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Two high-quality alliances who enjoy target-rich environments. Seems like a natural fit.

Better off not being treatied to the alliance that defeated an entire bloc with 4x the number of members? What an interesting take.

The way CLAWS treated TW made it much easier than it otherwise would have been.

I understand what you're saying and understand why high-tier nations go without soldiers. That being said, there's plenty of tactical downsides to having no soldiers for the commies. For example, we were able to bleed Marx's entire warchest in 1v1's with defeat alerts. $6m per day is expensive. And it denies him the ability to do a significant portion of damage. Most wolves were fighting 1 on 3; he could easily take advantage. I think my casualty count this war (2 million per month) makes it clear that tactic isn't denying me any of what I want.

Good riddance.

As a wise man once said:

Ahh, the night we landed like 9 defeat alerts on the commies in 40 seconds.

Pay plaw what you owe him and I won't. Otherwise, see you soon.

Let me know if you need him hit

This aged well...

You seem mad. Is it because you and your friends always end up losing to me in the most embarrassing possible ways? I will always be better than you, SW. The sooner you accept that the better off you will be.

You were the one insisting TW would surrender to you. Your leader said there would be no peace at all. You bowed to our demands in the end, just like always.

We learned a lot about the spirit of socialism as you sat there and took defeat alerts day after day while causing no damage. I also find it quite interesting how much you and a few other nations hoarded their wealth as your comrades lost every penny they had. Spirit of socialism indeed.

I can't help but respond to the silly statements your FA department is making. Perhaps you should inform them that their job is to open embassies and chat with people and leave the real FA to you. That being said, it is quite refreshing to see CLAWS admit that we won. Quite the about-face from the most recent statement on the matter (from WC):

You missed the biggest one, where CLAWS was perfectly happy to try to maneuver for an expansion of the conflict in a way they believed would disadvantage the Wolves, all because they were hoping for a war on advantageous terms against Non Grata. They were perfectly happy to help the alliance that publicly declared TW would never receive peace; permanent war for their ally was something they were fine with as long as they could take a pot shot at NG.

Oh, believe me, TW gov has brought grievances to actual CLAWS gov privately already. I understand you may be out of the loop on that and maybe unaware that it's even been happening. That's why it's funny when you claim it's 'just FL being FL'. Perhaps you should refrain from speaking about things you're uninformed about. Whether TW cancels on CLAWS or not is up to them. But I can assure you their dissatisfaction has been conveyed to the appropriate parties within CLAWS.

Don't try to deflect the blame for your alliance's actions onto me. No matter my thoughts on CLAWS, that's not enough to move the needle on TW Gov's perception of you guys. You earned that with the decisions you made and the way your gov treated TW.

How about you read mine? Do I need to spell it out for you? It's not 'just FL'. CLAWS clearly displayed its disregard for AA and Bundy. You came close to losing the treaty during the war, and maybe you will now that the war is over. But even if the treaty remains, Bundy and Alex are not going to forget the absolute disregard for their alliance's interests that you displayed at various points during the conflict. Character is shown when there are tough choices to be made. NG made clear they're loyal allies to TW. CLAWS made clear that they just don't care all that much.

If you really think I'm the only one angry about the way CLAWS treated TW during this whole ordeal then you are very, very bad at reading the room. Don't pretend everything is just fine. Bundy and AA are not going to forget the way that your alliance treated them.

Winners & Losers: Winners: TW - Picked a fight with a much bigger alliance and won. 3-0 against UCR. Some pretty amazing feats, including a multi-month stagger on several Commies, and stabilizing control over UCR's entire lower tier so well that Bundy was able to reach up and drag Marx and a few others down to deliver beatdowns to them, too. Non Grata - Further solidified their reputation as a loyal ally. While TW's other ally did nothing to help, and in fact actively plotted about how to use the situation in a way that was disadvantageous to TW, Non Grata stood loyally by her ally. Red Rebel - Showed about as much heart as anybody on UCR's side; attacked repeatedly even as he was running out of cash; a consistently fun opponent. GATO - GATO showed more life than they have in at least the last year or two. It was impressive to see multiple coordinated declares on Mongols, and I think I even saw your aid use percentage spike into the double-digits for a day or two. Losers: Marx - Declared war on TW for a third time. Lost to TW for a third time. Threatened permanent war, then ended up largely turtling as he got his ass kicked. UCR - Declared war with every advantage in the books, and got dismantled piece-by-piece by TW. CLAWS - Trashed its relationship with TW (pretty "meh" about that relationship, eh?) and didn't even get the war against Non Grata they desperately wanted. PGS - The memes about declaring war on Mongols and immediately sending your alliance into peace mode will live for years to come. The trap didn't work. Embarrassing. Sadcat - All that trash talk and what did we see from you at the end of the day? Nothing. Wobblies - Took probably the longest stagger in the history of CN for an alliance that had more members than its opponents. Largely hid at low-NS to try to outcompete nations with fewer wonders, and turtled when fighting opponents with full wonders to try to make his stats look better than they were.

As we learned the night war was declared on the Mongols, few champion peace as much as PGSG. Sending a third of your alliance into peace mode rather than fighting the five man AA you had declared on is proof enough of that. I wouldn't call UCR losing for the third time in a row "settl[ing] a grudge". @mrmarx what happened to never agreeing to peace terms with UCR? @Wobblies what happened to all those terms you were going to impose on us? Looks like it was us dictating terms after all. You could really just convey this to UCR privately, tbh.

You do realize I had no info about any peace agreement, right? Like, I found out about it at 10:25 a.m. and it was posted at 11:16 a.m. lmao. Who cares if we're allied - we're literally fighting the same alliance; why wouldn't I aid them? Everybody's been aiding everybody. Hell, I've even been aiding alliances that would have ended up opposite to me had this expanded. If you don't know what the trap was, you have no business discussing the broader politics of this war on the OWF. I'm surprised that move caught you so off-guard. It should have been one of the more predicable outcomes.

...how would that be a trap? Everybody's been aiding their side of this since the beginning.

Sorry your trap didn't work.

The tech must flow!