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  2. A new Declaration from The Order of the Paradox

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    Posted · Edited by TehChron

    [quote name='IYIyTh' timestamp='1322567138' post='2855780']
    Gangsters. I see the post-war propoganda unfolding before my eyes.
    [/quote]
    God I love provoking people with faux outrage. :awesome:
    [quote name='AlmightyGrub' timestamp='1322557916' post='2855733']


    As for NSO, you do really understand you had white peace on the table before you arrogantly declared war on the alliance offering you the said white peace. You are a collection of try hards who feel the need to blow off steam towards anyone who doesn't do things exactly as you want. You wanted to join the war, we didn't activate the treaty, and we offered to get you out of the war but you insisted on making the situation impossible with your stupidity and arrogance. I regret not tying things up more tightly at the time with Fark, but I tried extremely hard to fix it in the following 24 hours and had a solution for you. You simply were too impatient and too arrogant to wait for a few hours for me to resolve the issues, !@#$ting on me from a great height while you did so.[/quote]
    I mean, yeah, Grub, you really do suck. But are you worth the time for me to be honestly mad?

    Naw. You really aren't. If I particularly cared enough to really hold a grudge, you'd bet I'd be doing something about it right about now. But I don't, so you're more than welcome to carry on being a millstone on the neck of your community. You know. Being useless. Dragging them down. Accomplishing nothing.

    I'm sure you're enjoying yourself. (side note: since you didn't bother to tell us about this "white peace" you keep throwing about, we decalared an offensive war in order to nullify treaty obligations by our treaty partners, [i]in order to save them from being involved in your crap.[/i] Last I check such was called loyalty, not arrogance. )
    [quote name='AlmightyGrub' timestamp='1322557916' post='2855733']I don't like your alliance, I liked and respected your leader at the time (and I still do) and everything I have seen since made me extremely glad to be isolated from you.

    I am responsible for what happened, I did it and have admitted as much several dozen times. That I refuse to be repentant about it doesn't mean I don't have some regrets. Screwing TOP is not among my regrets even now, screwing NSO certainly is. I have apologized to you, but in your typically arrogant gangster attitude, you refuse to move on. Whatever to be honest. I can make my peace with Ivan and be satisfied. The rest of you are on borrowed time any way.


    [/quote]
    Perhaps. But you know, despite being rolled over and over again, we still live on with dignity, rather than living in denial and having our membership begging everyone within earshot to use Ivan as a scapegoat to try and become relevant again. Not that the community you've created would know that.

    You know. Dignity.

  3. A new Declaration from The Order of the Paradox

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    [quote name='Mergerberger II' timestamp='1322552202' post='2855704']
    False. The revisionism that is present in today's CN to make Polaris look worse than it is is astounding. Yes, we screwed you, but we did accept responsibility and that was made known to your government following the war. We apologized, it was accepted, and we all moved on. It was only some months later that the issue resurfaced as if it hadn't been addressed.
    [/quote]
    No it wasn't, considering I was an active part of said government.

    You sent a PM after the war blaming Grub for the mess and saying we should have gotten out sooner no matter what was on the table. Or a query. It was [i]probably[/i] just a post-it note tacked onto the fridge in the old Frostbite lounge.

    So...yeah, revisionism my ass. Only revisionists in this discussion are you guys trying to pretend your actions are anyone else's fault but your own.

  4. A new Declaration from The Order of the Paradox

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    [quote name='Mergerberger II' timestamp='1322551873' post='2855700']
    We don't wonder anything. We are fully aware of why there is a strong sentiment if distaste for us. What BloodFury said was that no effort whatsoever had been made to accept responsibility for our actions, whereas in fact we have accepted responsibility. That is all that was said. I didn't say I ever expected any forgiveness, all that was said was that we had accepted responsibility.
    [/quote]
    Im pretty sure that isn't the case with regards to the Sith.

    Y'all somehow still have it internally rationalized that us being left out on the field to burn is our fault.

