Wiseman
    [b]Domisi:[/b] Generator
    [i]~Signed for Deinos~[/i]
    [b]Cheyenne:[/b] Tyrant King
    [b]Silver Empress:[/b] Dromiceiomimus Princess
    [b]Magister Agricolarum:[/b] Raptor Lord of Finance
    [b]Merry Rarebit:[/b] Raptor Lord of Development
    [b]Gloin:[/b] Raptor Lord of the Interior
    [b]Amelsh:[/b] Raptor Lord of War
    [b]WaltThizzney, aka Melancholy Culkin, aka FyfeXIV:[/b] Raptor Lord of Diplomacy
    [/size][/font]

  7. [quote name='rsoxbronco1' timestamp='1320558392' post='2840089']
    My personal opinions regarding MK's handling of FA in the fall of 2010 are pretty much a matter of record.

    There are a lot of things that could be handled better and I think this thread is one of them, but, Londo, you should probably not show anything but empathy for the fact that sometimes people make rash decisions that could have been better thought out.
    [/quote]

    Sure Londo has done some pretty dumb things in the past but he also took a lot of !@#$ for it from MK and his allies, it seems only fair that he should be able to return the favour if he feels they've done some dumb !@#$ too.

  8. [quote name='Bob Janova' timestamp='1320431327' post='2838559']
    So wait, you're coming in to ride to NSO's rescue so they can not admit defeat in a war they've lost, and so they can spew crap about not having lost for the next year?

    I really don't see what you gain by this. NSO is not of value to either of you, and your moral obligation to get Tetris out of the hole would be better fulfilled by encouraging them to agree to a peace agreement without letting NSO keep them there with their stubbornness.
    [/quote]

    I believe the OP says that they'll attack both NSO and Legion if they don't resolve this.

  9. [quote name='Jens of the desert' timestamp='1318694743' post='2825640']
    I love sweeping statements, don't you?
    [/quote]

    I sure do, especially when they're right. If you think otherwise then find me some good propaganda from a combatant fighting in this war (you won't, I'm very fussy about this sort of thing)

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