Rayvon

No ones pretending no one else does. However, there are no existing treaties with anyone else whom they feel treat them second rate - therefore no need to call attention to or cancel other said treaties. Unless you want them to publicly declare a list of alliances whom shouldn't even bother attempting relations. Then I'm sure you could be presented a more complete list.

Get over it. Your thunder was stolen. It's just a treaty cancellation. Nothing to lose sleep over not getting to announce first.

Green will stand united. There's just some outside factors that have to be separated. Without you around, Green has nothing to fear internally.

Indeed. And don't expect the big lady to sit back down anytime soon .. She's got a lot of song still left in her

A just reasoning. Ordo Verde supports her friends and allies in the Viridian Entente and will standby at all times and costs. o/ Viridia

Be a short string. Including the TORN treaty and UJA, we've only signed 6. I second this. I was gonna, but my deputy (King Alexander) and our MoIA (Mr Duffy) already beat me to it - and quite well. Cheesy But it made me smirk. Anything I could have wanted to say, has already been said by my fellow Gov in Ordo and also by TORN Gov. Our paths are varying, our papers no longer reflected this. The longtime friendship and respect still stands however. Still love ya MommaWoody

This. Yes your free to ask, but we're free to say 'Too bad, you don't need details. Situation is done.' Also agreed. This ended in an apology. Not war. This is the most important point. Your pushing is just a futile effort to re-hash the feelings. It won't work. You should favour OV dammit - forget VE and INT

He doesn't deserve, nor does the situation warrant, a full and complete response to him. Your allies wish this situation remain quiet as possible.

Congrats. You've rooted it all out. Although - even Sunstars post there is full of holes (mostly on purpose for the sake of OPSEC - but also because they failed to read a lot of what is in black and white in front of them). Either way. The issue is dead. It's resolved. Your attempts to re-hash this !@#$%^&* is nothing short of .... Well... Expected ... From the likes of you. E: The request that Ordo Verde members remain cordial towards ODN/INT/Craig still also remains in effect.

What would you like to try again? Your timeline/facts are both wrong and incomplete. So - let's try that again.

Didn't know you couldn't read either. Cornelius' post went entirely ignored a few pages back from your "posts" ... Your knowledge is correct. Infuriates me too. That's why I left Really tho .. VE

Glad to see this finally come to an end. Any members of Ordo Verde wishing to post here, keep it cordial or you'll be dealing with me at home. E: Bite me Corn

Vox hardly counts as it's already expected regardless the topic of the thread, oh self-righteous one.

Very true ... My bad

And not a single word of GGA's internal business was mentioned till Dephire did it on page 6.

You were around to see what happened last time someone had such a mistake thought.

Spies are becoming more and more troublesome. This is true. OPSEC needs to be guarded at all costs these days. The SS's are an atrocious act, and I for one look forward to all the moles being dug out. It's one thing to chase them down for any incompetence, but to flame them for protecting sensitive information when they know you have eyes in that particular area - that's just funny.

Agreed. I've signed several myself, I've never been present in any of my protectorates government channels. We made seperate joint-gov channels for such situations. As I understand, it is the norm.

No - they were trying to embarrass IRON

Well spoken. As MoFO of Ordo Verde, I've reviewed our paths and treaties from all different views. And we constantly discuss this. Some paths lead us further from some allies and closer to others, some away from all them altogether, and some just completely off the wall. This is what leadership does. They discuss all possibilities to determine what may be the best for the alliance as a whole - not for their PR, their own personal gain or anyone else's agenda.

That would require free thought.

He knows far better than you, little one. Step up to the leadership level sometime, see how things really are in this little world of ours. You'll be quite disappointed in the treatment of Shane.

There's a difference between foolhardy and fear.

Atleast he's not afraid to use his own mind, and think his own thoughts.

Sounds similiar to another incident from about a year or so ago involving NPO/GGA and ummm .. Let me think ... Who was it? lol - take a look at the new forum. I've been redoing the graphics btw - answer your damn msn once in a while haha