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[quote name='Larajoseph' timestamp='1322302414' post='2852261']
[font="Verdana"]I am not a member of Legion government. I have no authority of any kind. I do, however, have opinions. This is the post I made when Unknown Smurf posted his resignation from the Legion shortly after he made this demeaning, insulting post:
His resignation thread was dated about 3 minutes after the original post in this thread. Even he knew he'd finally gone too far. In another post on our forums, also time-stamped a minute or two after this post, he stated he was drunk. That is not an excuse or a reason for doing this !@#$. There is no !@#$@#$ excuse or reason for this post. As a member of The Legion, I wish to publicly and abjectly apologize to all of the fine alliances he insulted in his original post, and pray you will accept the apologies of at least myself in the spirit in which they are offered. [/font]
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Stop.
Just stop.
Your overreactions are only making it worse. Some people find that kind of thing hilarious, but I really don't.
So please, just stop. We get it, hes not a member anymore and etc etc. -
[quote name='Regent Pancras' timestamp='1322300953' post='2852231']
Unknown Smurf is not a member of, nor does he speak on behalf of The Legion government. He is an idiot who does not know when to keep his mouth shut, and who decided to post a frankly imbecilic post on a subject he knows nothing about.[/quote]See?
Not that hard at all.
[quote]This is totally undiplomatic language which as Minister of Foreign Affairs I am disgusted by. On behalf of The Legion Government I wish to offer an unreserved apology to any of the alliances insulted in Unknown Smurf's misguided attempt to be funny or shine the spotlight on himself.
[/quote]That's quite the overreaction, by the way. As a fellow MoFA (Master of Lies) I have got to say that if you want to be more successful at your job you oughtta pop your collar and chill. Appearing to take these kinds of things so seriously somewhat impedes your ability to do your job.
Friendly advice.
[quote name='generals3' timestamp='1322302129' post='2852256']
It seems a lot of people didn't notice what smurf did there. Ah well, i thought it was funny.
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"If you have to explain the joke then there [i]is[/i] no joke!"
That's the problem with trying too hard to be clever. Stuff flies over peoples heads and the effort becomes wasted. -
[quote name='Alexander Kerensky' timestamp='1322295061' post='2852147']
As Proconsul of the Legion I definitely say Unknown Smurf, at best is three sheets to the wind on this, this was neither intelligent nor funny. I find it unfortunate that a member of Legion would post something like this on their own in a desperate need for attention. It would seem that some lose the concept of their actions and how it reflects not on themselves but on the Alliance they are a part of.
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Couldn't you have found a member of government to make this comment who hasn't been guilty of doing the same thing a number of times themselves?
Also: Smurf.
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[quote name='Il Impero Romano' timestamp='1322296131' post='2852164']
No offense, but you personally make people not like your alliance. Something to think about and friendly advice.
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He's had a habit of doing that since he was in the NPO.
Happy Hunting, TOP, no one deserves this more than you all do. -
[quote name='AzureShadow' timestamp='1322236676' post='2851011']
It seems like the only actual disagreement we have here is that you think them screwing you was intentional, while I think it was not. Apart from your vigorous anti-Legion epeen stroking, of course, which has nothing to do with this thread or our discussion whatsoever, as I'm arguing entirely from my point of view from \m/.
I'll echo the sentiments of dcrews20 and say that having Grub or another high-up in Polar comment on this would be nice to clear up whatever misunderstanding most of the world still seems to have on this issue.
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Well, to be fair, given the circumstances, I find it fairly difficult to figure out how they could have done so on accident, when everything they did at that time was entirely deliberate.
Well, Im sure if you were to actually look it up on the threads from back then, you'd find numerous gems of Polar members blaming us for it, due to some nonsense about our insufferable egos being why we deserved to be left hanging. Oh well.
But since it's Grub, I can't imagine hed deny it. -
[quote name='AzureShadow' timestamp='1322224862' post='2850960']
It sounds more to me like there was a serious miscommunication issue between you and your allies, rather than an actual "master plan" on their part. That's not something to be ashamed of or anything, it happens between alliances all the time.[/quote]
Wait.
Wait.
[i]Wait.[/i]
The New Polar Order doesn't tell [i]anyone of their involved allies of their intent to peace out, including ourselves and STA and somehow the error lies with the people who were intentionally left in the dark?[/i]
My god. It all makes sense now. Thank you, [i]so much[/i], for opening my eyes. Grub! Can you ever forgive me?
[quote]Is it possible Grub lied? Of course. It's also possible that you're the one making reaching assumptions about NpO's intentions when the far simpler explanation is just a serious issue with lack of communications. Hell, we in \m/ probably had better communication with NpO during the war while we were fighting them than you did at the time, going by what you're telling me.
