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  1. Just now, Kapleo said:

    Read my previous comment, rinse and repeat until the message gets in your mostly empty head.

     

    How about you read mine? Do I need to spell it out for you? It's not 'just FL'. CLAWS clearly displayed its disregard for AA and Bundy. You came close to losing the treaty during the war, and maybe you will now that the war is over. But even if the treaty remains, Bundy and Alex are not going to forget the absolute disregard for their alliance's interests that you displayed at various points during the conflict. Character is shown when there are tough choices to be made. NG made clear they're loyal allies to TW. CLAWS made clear that they just don't care all that much.

  2. Just now, Kapleo said:

    Our latest government meeting showed overwhelming appreciation towards The Wolves. If what you say is true and TW doesn't feel the same about us, perhaps it's something Bundy's government should bring up privately so we can either work it out or be done with it, but since this is coming from you I'll just water it down to FL just being his usual ass.

     

    If you really think I'm the only one angry about the way CLAWS treated TW during this whole ordeal then you are very, very bad at reading the room. Don't pretend everything is just fine. Bundy and AA are not going to forget the way that your alliance treated them.

  3. Winners & Losers:

    Winners: 

    TW - Picked a fight with a much bigger alliance and won. 3-0 against UCR. Some pretty amazing feats, including a multi-month stagger on several Commies, and stabilizing control over UCR's entire lower tier so well that Bundy was able to reach up and drag Marx and a few others down to deliver beatdowns to them, too.

     

    Non Grata - Further solidified their reputation as a loyal ally. While TW's other ally did nothing to help, and in fact actively plotted about how to use the situation in a way that was disadvantageous to TW, Non Grata stood loyally by her ally.

     

    Red Rebel - Showed about as much heart as anybody on UCR's side; attacked repeatedly even as he was running out of cash; a consistently fun opponent.

     

    GATO - GATO showed more life than they have in at least the last year or two. It was impressive to see multiple coordinated declares on Mongols, and I think I even saw your aid use percentage spike into the double-digits for a day or two.

     

     

    Losers:
    Marx - Declared war on TW for a third time. Lost to TW for a third time. Threatened permanent war, then ended up largely turtling as he got his ass kicked.

     

    UCR - Declared war with every advantage in the books, and got dismantled piece-by-piece by TW.

     

    CLAWS - Trashed its relationship with TW (pretty "meh" about that relationship, eh?) and didn't even get the war against Non Grata they desperately wanted. 

     

    PGS - The memes about declaring war on Mongols and immediately sending your alliance into peace mode will live for years to come. The trap didn't work. Embarrassing.

     

    Sadcat - All that trash talk and what did we see from you at the end of the day? Nothing.

     

    Wobblies - Took probably the longest stagger in the history of CN for an alliance that had more members than its opponents. Largely hid at low-NS to try to outcompete nations with fewer wonders, and turtled when fighting opponents with full wonders to try to make his stats look better than they were.

  4. 47 minutes ago, Jason8 said:

    As this conflict draws to a close, it serves as a stark reminder of the intricacies and complexities that define the path to peace, and the unyielding spirit of those who champion it.

     

    As we learned the night war was declared on the Mongols, few champion peace as much as PGSG. Sending a third of your alliance into peace mode rather than fighting the five man AA you had declared on is proof enough of that.

     

    13 minutes ago, Sarkin said:

    with The Wolves getting to indulge in some sustained combat and the commies getting to settle a grudge.

     

    I wouldn't call UCR losing for the third time in a row "settl[ing] a grudge".

     

    @mrmarx what happened to never agreeing to peace terms with UCR? @Wobblies what happened to all those terms you were going to impose on us? Looks like it was us dictating terms after all.

     

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    Anyway, good luck to everyone in their rebuilding. The worst thing that can happen after a war these days is for people to use the damage as an excuse to head out the door. Don't! No matter how much damage your nation took, you can bounce back. 

     

    You could really just convey this to UCR privately, tbh. 

  5. 55 minutes ago, Johnny Apocalypse said:

     

    Aiding Mongols whom TW (your AA) are not allied to while sigs are being gathered for this treaty? Yeah, that's not bait for an obvious escalatory trap is it? 🙄

     

    You do realize I had no info about any peace agreement, right? Like, I found out about it at 10:25 a.m. and it was posted at 11:16 a.m. lmao. Who cares if we're allied - we're literally fighting the same alliance; why wouldn't I aid them?


    Everybody's been aiding everybody. Hell, I've even been aiding alliances that would have ended up opposite to me had this expanded.

     

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    Now it's your turn; do tell me about this other trap for which you've posted that meme at least once already. Our allies get attacked so it's some kind of demented 4D Chess move by Oculus to bait......someone into a losing war, or something?

     

    If you don't know what the trap was, you have no business discussing the broader politics of this war on the OWF.

     

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    If you're going to try and spin a narrative at least make it slightly plausible. The only part that makes sense there is the confusion that NG would hit UCR in the first place, legit didn't expect that.

     

    I'm surprised that move caught you so off-guard. It should have been one of the more predicable outcomes.

  6. 13 minutes ago, Malic said:

    I'm just a soldier, I follow orders and ask very little. I'd rather not pull through these absurd attempts at wit, from the witless. Its a rather convoluted process really... "alliance X triggers article Y thus enabling action Z". I don't care, my wants are few in this shrinking world. So does this create the conditions whereby, at some point we get to nuke PGSG?

