Haflinger

They knew that three larger MCXA members had joined them. Unsurprisingly, they were happy to see experienced nation rulers with large nations joining their alliance. Most alliances are happy when this happens, even ones that are a lot bigger than USN. I think you can probably figure out from their posts in this thread that they weren't keen on being an alliance for rent though.

It is very difficult to make out the blue box text. Maybe if it was light grey or something.

lol goofs

You might want to check her alliance seniority date. Congratulations, Valhalla. You have certainly come a very long way since when I was a young Purple nation ruler baffled by all the infighting in Purple that always seemed to be between Legionnaires and ex-Legionnaires.

You could go to Red and enjoy the benevolent NPO's Revenge Doctrine. Go to peace mode unaligned. Join the Citadel Trading Company, perhaps. There are plenty of possibilities. Or, you could have done exactly what it appears you did: Start putting into effect the part of the alleged TSO plan where people were to disperse one or two a time to different alliances, and then get back together to re-form TSO. If this had gone on until April, I wonder how many alliances would have been affected. That whistleblower may have been doing you a favour, not everyone likes being treated as a revolving door.

You are letting down the spirit of Ted the Bug.

A fascinating remark. Here's a question for you: Were you and Arivili being loyal members of USN, the alliance which you "joined" on the way to TSO, by joining TSO?

Well that's about all. Maybe it used to be every 60?

Penguin has won the thread.

We'll be back ... someday. Lost another larger nation to a Pegasus member. Ah well.

Enthusiasm is good. Happy birthday, FEAR.

Very good.

It's obviously part of the campaign for Maroon unity.

Jerdge is, in fact...

It was my opinion while I was running an alliance that the very presence of a mutual pact (either defensive or offensive) removed the necessity for me to actually have to authorize the war. I authorized it with my signature to the treaty. I remember NPO and GOONS holding this same belief, as well as just about every other member of Initiative except TOP.Even so, you've pre-authorized the war declaration for certain people. If someone attacks your alliance's MDP partner, Joe Newbie isn't allowed to launch random wars against that alliance.It still has to go through your government. I would hope. It doesn't mean they will honor their treaty as well. Quite true. However, the time to criticize them is when an alliance decides not to honour a treaty. Any sovereign alliance can decide to violate a treaty; that's what sovereignty means.

Many alliances feel this way. However, all alliances are sovereign. There are mechanisms inside each alliance that must be followed before a declaration of war is issued. With Invicta, President Jorost must declare war; with NPO, Emperor Revenge must authorize the war; with the MHA, the triumvirate has to do it; and with TOP, the membership must vote on the matter. Just because a sovereign alliance has a mechanism whereby alliance wars must be authorized does not mean that they will not honour their treaties, though.

Everyone always needs tech. Well, Ted the Bug isn't in ODN anymore, so I suppose the other alliances stand a chance. Good luck to all participants.

Yay, we both outgrew TPF. Soon we will both be on the right side of the line.

Quite true. I'm struck by the remarkable similarity of this story to when Ephriam Grey left Invicta and setup Andromeda. Well, we're not Continuum, but we didn't declare war then. Perhaps we should have. It might have saved a few other alliances. But we didn't. You don't always have to declare war; there should be some purpose to a war.

They are in Pegasus, which is jointly protected by all of Poseidon (BAPS, Invicta, Legion, Nebula-X, OMFG, UPN and Valhalla) - so yes, sort of. Very good to see this. Just goes to show how good Purple is for growing new alliances these days.

I'm still unconvinced that Madmonkey actually has a spy ring. With that said, the first rule of interrogating a prisoner is to lie and cheat. Police do it all the time (OOC: IRL). So I wouldn't take anything said during a prisoner interrogation as being necessarily truthful. You're trying to get the prisoner to tell the truth, not inform or educate. Even given that, though, I can't imagine Moo lying about war plans in order to get the Monkey to tell him stuff. That just doesn't strike me as an effective technique in this case; you're trying to either intimidate or trick the suspect, not spin some saga that distracts from the central topic of conversation. In total: all this thread makes me do is think that the Monkey desperately craves attention. But it's still not nearly as much fail as Rebbilon. We must be bored.

Hi there. Let's gang up on it and pummel it to death. Race to 15?

Andromeda was created by former Invicta government members. Admittedly, not quite as many as he wanted to create it with.

Good luck to the MCXA. I've long had a fondness on my faraway rock for Gopher and Dr. Fresh, and Jimmy2e made a good impression on me yesterday. I've been through government exodus situations as well, although none on quite such a large scale - I hope that those who choose to continue to serve the members of MCXA meet with success.

With all due respect, I've heard this kind of thing before. Only time will tell if you really mean it, or if you are merely another Ephriam Grey. Well, not merely another. He just attempted to take the majority of our government; you actually did it.