[/quote]Um. Yes, actually. The NpO kept people not fighting alongside them more abreast of the situation than those that they dragged into their coalition alongside them.
It's like you're beginning to grasp the problem here, but refusing to reach the conclusion that the facts of the situation lead to.
[quote]Regardless, this discussion has no place in this thread, and it's been derailed long enough.[/quote]The OP is a question requesting a detailing of the history of CN.
We are discussing two competing views of an event in CN's history. One is correct, and one is stupendously false. Since the OP wants to know about CNs history, surprisingly enough, me correcting your misrepresentations is entirely on topic. Honestly.
Lately Im thinking you Legionarres are trying to rip off my playbook and are failing spectacularly at it. But mere imitation will only get you so far. -
[quote name='AzureShadow' timestamp='1322195012' post='2850802']
I think you're the one being disingenuous by trying to claim that Polar intentionally screwed over their allies. Their allies screwed themselves over quite nicely by turning that war into something a lot larger than the original intent of the war was.[/quote]Hello. I am in the NSO.
I was in the NSO when the New Polar Order peaced out with you, then redeclared against TOP and didnt even bother to let us, their MDP partners, know about this grand master plan ahead of time. What leg do you have to stand on again?
[quote][b]NpO made it quite clear to \m/ in negotiations for the blanket white peace that they did not want the war to escalate any farther than the conflict between our two alliances. [/b]Trying to make it appear otherwise is foolish and, quite frankly, wrong. I won't claim to know what the ultimate desires of Grub or anyone else in NpO were during that war, but I do know for a fact that the war started between us with the intent of them trying to teach \m/ and friends a lesson and vice versa and the expanded conflict that started as a result had motives by the offending parties for completely different reasons.[/quote]Um.
Then Grub lied.
Shocker. Grub expanded it by inviting TOP and Co to the party, via their chains with us at the time (I know what Im talking about? Wild I know)
[quote]EDIT: And, for the record, I'm in no way trying to stick up for Almighty Grub or NpO in general. I still harbor quite a bit of resentment for him from how much of a prat he was during that whole deal. But I'm also not going to let blatant falsehoods such as what you're trying to pass as the correct version of history go unobjected either. Unfortunately my account on the \m/ forums no longer exists or I'd go dig up the discussion we had about this very topic.
[/quote]Name one falsehood I've stated, rather than you "knowing" or "assuming" or "not thinking".
Before you go spouting hyperbole, at least make sure that [i]you have some of the facts on your side first[/i]. You may believe that you recall events correctly. You may not think you're misrepresenting what happened.
But the fact is just...simply...that you're wrong. Oh well. And this is your weekly history lesson, courtesy of TehChron. -
[quote name='AzureShadow' timestamp='1322176915' post='2850663']
It got started over an \m/ member calling Grub a racial slur in IRC, combined with \m/'s string of general ill will towards the game in general and a complete lack of control of its members by the government.
I was in \m/ during the whole ordeal, and really we deserved it. The horrible response on part of our government to one of its members going out of his way to be a belligerent asshat was half the reason I left in the first place.
The war exploding into the cluster**** [b]it turned into was no fault of ours, nor of NpO's[/b], and I'm still rather unsure as to why people continue to blame them for such. They ended the conflict with us because the conflict was over, the rest of the wars that started as a result wasn't their problem.
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I'm sorry. Are you sure you know what you're talking about? Grub not only arrayed the coalition personally when he declared on \m/, but I'm relatively sure that the only alliance to change sides mid-conflict in that particular war (and any war, iirc) was the New Polar Order.
That was totally their fault. They carried out the action entirely of their own volition. And your alliance government intentionally provoked him, thinking they could get away with it.
You might have a case if Grub ended it completely after peacing out with \m/. No one would have had a problem. The issue comes from the fact that the New Polar Order [i]intentionally took that war and used it as an opportunity to screw over the entire coalition they had assembled, including direct allies.[/i] Additionally, what other wars werent their problem? It was all the same war.
*shakes his head*
And all I need to do is look at your AA to prove my point about the only people giving the NpO any leeway are the ones who can't do any better. Sheesh man, either you're being horribly disingenuous or just have no idea what you're talking about. Either way you're trying to present a view of events wholly divorced from reality. -
[quote name='hormones74' timestamp='1322182580' post='2850711']
ALRIGHT PEOPLE!!!!!
Back to the task at hand.
1. Polar lacks in testicular fortitude.
2. They went to PM over rumors.
3. Polars testicles still haven't dropped.
4. Polar is hiding behind SF[s] over a rumor.[/s][b][i]in order to save themselves from the FAIL military juggernaut.[/i][/b]
[/quote]I felt the need to correct this misconception before it carried on any further.