    It takes a special kind of worthless ally, and an even more special kind of mass delusion to pull something like that off.

  5. A new Declaration from The Order of the Paradox

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    [quote name='Fallen Fool' timestamp='1322551622' post='2855695']
    So you checked with people close to me before labeling me arrogant and condescending?

    No? We accepted that we did what we did and we know why we did it.

    You personally, on the other hand, see very keen to divorce yourself from the situation entirely.

    So you fundamentally misread a foreign leader and ordered a failed military strike which resulted in both significant statistical damage and massive reparations but hey, that is not your fault! You were just the alliance leader! You did not have any input whatsoever into how events unfolded.

    You too bud. :ehm:
    [/quote]And while youre busy rationalizing why backstabbing TOP was A-OK, youre still pointedly ignoring the fact that you also screwed over two of your [i]direct allies, only one of which you made any real attempt to make amends to[/i].

    So yeah. You keep trying there, I'm sure youll be able to convince everyone of how youre a victim and we'll all feel so sorry for poor you that we'll all intervene and get TOP and IRON rolled on your behalf. Really. Itll happen. It totally will.

  6. A new Declaration from The Order of the Paradox

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    Posted · Edited by TehChron

    [quote name='Mergerberger II' timestamp='1322551020' post='2855681']




    I could take these exact same words and apply them to Grub. No one close to Grub believes he is arrogant or condescending. Your main mistake was your weird plan to declare war on C&G for no reason and also bandwaggon on the back of our CB, as if it had something to do with a war on completely different alliances.


    [/quote]
    Polaris dragged IRON and TOP in on [i]our[/i] backs, actually. And the reasoning was that CnG would be dragged in by treaty chains due to the way Polaris had recklessly barreled through in starting that war.

    And then proceeded to leave the Sith to burn with the rest of them.

    So yeah. TOP and IRON arent the only ones your alliance backstabbed. And we have a [i]hell[/i] of a lot better reason to be happy to see you burn.

    And make no mistake: We are enjoying it.

  8. A new Declaration from The Order of the Paradox

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    Posted · Edited by TehChron

    [quote name='Fallen Fool' timestamp='1322545616' post='2855590']
    You are assigning a dark ulterior motive to my entire alliance with little knowledge how my people actually responded to the events of BiPolar because it suits your petty, narrow-minded sense of vengeance. Do not pretend you are doing anything else.

    And if you think Grub actually is indicative of Polar as whole then you are either tragically misguided or laughably detached from reality.
    [/quote]
    When you all find the spine to move out from under his shadow and actually make amends for your actions, rather than blaming everyone else (hi) for your collective nonsense, maybe this fine sentiment you're expressing here will manage to gain some traction with people.

    Until then, $%&@ off, you self-righteous ass. You left your allies (hi) to die on the battlefield after that backstabbing and then proceeded to blame us for having the gall to expect treatment equal to what you gave the rest of your allies as a consolation prize for nearly getting them rolled?

    Again, screw off, you self-righteous tool.

    Don't even [i]talk[/i] to people about narrow-mindedness, considering Polar Tunnel Vision. You're almost as bad as the Legion.

    Get out. Seriously. Get out, right now.

  10. Legends of Cybernations

    in Open World RP

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    [quote name='Delta1212' timestamp='1322542583' post='2855516']
    Who said anything about pictures? :v:
    [/quote]
    Just rehearsing my lines of argument for whatever proof you present to back up your claims.

    You don't seriously expect the rest of us to take your word for it, now do you?

  13. Legion and the ethics of loyalty

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    Posted

    [quote name='justavictim82' timestamp='1322529477' post='2855248']
    I still think people do not understand the concept of 'He left on his own'. Believe what you want to believe.



    Except as I stated above as well as by other members of the Legion that he left on his own fruition. What part of that do people not understand? You are same people that told him to shut up during the war and now all the sudden because he is doing the cool thing and bashing Legion he is excused of all dumb posting? Looks great on you.