     

    I am not NG gov, I will probably get yelled at for posting but im a soldier we get yelled at all the time I've got thick skin. If someone could answer my humble question with a succinct "yes" or "no" I would appreciate it. I suspect the answer is yes but I cant be bothered with the mental gymnastics to figure it out, to many shenanigans. 

     

    P.S. Hails and all the expected grats to those now on NG side. I will fight to ZI to defend you if my alliance orders it. 

     

    Yes.

  7. 1 minute ago, Franz Ferdinand said:

    Although Old Guard apparently has an active treaty with UCR:

     

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    I'm not sure what that has to do with my point.

     

    As I said - UCR declared war on TW, was defeated on the battlefield despite outnumbering TW, and refuses to accept a fair peace offer - instead demanding TW surrender (despite, again, TW clearly having won this war.) 

     

    We all know what's going on here, and while I know playing dumb is kind of your thing, nobody's buying it.

  8. 5 minutes ago, Jason8 said:

    Ah, so the target isn't PGS, it's UCR.  Time to activate that other treaty you posted today to attack UCR in defense of MONGOLS?  And this will keep OG from entering in defense of UCR.

     

    The game of tic tac toe in the sand continues.

     

    No "defense" of UCR is necessary.

     

    They're the ones who declared war on TW and they're the ones refusing a fair peace offer despite losing to TW.

     

     

  9. 24 minutes ago, lilweirdward said:

    On this, the eve of nothing notable in particular, I thought it would be a good time to update statistics once again. The last update was 8/21, so the changes are fairly significant this time around.

     

     

    Alliance Name Active Nations Nation Strength Damage Dealt Damage Received Offensive Wars Defensive Wars Nukes Per Active Nation
    Libertarian Socialist Federation 3 25,517 (-29,871) 195,133.35 (+38,671.91) 163,493.90 (+30,055.83) 27 (+6) 21 (+4) 5 (+9.3333)
    Union Of Communist Republics 16 (-1) 500,485 (-231,363) 969,745.52 (+203,816.35) 1,109,127.36 (+319,609) 76 (+8) 159 (+61) 12 (-4.0588)
    Socialist Workers Front 2 90,091 (-29,042) 78,968.27 (+24,148.78) 105,827.81 (+28,348.57) 1 15 (+1) 12.5
    COMECON 2 (-1) 10,771 (+3,447) 3,333.98 11,665.18 (+1,046.97) 0 5 (+1) 0
    Global Alliance And Treaty Organization 26 6,423,063 106,732.64 99,954.40 6 0 36.4615
    Post Grunge Supergroup 48 3,084,385 33,663.63 72,353.65 8 2 17.2708
    The Wolves 8 (-6) 181,456 (-166,971) 1,207,821.71 (+196,767.83) 1,146,882.81 (+166,338.73) 167 (+33) 103 (+13) 10.375 (+0.2321)
    MONGOLS 5 451,550 265,838.01 179,851.21 8 13 5.4
    Non Grata 84 6,631,349 88,762.58 60,843.37 28 2 21.7024

     

    With the war having expanded so much since the last update, my framework for presenting stats is starting to fall apart a little bit. If this war continues in this state (or expands even further) for much longer, I may look into restructuring the layout so it includes more information that reflects the nature of the war better, particularly the two-sided nature with TW vs. RED ALERT being considered separate to the conflict that evolved from the MONGOLS raid.

     

    These stats are pretty amazing.

     

    TW now has more than double the number of offensive declarations, despite being less than half the size of their opponents.

     

    Continuing to out-damage the commies as well despite, as sadcat pointed out, the mechanics should dictate otherwise. After all, "a nation can nuke all of their opponents but only be nuked once."

     

  10. 22 hours ago, cobwebbyarc6 said:

    3* Three are in the top 25. You're on loan.

     

    "technically I've only been a member of two alliances...I am not a member of TW >_>"

     

    Still in TW, so it's 4 for now. 😀

     

    2 hours ago, shwampy said:

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    It's ironic, because Bundy is far more blood thirsty than I am. Also, why would TW surrender when we've clearly defeated UCR? That makes no sense.

     

     

    1 hour ago, Wobblies said:

    100%

     

    The guy who's been staggered for 3 months and has resulted to cowering at low NS for months hopping on to re-affirm that his alliance is indeed winning. El oh el.

     

     

     

    48 minutes ago, AL Bundy said:

    Shotty work..... hahaha

     

    FL is a lot of things, good and not so good but no one pulling Bundy's strings and everyone knows that! 

     

    Now I know for a fact UCR has a hand up their ass... they are defiantly a puppet. 

     

    Al

     

    Imagine being Marx and having a bunch of broke members that you let get absolutely steamrolled with no ability to rebuild, all so PGS can try to start a global lmao. Dude got played and I still don't know if he realizes it.

     

    To confirm though - we're all very happy with Bundy's leadership. Even if I had been in charge and with the benefit of hindsight, I wouldn't change a thing. He led a small group in their total methodical defeat of an alliance three times our size. We crushed the lower tier, then reached up and started grabbing commies and dragging them down one by one. This has been one of the most fun wars I've ever been a part of.

     

  11. 1 hour ago, Sabcat said:

    There's nothing mocking about it. You're getting smashed and you've had to get NG in to bail you out. Whatever happens from now on, that's who you are, that's what wolves are. All mouth, no trousers begging for help because you bit off more than you can chew. It's pathetic. 

     

    Someone hasn't been paying attention to @lilweirdward's stats.

     

    Whatever helps you sleep at night though, I guess. By the way - you're at 1 win and 5 losses since re-entering the war. So much for all that trash talk.

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