[quote name='Tygaland' timestamp='1322183653' post='2850717']
It seems you are not fine. Can I offer you a hot beverage to calm your nerves?
I have been told to eat worse things right here on the forum. Regardless, I shall have to decline. I don't like salad.
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Not even Raspberry chicken or Asian salad?
Heathen. -
[quote name='lordliam' timestamp='1322092038' post='2850060']
I think the original rationale behind the whole thing was that we were under obligation to defend our allies, even if our allies were on different sides. So it resulted in a very confusing, essentially three-sided war. Can't remember the details now really but I recall a lot of confusion and anger on the part of many members in Polar. It doesn't help that I myself was ordered to attack one side and then ended up taking hits from another bloc entirely. Not good times for Cadia.
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The New Polar Order declared, got TOP/IRON/STA and NSO and its friends involved. Then cut its losses and changed sides midconflict, leaving all of the people that went in with them out to dry. And Im pretty sure it got started over Grub crying the victim over some IRC shenanigans, it was kind of lame.
That being said, BiPolar is probably the single biggest backstab in CN history. There were no "three sides", just two, and the Polars rather happily threw their allies under the bus. It's honestly no wonder that no one trusts that alliance , except for the folks that can't do any better. -
[quote name='AlmightyGrub' timestamp='1322040901' post='2849627']
There are crossfire issues that I regret, but screwing TOP is not one of them.
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Sorry, but this is the only part of you hanging yourself on a cross again that really caught my attention, but...
No. No you don't regret that in the slightest. And that's why most people who once called Polaris allies and brothers wouldn't waste their piss should your alliance be set on fire themselves.
Because as far as you're concerned, the only thing regrettable about that decision was that it backfired so spectacularly for you. Not the collateral damage. -
[quote name='Voytek' timestamp='1321995621' post='2849236']
has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
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Ow. That physically hurt.
Great impression.[quote name='D34th' timestamp='1321995707' post='2849238']
They see me rollin, they hatin
[/quote]No, I'm just genuinely curious.
But ok if you want to feed your martyr complex, then by all means, feel free to think that. -
[quote name='Londo Mollari' timestamp='1321995477' post='2849232']
Good meatshields don't have the habit of betraying you midwar and then leaving to fight for the other side.
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Yes, but a fine meatshield just sits there, takes up offensive slots, and complains about how no one loves them anymore.
[quote name='Londo Mollari' timestamp='1321995350' post='2849230']
You mentioned that their being in peace mode would preclude gathering together and rolling them. It worked pretty well for the Continuum with FAN, and Polar is no FAN.
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Ah, I missed that particular episode. -
[quote name='D34th' timestamp='1321995293' post='2849229']
Since when point out hypocrisy the hypocrisy of those who were criticizing Xiphosis and now are doing the same thing he did is [i]ad hominem[/i]?
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Why did they let you have a government office?
I mean, at least I come across as a rational individual some of the time. You can't even manage that much. I'm frankly baffled.
No but that being said Congrats, once again, to the Random Insanity Alliance on the acquisition of a fine, fine meatshield. -
[quote name='Londo Mollari' timestamp='1321995170' post='2849227']
I don't think Polar could pull a FAN. They'd crumble.
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What does FAN have to do with hiding in a corner hoping RV doesnt notice them? -
[quote name='Londo Mollari' timestamp='1321994832' post='2849223']
This man knows what he's talking about. Why is there so much of an obsession to roll Superfriends when Lolblue is the most offensive enemy around these days? Everyone just needs to join hands and put Lolblue out of its misery.
Besides, Ordo Paradoxia has already effectively defeated GOD. The powers that be should take out the blue sphere before Vlad and RV upstage them there too!
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With Polaris in peace mode already, I think it's safe to say that it's already too late for that!
I mean, I understand the strategy:
Lord knows I'd never want to face down an angry RV in a dark alley on my own without some treaty chains as backup. So I guess hiding in a corner until the threat passes is strategically acceptable.
But damn it's lame nonetheless. -
[quote name='dcrews20' timestamp='1321973373' post='2849007']
TOP has a good reason to hate you. As does the rest of BOB, so why don't you own up like a man instead of running away like a !@#$%.
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He's not running away, he's just still trying to fit into Sponge's shoes despite it being years of him not being able to live up to his example.
When you see a [i]real[/i] Glorious !@#$%^&, it's pretty difficult to be impressed with posers.
I think that what Polaris should keep in mind isn't that they're the victim of some grand scheme, or fate is just against them, or anything like that. The New Polar Order is just a bunch of jackasses. They have been since they were founded. And the height of their power was when they were able to honestly leverage that aspect of their personality.