    Again I reiterate that I have no issues with Smurf other than this attention grab. He knows that as well.

    Edit:Grammar derp
    [/quote]
    I find it deeply hilarious that you don't even debate the references to your government. I mean, there's just some things that simply can not be disagreed with seriously.

    Anyway, the Sith have him now, and I, for one, am glad of it.

  14. Legion and the ethics of loyalty

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    Posted

    [quote name='Confusion' timestamp='1322456460' post='2854258']
    You seem mad. Why are you mad, doe?
    [/quote]
    Because throwing loyal members under the bus for a joke thread is a practice that honestly kind of disgusts me.

    [quote]there seems to be some misunderstanding in that this was a reaction to a single thread. that is not the case. as many will have already noted smurf was and perhaps still will be very active here on the bb's. after a number of his posts/threads we'd decided to speek to him about his intentions and the ramifications of what he wrote given that the posts/threads could be interpreted as an alliance wide state of mind. on every occasion he had indicated that he would bear in mind what we had said prior to any more activity here. however, while his intentions may have been pure, that which we had discussed must not have been aparent enough to resound in his arguments and observations. after some time, though he had been loyal on the field of battle, the disloyalty by not observing our disussions and the implied meaning, be those clearly expressed or sujestive, began to give us cause for concern. the thread in question was the final stroke delievered by himself and his removal from foreign affairs and consequent resignation from the alliance was the result.

    personally, aside from the OWF drama he created or added to for us, i had little reason to dislike him on an individual level. on the alliance level that like could not be translated into a continued part of our alliance.[/quote]

    So where is the notice for raiders to hit Kzoppistan, Alexander Proconsul, Regent whatever, and numerous others that did a far better job of wrecking whatever good will you were trying to accumulate during the past war than how Smurf was posting?

    Honestly, you all need to get your perspectives fixed.

  15. Legends of Cybernations

    in Open World RP

    Posted

    [quote name='Comrade General' timestamp='1322455722' post='2854252']
    GinoTheRoman
    Flashpoint
    Kommando

    A few lesser know names but where big names in their time on a smaller scale maybe
    [/quote]
    No offense, and I mean this. I understand that there are reasons why you want these guys' names out there.

    [i]But[/i], there are reasons why people don't name folks like Seerow, myself, Zhadum, Anthony, or TheBlitz in these kinds of lists. And it's because our accomplishments, while impactful in the communities we were in, simply weren't all that relevant on the larger stage, which is what this question of Legends is about.

    So...meaningful? Yeah, sure. But Legends of CN?

    Not by a long shot.

  16. Legion and the ethics of loyalty

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    Posted

    [quote name='Lincongrad' timestamp='1322453760' post='2854234']
    Not sure what can be done besides just leaving it alone. Regent Pancras thought about posting a retraction or something, but decided that the damage had been done.

    I don't know what it is.... Legion members just seem to have a 'special' relationship with the Big Boards. We're very aware of this internally.
    [/quote]
    Oh please. Scapegoating is what got you all into this embarrassing position in the first place.

    You already know it wasn't just Regent who overreacted. Also Im taking particular note of the fact that you didnt imply that a straight up apology was on the table.

  17. Legends of Cybernations

    in Open World RP

    Posted · Edited by TehChron

    [quote name='Feanor Noldorin' timestamp='1322429117' post='2853995']
    Dilber, Archon and Sponge are my top3. I'm unsure where to put Ivan since I wasn't here when he was in power.
    [/quote]
    Basically Ivan is an individual whose strength is the ability to get the best stuff possible out of any possible situation. If you don't actively block everything he tries to do, he will wind up destroying you.

    Only reason why he hasnt been all that relevant lately is because people just plain fear his potential influence due to his sheer level of infamy.

    Perhaps the single biggest examples of just how much of a boss Ivan was are the [i]Oath[/i] and his single-handed destruction of the Independence Council. The first of which took massive balls and intimidation to force through the ODN of that era, and the second of which people to this day [i]still[/i] aren't sure how he managed to pull it off.

