Vladimir Stukov II

[quote name='Centurius' timestamp='1351975565' post='3048117'] He's fully in his right to have expectations of another alliance. Anyway you are all ridiculous, this is the kind of stuff leaders work out in private. [/quote] Who the hell are you?

[quote name='Brehon' timestamp='1351974240' post='3048104'] Do not start the "Unwanted Aggression" propaganda. It has no place here and I for one expect better out of TOP. Kestrel, there is never a time I require mediation. While I thank you for offering, IC and I will handle this. [/quote] Who the hell are you to expect anything of TOP? You are just the leader of a has been alliance. An alliance that is going to be rolled soon for stepping out of line.

[quote name='Branimir' timestamp='1349909551' post='3039612'] Emulating is a highest form of flattery after all, mein Emperor. Congratulations on the treaty. It seems a natural fit, at least to me. Cant say what maybe other people expected (or hoped), but I expected exactly this. Its cool beans two major alliances couldn't find any other theme, but our own for such a momentous occasion in their mutual relationship. Very nice. Hope all the best to you two. [/quote] Big shout out to NPO for hyping this treaty for the last month.

Dafuq has happened while I've been away?

Zeal starfox, he's a whiny moralist.

ZEAL EVERYONE

[quote name='Roadie' timestamp='1339856561' post='2985779'] Actually, it doesn't go back months. It goes back years, long before the MK/TOP treaty. The Toad King hissownself has even said he's always wanted to see BAPS burn. BAPS and MK were once closer than they are now and MK has hated BAPS since the day they stopped being close, which should serve as a lesson for anyone willing to learn it. If you don't burn with MK, they will hate you forever. It's not like the old tC days when people sling some mud toward your reputation for a while then get over over it, with MK the buttfurious is permanent. BAPS may have the opportunity to do something huge here. If DR backed a hit on MK or an expansion of the NoR/LSF war, the coalition of blocs required to keep your treaty partners in charge fights itself and the world comes crashing down on your heads. Either that or you sidestep it and MK hates you forever. Since neither is desirable, I'd suggest TOP take the initiative and go talk to them before they decide to take a BAP to dat ass. [/quote] Oh no! I guess we better go talk to our oldest ally before they decide to rolls us! Thank you for reminding us to contact IRON about this war, how could we forget?!

[quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1339817018' post='2985521'] >Not an actual thing. See BAPS-TOP exchange. [/quote] I can assure you everything is fine. [img]http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/images/07-minister.jpg[/img]

[quote name='Mogar' timestamp='1339816435' post='2985511'] going to ignore the tech from GPA? I believe there was other wars as well, unless you're doing only while you were in the alliance, in which case I have no idea how log you've been a member. [/quote] I think he was listing the alliances he was in. As for reps, who the F cares?

There is no support. It's a 1v1 showdown.

[quote name='Mogar' timestamp='1339813338' post='2985464'] You chose the winning side, but how long can you guys keep your camp together? you already made SF irrelevant in politics, the only people left to roll are allied to your hegemony, hence this current attempt to create multiple fronts and prevent it from crashing down around you, you seem to think I'm complaining about getting curbstomped, when I could give a $%&@, lost GW2/3, UjW, Karma, and this most recent war, losing just means you get more targets. [/quote] We didn't choose the winning side, us being on a side makes it the winning side.

[quote name='Mogar' timestamp='1339812827' post='2985453'] my point was fighting and losing once and then being given a lengthy period to rebuild is slightly different than what you're currently doing to SF, which is the same thing SG did to hegemony remnants and Hegemony did to league remnants, you can only beat on the same target so many times until eventually they dont have enough blood to fill the thirst of those in your camp. [/quote] Our bad for not sucking as bad at diplomacy as you.

[quote name='Mogar' timestamp='1339812318' post='2985446'] would you like to mention how long that war lasted, in comparison to recent conflicts? had you kept TOP at war for months, yeah, i would consider it a curbstomp, !@#$@#$ up a collection isnt much of a loss in comparison. [/quote] Mogar: "The BiPolar war lasted for one collection cycle."

[quote name='Mogar' timestamp='1339812318' post='2985446'] hard to do when you're getting rolled every 3 months, eh? I call out your AA for being leeches off the work of others, which they are, TOP's political talent is making sure they are only in wars as a token gesture to ensure they get reps, since the GPA war was mentioned already, I remember we weren't exactly impressed with TOP's showing.(admittedly it WAS hard to find open slots in all tiers for that war, and forcing them to keep it on nuclear made it nothing more than a glorified tech raid.) You're wrong about that, your presence would count, just not in the only tier your alliance has the ability to dominate, feelfree to rogue me when you get the chance, not like I haven't had former NoV, among others, do it to me before. [/quote] You mad that we reap all the benefits while doing no work?

[quote name='Mogar' timestamp='1339810468' post='2985417'] must have been difficult to fight all those ghost decelerations and curbstomps for years. [/quote] I don't know what your post has to do with anything. Almost every fight TOP gets in is a curbstomp because 99% of you suck.

[quote name='Mogar' timestamp='1339810216' post='2985404'] wait wait wait, so SF alliances having members go into peace mode = weakness, but TOP's lower tier going into peace mode = tactics, whathe$%&@amireading.jpeg [/quote] SF sucks at war and TOP is good at war. You can't criticize any of our tactics.

[quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1339810066' post='2985401'] Why are you calling an alliance in the sphere of your oldest ally irrelevant? Such moves will not be tolerated! [/quote] Don't worry about it, you're irrelevant.

Why are you guys arguing with an irrelevant alliance?

[quote name='Stonewall Jaxon' timestamp='1339800384' post='2985256'] That's the thing with MK followers on the OWF. I can never tell if they're playing dumb or if they're actually taking themselves seriously. [/quote] This is serious business. I am appalled that you would even suggest we are playing dumb.

[quote name='D34th' timestamp='1339756248' post='2984717'] I'm not implying anything, I'm just conjecturing a scenario based in FC's comment, but if you think I'm that wrong please, share with us the real plan behind this attack. [/quote] Maybe the real plan is to get XX and SF to enter the war since they are too scared to defend CSN.

[quote name='Starfox101' timestamp='1339640760' post='2982520'] So, you would blow one alliance up for it, and defend the other? Just making sure your crew finds it justified when it happens to GOONS. With great power comes great responsibility. Spider-Man 2. Badass movie. [/quote] With great power comes the responsibility to start wars since no one else will.