They then fell from grace when they decided to be (a la Grub) cowardly opportunists rather than balls-out Magnificent !@#$%^&*. And the consequences of those acts of opportunism and cowardice have lead Polaris to where it is now.
A pretty sad alliance that needs to rely upon the institutionalization of Peace Mode, and then rationalize it as being a "smart war time tactic", when the only reason they're afraid of war is due to the consequences of their own actions and poorly hidden paranoia.
I've watched the New Polar Order since it was founded. And even though my opinion doesn't count for !@#$, that doesn't make me any less right. Frankly, y'all suck. I mean, you are a pretty terrible alliance. By your own hands, too. Which makes it even sadder.
I like RIA, though. Good on you guys for taking the smart option of using a meatshield. You guys really will need it, and let's be honest, so many people are gonna want a piece of Polaris that they'll probably take some offensive slots off you guys when the war actually comes.
Good luck, RIA. -
[quote name='Dexomega' timestamp='1321990785' post='2849171']
I approve of the image, however I'm not sure about the rest of the comment. Mostly because I'm not sure if you mean speechless in a good or bad way.
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He's been rendered speechless by the sheer depth of your ignorance.
I mean, I know that you're in UPN, which implies that your ability to notice your surroundings is comparable to a turkey looking up in a rainstorm, but you have simply got to realize that no matter what you do, what you say, or how you posture; As a general rule, RV is better than you.
It's Rebel Virginia's Law.
No matter what, RV always wins. Even when he loses, he has still won. Resistance is futile. -
[quote name='Llanowar Elf' timestamp='1321947559' post='2848861']
Man, now your going to force our youngins to knock an old fart of his rocking chair. Ahh well. Think he fell off the rocker long ago actually...I particularly enjoyed where you asked for monetary help, lol. Anyways, i look forward to see you do...something.
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That's how I've felt about Polaris for the past year or so, actually.
Anyway, Godspeed, FAIL.
Godspeed.
Edit: [quote name='NoMercy' timestamp='1321948328' post='2848863']
NpO must be afraid..being in peace mode and all...
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You'd think that they'd at least put up a fight before giving in to the mighty FAIL warmachine. -
[quote name='USMC123' timestamp='1321905264' post='2848264']
You missed the joke :<
EDIT: Well maybe not. Maybe I missed yours :V
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Well, I'll make one to help round things out:
To the alliance of Happy Boat, I hope you live up to your name.
In a very literal sense.
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[quote name='WarriorConcept' timestamp='1321114838' post='2843742']
We need more callouts.
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Ill get right on that, boss.
Also. Hal.
This is Pretty Bad. -
Congrats to Deinos in how far they've come.
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[quote name='Unknown Smurf' timestamp='1320645089' post='2840918']
Shall I dig up the post of mine showing TehChron and Varianz (well Krunk and Charles Stuart as well, but neither of them matter) did acknowledge their 1v1 taunts?
[/QUOTE]Such a post doesnt exist. The only one acknowledging such a taunt in the only post youve made to that effect featured myself admitting it. A far cry from what you're trying to present that as.
Edit: Also im never really around on the weekends. I think ive told you that before? -
[quote name='Rebel Virginia' timestamp='1320630609' post='2840759']
[color="#0000FF"]Do I need to dig up Rush's post where after countless hours of looking he found absolutely no members of the NSO saying that we could beat Legion on our own?[/color]
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No, RV, he just couldn't find anyone [i]that mattered[/i].
I will freely admit to having made those taunts.
Congratulations on the peace to all involved. I sincerely didn't believe that the Legion had this much fight in them.
[quote]Once again I find some reason to admire Umbrella and want to emulate them.[/quote]Hal.
I say this as a friend and acquaintance. For your own good, quit trying to be a low-rent Schattenman. It's painful to watch.
[quote name='JOSEPHIVS MAGNVS' timestamp='1320614507' post='2840559']
Congrats to all parts. To the enemies I have fought during my short time in the conflict:
-DarknessDecends or Ambigua (Tetris)
-Ollanius Pius of Imperium of Man (NSO)
-Te[b]h[/b]chron of Chronorica (NSO)
-Turin of Fictinal Nation (NSO)
-another one I may have forgotten...
I salute you, no hard feelings gentlemen .
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You were the one to put the final nail in my coffin, so props to you for being effective down there. I had honestly thought the only one of you guys worthwhile at that range was jacka, so good on you for correcting that horrible miscalculation on my part.
As for most of the Legionarres I fought? Well, you can't remember the ones that didn't leave an impression, I guess. But congratulations for giving me my first wartime anarchies since 2008. Really. It was a good war.
Declaration of Support
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Posted · Edited by TehChron
Edit: Random double post