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  4. Blocking Touchdowns

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    6 minutes ago, Sabcat said:

    I'll humour you with a reply, apart from James - who I imagine will get as bored with you as I did- you haven't got a single nation that can hit anyone over about 35k ns. Piley could rebuy infra away from your staggers at the end of this round, he's not stuck with you, you're stuck with him. You only have 2 nations that could buy up to attack him and you'd both get smashed up. Again. You're clutching at irrelevant straws. I get it, I did the same for the 4 months of the LSF /NoR war. I see you. 

     

     

    UCR doesn't have any nations below 50k NS anymore. Anybody who pops their head out gets crushed. That's 3/4 of the alliance getting their asses kicked on a regular basis.

     

    UCR's leader is so inactive he didn't send aid for nearly a month.

     

    Many UCR nations are rotting away in peace mode. Few can afford to rebuild what was taken from them early in the war, and they aren't active enough to complete a rebuild anyways. 

     

    This war is over, and it's just a question of how long Marx wants his members to get crushed.

  5. Blocking Touchdowns

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    6 hours ago, SoloRocket said:

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    Trolling is usually more effective when it has some semblance of reality to it. We've been declaring wars at a 5-1 rate or more against your much larger ally for over a month.

     

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     Wouldn't take too much organising and the experience of putting that work in would also be beneficial for UCR, they've cruised this war so far, be good to see them set up proper staggers and cycling. 

     

    Again... this doesn't work when literally anybody can look up war stats and see UCR is not 'cruising', setting up staggers, or cycling. Piley hasn't left anarchy since June.

     

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    I think so, as you say, they don't scream "active alliance" and yet they've cruised to an easy win over Wolves, they've smashed them right up. 

     

    I have to emphasize again... everybody can see active war information. Everybody can see alliance size. Everybody can see that despite having a 3-1 advantage in members and a 10-1 advantage in tech, the commies are being staggered into oblivion and the fight is being beaten out of them. 

  6. Blocking Touchdowns

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    1 hour ago, mrmarx said:

    Everyone can shut up about precedent cause its clear none of you actually know what you are talking about. That other wolf also resigned, btw, so yall are crying about literally nothing. 

     

    You can't "resign to" an alliance. He surrendered to an alliance.

     

    The clear standard for years has been a surrender, not "hahaha I'm going back to PGSG and I reserve the right to start nuking you again whenever I feel like also you suck DEUCES." That's not even close to the spirit of what is expected.

     

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    Of course, because you are the agressor responsible for starting this war in the first place and you are also the leader of your alliance. Your false equivalence proves nothing except your own cluelessness.

     

    Incorrect. UCR attacked TW, not the other way around. Go back to when the animosity started and that was your fault too. Cute try though!

     

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    Its really cute he thinks he's getting another treaty after breaking the first two. UCR doesn't enter into treaties with rogues.

     

    Have you informed the vast majority of your alliance that they'll be permanently nuked and kept in a state of war while you sit there and don't even bother to send aid? I doubt they're thrilled to hear that you never intend for the war to end, given we've been staggering them for well over a month now.

  7. Blocking Touchdowns

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    Posted · Edited by firingline

    4 minutes ago, Sabcat said:

     I'm telling you now though, if we end up in this situation again in another couple of rounds where no one's in my range, I'll be leaving again and still won't be surrendering. 

     

    I'm telling you right now, you won't be.

     

    Edit: If you want to leave the war without personally surrendering, I suggest you talk to Commie gov about asking for peace terms at an alliance level. When the overall war ends, you can go back to PGS without individually surrendering.

  8. Blocking Touchdowns

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    Posted · Edited by firingline

    13 minutes ago, SoloRocket said:

     And Sabcat said bye and came back to PGS.

     

    Unfortunately for PGSG, that isn't how this works. Playing dumb won't save you here.


     

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    Good luck continuing to struggle fending off UCR & Allies, who are doing a magnificent job of bashing you up.

     

    You can continue to stick your head in the sand if you want, I suppose. We're outnumbered and still dismantling the Commies right now, even with all the aid PGSG can muster. Really seems to be on your mind a lot, too. 

  10. Blocking Touchdowns

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    4 hours ago, SoloRocket said:


    Well well well, it appears as though my screenshot was even more accurate than I thought possible.

     

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    Thankfully, FiringLine, you've rushed to your 'betters' as you seem to be in favour of calling them, and cry-begged Al Bundy into creating an OWF thread to defend your honour, which you don't seem to realise you lack.

     

    In conclusion, everything I said was true, everything you said was wrong, and you're still a loser.

     

    Go team.

     

    P.S. It's OK to admit you're wrong sometimes, and I await your apology you snivelling buffoon.
     

     

    See, I'm sure you can understand my confusion, since:

    1) he posted in the surrender thread, which is a super weird thing to do if you aren't surrendering, especially in the context of being told you must... surrender;

    2) it's an act of war to admit a member who is at war with another alliance. And certainly PGSG wouldn't do that in general, much less to a treaty partner of one of their allies!

     

    That being said - still crushing the Commies erry day.

  12. Blocking Touchdowns

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    Just now, Jason8 said:

    Let's break this down.