    If you all don't mind me saying, in terms you can put into perspective, Ivan, at full power, is the best of all of those three you just mentioned. Only slightly less skilled a diplomat than Dilber, slightly less verbose than Archon, and slightly less driven than Sponge. But Ivan's charisma back then outshines anything that has appeared in CN since, and he is, without a doubt, the single greatest strategist in CN history.

    Don't believe me? Play him in a Supremacy1914 game, and see what happens.

    So yeah, Ivan's #1 in my mind. He's done things with this community that no one has ever been able to match, and created institutions that took years and the coordinated efforts of multitudes to undo. Don't get me wrong, what Dilber and Sponge and Archon managed were fantastic all on their own, but until Karma, everyone in Cybernations was still playing in Ivan's sandbox.

  18. Legion and the ethics of loyalty

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    Posted

    [quote name='Muddog' timestamp='1322357256' post='2853075']
    I have to agree with a member of Deinos? I'm interested to see if they follow the same pattern for the other nations that posted and shredded the PR capital legion had.
    [/quote]
    The problem is that if they did that, they'd apparently wind up gutting their government.

  19. A new Declaration from The Order of the Paradox

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    Posted

    [quote name='AlmightyGrub' timestamp='1322342449' post='2852856']
    Good Morning TOP. It is a beautiful day. I am not sure why it took you so long, it seems you could have done this a long time ago when most of you where actually in our range.... Your lack of courage cost you true revenge.


    Good Luck, Have Fun and Die.
    [/quote]
    What's amusing about that implication is that it's your alliance's nations that fell behind.

    So if that's the case, is it truly their lack of courage that lead to this result? It's not as if TOP hasn't given the New Polar Order a chance to build itself up for this fight that it knew was coming, eventually.

  21. Declaration of Support

    in Alliance Announcements (IC)

    Posted · Edited by TehChron

    [quote name='Lincongrad' timestamp='1322305214' post='2852305']
    Wait wait wait, I got this...

    So to fix our PR fallout from this thread I should apologize for our government's reactions, right? Right?

    The apologies of the government for the actions of our members deeply disgust me. Immediate dissociation comes across too strongly. Words fail me. I've rarely been more shocked. Think of the children! WHEN WILL THE APOLOGIES END?!?!

    Don't worry, bro, I got this covered. Situation contained.
    [/quote]
    Where's the apology for publicly begging raiders to hit a member that resigned after making a silly thread?

    Get out.

    Seriously. You should be embarrassed that your government members literally tripped over themselves to throw Smurf under the bus over this.

  22. Declaration of Support

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    Posted

    [quote name='suryanto tan' timestamp='1322304609' post='2852298']
    I have no idea why ones would announce that their ex-members is free for others to attack.

    If you want to discipline your own member, you better do it yourselves. You should not let the 25 nukes in his possession scared you off.

    If you worry that the Legion will get attacked because of his post, well, you need to grow some balls. Your dearest ally in NpO is under attacks, offering a statement of support is the least you can do if you cannot afford to offer military/finance assistance.
    [/quote]
    What makes that statement ironic is that it was due to Polars aid shoring up their lackluster warchests at the lower levels that allowed the Legion to hold out against us after the first two rounds finished up.

    Just thought Id put that out there for people to chew on.

  24. Declaration of Support

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    Posted

    [quote name='Regent Pancras' timestamp='1322303218' post='2852275']
    Just to confirm, Unknown Smurf has resigned from The Legion, however his AA hasn't been updated yet. He is no longer afforded the protection of The Legion though, so if any tech raiders out there want some of his 5,542.54 technology, his nation can be found [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=260793"]HERE[/url].

    As far as The Legion is concerned, this matter is closed.
    [/quote]
    [i]sigh[/i]

    Now that's just lame on your part. One should generally save real pettiness like that to private channels rather than openly drawing attention to just how hurt your feelings are. Well, whatever.

    Seriously low on your part.

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