     

    1) Sabcat left LSF to rejoin PGS because there were no more Wolves nations in range that weren't hiding in peace mode.

    2) Al Bundy asked CLAWS to handle the dirty work to request a formal surrender from Sabcat

    3) Sabcat posted a resignation in the resignation/surrender thread, per CLAWS/TW request
    4) Al Bundy wasn't pleased about Sabcat's resignation and requested CLAWS to continue handling the dirty work

    5) masterhakai and I repeatedly stated that if Al had issues, our DMs were open

    6) Since The Wolves don't have any fighters left in range, they borrowed a nation from Non Grata to do the dirty work.

     

    I'll be the first to admit (as I have previously per the screenshots posted above this) that Sabcat's post was not a surrender in word nor spirit.  However, had The Wolves reached out to PGS Management before declaring war, this situation would have been avoided.

     

    Since I have declared war on the offending Wolves nation, I have opened talks with The Wolves, masterhakai and I have been discussing the issue via private channels.

     

    There is no such thing as "resigning" a war. You surrender to withdraw from a war. Just as was required of the TW nation who joined CLAWS. A surrender. That has been the standard for decades. It was clearly communicated that this was the expectation, including in the surrender thread itself by high gov of a mutual ally. A post that was ignored by Sabcat and, apparently, the rest of PGS gov.

     

    PGS then accepted a nation that was still at war with TW into their alliance - a clear violation of international norms and decades of precedent.

     

    When a Wolf continued the ongoing war with Sabcat - who even PGS gov admitted hadn't surrendered - PGS government immediately, with no conversation declared war on a member of The Wolves.

     

    You talk about avoiding the situation. The clear way to do this is to require a surrender before admitting a member at war into your alliance, and verifying that The Wolves accept the surrender. By admitting a member at war, and refusing to force him to issue an honest surrender even against the wishes of your ally, you made conflict inevitable. 

  14. Blocking Touchdowns

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    Posted · Edited by firingline

    Seems to be the sort of thing a halfway decent mutual ally would mediate.

     

    Hard to imagine an alliance allowing Ally A to harbor a nation at war with Ally B, let alone allow Ally A to directly attack Ally B for continuing that war. Seems to go against 15+ years of precedent!

  16. UCR Declaration of War

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    1 hour ago, Sabcat said:

    Yes. This is correct. I have surrendered.

     

    Yep. We know. You tried to get out of it, but at the end of the day, you were forced to tap out.

     

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    All that sitting around looking at the nations I'd fought in this war, like Firingline, languishing so far out of range with no money, no hope and no clue.

     

    Oh dear. It's delusional.

     

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    All I can do is send aid to UCR and LSF nations so at least my soldiers will add to someone's casualty numbers.

     

    Not sure if you'll be permitted to do this or not. (Common surrender terms include not sending aid to combatants.) But even if you do, it's only going to help us. We're dictating the flow of the battle and anything you send is just going to enable us to loot more from these schmucks.

     

    You're the second surrender in three days, though, so it may eventually get to the point where there are no people left for you to aid. Sad.

     

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    That is of course unless crowncoyboy can find his way out of PM where he's been hiding since May. I can help him directly with his casualties. 

     

    Someone doesn't understand what 'surrendered' means.

     

    I assure you part of you being permitted to rejoin PGS was that you can't rejoin this conflict. I'm sure your betters will be in contact with you over the coming days to reiterate that to you and explain to you the long-term consequences of surrendering and then re-entering the conflict.

     

     

  19. UCR Declaration of War

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    Posted · Edited by firingline

    2 hours ago, shwampy said:

    hmm, maybe next time ask ChatGPT to help you with constructing a few English sentences? Nice use of brackets though!

     

    Another day, another Commie surrender on the OWF, as @Sabcat surrenders to The Wolves.

     

    TW is declaring 19 offensive wars and receiving 2 defensive wars.

     

    Your dear leader is not sending any financial assistance to the commies we are fighting, who are increasingly running low on cash.

     

    @lilweirdward could we get a fresh set of stats at your convenience?

  21. UCR Declaration of War

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    5 hours ago, jerdge said:

    No, I couldn't misinterpret your point because I didn't interpret it in any way, in fact I didn't at all comment about our replied to your point.

    Much more simply: you had written of "useless stats", I asked to you "which stats [do] you consider useless and which (if any) [you consider] useful?" There's no way to ask my question in a simpler way and there's no way you could have missed its meaning.

     

    So now, yes, please explain: which stats do you consider useless and which (if any) do you consider useful? Thanks in advance.

     

    Don't take it personally. The Commies are mad they're losing despite holding a massive size advantage, so they're just lashing out at everybody.

  23. UCR Declaration of War

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    1 hour ago, AL Bundy said:

    CLAWS loves me.... I mean I am the W in CLAWS... What would CLAWS be without the W? CLAS, SLAC, SCAL, LACS... nothing hahaha. heck jazzy may have to correct me but I believe I am the one who suggest the CLAWS name :)

     

    O the history haha 

     

    Al

     

    Cadlore — 07/20/2023 7:09 PM

    I am not here to save our past.

    Lyanna — 07/20/2023 7:09 PM

    LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL OH NO
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